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toysupra1
12-19-2001, 12:38 PM
first, i'd like to thank the n/a owners for showing pics and giving information on parts.

it took me about 40 minutes to remove and install everything. came out flawless. the intake pipe from a v6 accord fit perfectly. it had 2 nipples for vacuum hoses, but one of the two was removed after trimming the pipe. my piping would have been longer if i had not shaved off a small piece at the end though. but the smaller piping benefited me because i was able to make a small bracket that came with the v6 piping and hold the intake down firmly so it wouldn't touch the car or any small piping underneath.

after i installed the piping, plugged the rear vacuum with a breather, and attached the front vacuum with an adaptor and onto the pipe, i started the engine. at first, the engine sounded like a vacuum. noticeably louder and sounded like it was sucking a lot of air.

took it for a test drive and gave it a few wide open throttles. it was noticeably louder from inside the car as well. the throttle felt smoother at the lower RPMs and you can really feel a difference once you go past 4000 RPMs. nothing major but a smoother feeling.

here are some pics...

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v2/5/40/60/27354060wXVyjmFNBb_ph.jpg

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v2/5/44/12/27354412CUqPsotafc_ph.jpg

and here's a link to my album of the intake parts if anyone is interested...

Intake Parts Pic (http://community.webshots.com/album/27330571uDJHhXpOPn)

i made a small video for anyone who is interested in what it sounds like.

money042
12-19-2001, 01:16 PM
very nice!

how much $ did it all cost, where did you get the filter?

thanks for the pics

toysupra1
12-19-2001, 01:25 PM
everything cost me about $200. i found that nopionline.com had the cheapest price for the apexi intake for the mkiii turbo. their price is ~$130 whereas everyone else sells it for around $150.

i got the filter in 3 days after ordering it because apexi usa's main office is in orange.

TRDSupraSE
12-19-2001, 03:40 PM
Looks good man!!:)

How is the quality of the APEXi Intake? I want to get an intake later on and still deciding on which one to get?
The only reason I'm waiting later to get it is because I want the Blitz Power Meter first to see what HP gains I'm actually getting:D

Does anyone know if the Blitz SUS intake is made also for the MKIII Turbo? Thanks

rwsupra.com
12-19-2001, 04:23 PM
I've got the Blitz intake on my NA. The car had it on there when I bought the car but I have put the stock airbox on to see the difference and the difference is huge. You will notice a change in lowend but the biggest above 3500rpm's. I'm going to change the piping with some muffler piping and then coating it with ceramic paint. I found this at www.socalsupras.com under articles. The guy who did this mod said that his design ran cooler than the AEM's and he noticed a small difference than with the AEM. He did it all with $25 for just the pipe. But back to the Blitz SUS Intake. It's great!!! Never gets clogged and it pretty cool. Stainless stell mesh. It's awesome!!!

toysupra1
12-19-2001, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by rw3
I've got the Blitz intake on my NA. The car had it on there when I bought the car but I have put the stock airbox on to see the difference and the difference is huge. You will notice a change in lowend but the biggest above 3500rpm's. I'm going to change the piping with some muffler piping and then coating it with ceramic paint. I found this at www.socalsupras.com under articles. The guy who did this mod said that his design ran cooler than the AEM's and he noticed a small difference than with the AEM. He did it all with $25 for just the pipe. But back to the Blitz SUS Intake. It's great!!! Never gets clogged and it pretty cool. Stainless stell mesh. It's awesome!!!

i love look of the blitz SUS intake. i might go with that later in the future.

rw3, was your car noticeably louder inside the car also? kind of like a low howl as you're going above 3500 RPMs?

rwsupra.com
12-20-2001, 11:50 AM
There is a howl. If you turn off the radio and put it in neutral and listen...you will hear a suction. I personally like the sound of it and it helps tremendously with performance. I haven't been able to hear or see an Apex in action but I've heard great things about those also.

