I just got a GSXR1000...

[2JZstang]

So I just took in a 2006 GSXR1000 with 5300 miles on a deal I did, and now own the bike clean and clear. I owe nothing on it.
It has:
Trac extended swingarm
AkraPovik full exhaust and header
35 shot of nitrous
frame sliders
and a bunch of other stuff that I'm not even sure.

I have never been big into bikes, but they have been kind of interesting me lately. I am thinking about taking a safety course and getting a license, but I am not sure about starting out on a 1000 and extended swingarm.
Would this be a bad idea?

Also, If I were to sell it, what would be my best option? Throw it up at a certain price complete? or put it back to stock, sell the bike, and part the rest?
Any help or advice you guys can give me would be great. I'll take some pictures over my lunch break for ya.
Thanks,

Dan

[2JZstang]

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[a10secstreetcar]

First Congrats!

Now, if you don't have a lot of experience please take the safety course and even then be very careful. Its the same with any bike, the bike only does what its told.

If your just looking to flip it you might as well keep the mods on It. With the bad economy it really isn't going to be easy selling it for a fair price. Grated you would be able to sell the parts by themselves faster. But in the end it will be the same amount.

My vote is to put it up for sale for $8000 and see what happens. BTW, she looks pretty clean!

Be safe and dont ride above your limits....

Kyle

[2JZstang]

Thanks for the advice!
Also, a couple other things. I was told it has a reverse shift pattern (like the road race bikes?).
And before anyone say it, yes, I DO know that it is missing the rear caliper, the extended brake line is on the way. haha
Dan

[ANORXIC'51]

In.

[S142JZkillaV10]

looks nice and clean

great buy

[dx3]

Good Lord, if you are an inexperienced rider a Gixxer 1000 with nitrous may not be a safe choice. When I had my 1000, I was in shock at how insanely fast it was, and I have been riding for about 15 years. Be careful on it man. Flip it and buy something more suited to your skill/confidence level. Nothing wrong with starting small...

Jonny

[2JZstang]

Oh I didn't go out and buy this with the intentions of it being a learning bike. It just happened to work its way into a deal I was in to make up for some income the guy didn't have. Lets just say that I came out on top by quite a bit.
Dan

[SW20]

I run GP/reverse shift on my GSX-R so its 1 up & 5 down. If interested in keeping the bike I would pull the swing-arm/Nawzzz & installed stock swing-arm. Then take a MSC & get your license. Learning to ride starting with a sport-bike usually is not a great idea but if you take time & respect it you should be ok. Get some gear & wear it also LOL

[fulanititoo]

I would not try to learn on a bike that size you could probably sell it for around 7k.

[turboking97]

congrats man

[Larrabee]

pull the swing arm and nitrous off keep it just take it easy! any newer bike weather it be a 600 or 1000cc bike can kill someone in a hurry.

[junkie414]

Why are you guys telling him to pull the arm off? If anything I would say