*wishlist*supraTT
12-20-2001, 07:51 PM
lookin good toysupra1...

i've also got the blitz filter... i picked it because i like its looks... got it for 180 at toysport in gardena in case you're wondering...i wouldn't say that i noticed a big difference in performance but there is a difference... the power is more smooth throughout the rpm range and the power stays constant till redline... the noise is louder than stock after 5k rpms... and sometimes there's a little sucking air sound in the lower rpm's when driving... i have it on the stock piping...

rw3, is yours auto or 5-speed?

rwsupra.com
12-20-2001, 07:59 PM
I've got an auto and about ready to go turbo.....

toysupra1
12-20-2001, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by rw3
I've got an auto and about ready to go turbo.....

be sure to keep us updated on the progess.:)

rwsupra.com
12-21-2001, 12:33 PM
I'll keep you updated. I'm looking at doing it soon and if i don't have the time, the only time I'll have after that will be in the summer. So if not soon, the summer. It looks more like the summer though.

BlackSupra93
12-23-2001, 05:12 PM
hey man,
looks nice...i only did the intake so far...looking at the piping tho..can ya elaborate on how ya did it.. things i notice in ur pic. you have the apexi filter hooked to something or it looks that way by a metal bracket on the top left..if your in the front of the car looking at it. i noticed mine bumps around abit i dont have it held down at all..what'd u use? also. did u hafta cut the pipe shorter...put it inside the maf..or what>? and did u just cover up the other nipple? i think thats all for now...i need more info tho b4 i go slap a pipe on there....it'll probly add weight..i dont knwo if there is a perf. benefit with it and thats why i have yet to do it.((oh yea..and i just spend like 500 bucks on paintball stuff..but its a good way to take our aggression!:D )) ill have an exhaust on soon((MX i think)) and the piping if you guys reccommend it. best of luck to you. did you try it out yet with both the piping and the filter on? i forget , sorri if you already said. talk to everyone later
merry xmas.
Bob

toysupra1
12-23-2001, 09:49 PM
i'm not sure if the pipe adds any benefit to performance...but it does look a lot cleaner than the stock rubber arm. don't worry about weight, the pipe is extremely light.

believe it or not, the metal bracket came with the intake pipe (which is for a 94+ v6 accord). i just bent it into shape so it could help hold the intake in place. it worked perfectly. it keeps the filter in place and not bouncing around and hitting the small piping underneath.

yea, i trimmed the piping a little bit on the bottom end. look at the link to my intake pics (http://community.webshots.com/album/27330571uDJHhXpOPn). it will give you an idea and help explain why i trimmed the pipe.

on the second picture, look at the nipple right before the silicon hose connector. that vacuum hose is connected to the one on the left of the engine. i just used an adaptor and got a bigger hose and attached it onto the piping. again, look at my intake pics (http://community.webshots.com/album/27330571uDJHhXpOPn) for reference.

oh, and merry christmas to you and everyone else!

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BlackSupra93
12-24-2001, 03:47 PM
sounds good man
i looked at the pics quick and that'll help me if i go that route.

hey im starting a new thread called brake lockup ..please read it and tell me if any of you guys have experienced this. thanks!

mkivsoopra
01-09-2002, 10:32 AM
Hey toysupra1, where did you get the accord pipe? Does this look like it'll work: http://www.procarparts.com/store/displaydetails.cfm?pid=AI-acd96v6 ?

Thanks.

toysupra1
01-09-2002, 01:45 PM
i got my piping from www.nopionline.com. the brand is apc and it only came with the piping. that picture looks somewhat similar to mine, sans the filter. the box that it came with was labeled "94+ Accord V6."

here's a picture of mine for you to compare it to...

http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/3/14/82/27331482LQnTmOqTug_ph.jpg

speedracersupra
01-09-2002, 02:56 PM
wow thats the first time isaw a non turbo motor looks interstiing its missing stuff that my car has

mkivsoopra
01-09-2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by speedracersupra
wow thats the first time isaw a non turbo motor looks interstiing its missing stuff that my car has

like what... turbos? :p

toysupra1
01-09-2002, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by speedracersupra
wow thats the first time isaw a non turbo motor looks interstiing its missing stuff that my car has

very funny josh. go blow out a turbo or two.:p

10sec Dreams
01-10-2002, 07:29 AM
Any idea if that accord piping will work for a MKIII?

I'm getting few up with the stock accordian piping....its getting old and starting to crack, and I really don't wanna pay the dealer a few hundred for new restrictive piping. if I can pick up an accord intake for 45 bucks....that would be sweet

BTW: where did you get the silicon adapter hose? I haven't been able to find that stuff anywhere

toysupra1
01-10-2002, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by 10sec Dreams
Any idea if that accord piping will work for a MKIII?

I'm getting few up with the stock accordian piping....its getting old and starting to crack, and I really don't wanna pay the dealer a few hundred for new restrictive piping. if I can pick up an accord intake for 45 bucks....that would be sweet

BTW: where did you get the silicon adapter hose? I haven't been able to find that stuff anywhere

i have no idea if the accord piping will work for a mkiii. but if your engine bay is similar to the mkiv na, then you can probably mickey mouse it in. for your information, the pipe is 3in in diameter all the way through and the connector hoses are 3in length by 3in diameter.

are you talking about the blue silicon connector hoses in the pictures? if so, you can get those at a bunch of places. i got mine at www.xs-engineering.com because they're local to me. check out this thread, they discuss places where you can buy them in different sizes/colors.

http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19655&highlight=silicon

SupraDaddy_NA
01-11-2002, 02:58 PM
I've ordered the 96 V6 Injen Cold Air Intake System from a local performance shop, but it won't be in for a few more days. It comes with the piping, silicone hoseing, MAF adapter(HKS) and breather hoses for $205. I'll hit you guys up when it's installed, and with some flix.

vreaux728645
01-11-2002, 06:32 PM
Hey, you still have both Supras? Long time no see

suprafly79
01-12-2002, 06:50 AM
Hey can u post the part # for the pipe????

wonder if this is it Part Number : 948+1913 http://www.nopionline.com./partdetails.asp?ProductID=98751

toysupra1
01-12-2002, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by suprafly79
Hey can u post the part # for the pipe????

wonder if this is it Part Number : 948+1913 http://www.nopionline.com./partdetails.asp?ProductID=98751


thats the right part number for a 94+ v6 accord intake pipe. same exact one in my engine bay.

Soupskees
01-12-2002, 06:20 PM
got the intake for $120even this morning and put it in, looks nice i'm still not sure if i will buy the piping or not but yeah. Thanks for tellin me the MK3TT works on the MK4 NA's, i am goin to CMI import drags tomorrow so hopefully i will get something out of it. :D

93SUPRANA
01-13-2002, 06:54 PM
BEAUTIFUL...........This will be on my list !:)

suprafly79
01-14-2002, 06:22 AM
thanks.....So if I get this pipe, a mk111 turbo afm and a k&n fipk
it should all bolt right up......and add some hp gain....

Where did the hose from the vaccum nipple go....
was there a place to bolt up the bracket that hold the intake in place....or did u have to drill????

toysupra1
01-14-2002, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by suprafly79
thanks.....So if I get this pipe, a mk111 turbo afm and a k&n fipk
it should all bolt right up......and add some hp gain....

Where did the hose from the vaccum nipple go....
was there a place to bolt up the bracket that hold the intake in place....or did u have to drill????


sorry if you can't see the pictures right now. webshots seems to not let people link pictures anymore.

you will not need an MAF from a mkiii turbo. the mkiv na MAF is the same thing as the mkiii turbo MAF so you can scratch that off the list. you can go with the k&n fipk and piping if you'd like. the k&n fipk for a mkiii turbo will bolt on the mkiv na with no problems, with the exception of longer bolts which can be had at your local hardware store.

the hose from the vacuum hose nipple on the piping goes into the front of th engine block. look under your hood and search for a vacuum hose coming from the front of your engine on the passenger side. you'll know what i'm talking about once you find that vacuum hose.

as for the bracket, i made that bracket with some piece of metal that came with my piping. i used an existing hole to bolt it on and the other side is attached to the corner of the MAF. without holding the filter in place, it bounced around quite a bit.

suprafly79
01-14-2002, 09:19 AM
thanks alot toysupra1 for the info...

I asked about the mk111 afm because my brother
who owns a 90 mk111 turbo is upgrading to a lexus v8 afm
so i have his afm.....but if there's no difference i might as well just keep my afm on the car....

Red Dawg
01-26-2002, 09:21 AM
I finally put the new intake parts on the car. I have apexi
super intake filter with intake pipe from the accord V-6, hollowed the MAF. hooked everything up ! Looks good, sounds good and running great. Time to remove the EGR system and get the Apexi GT spec exhaust.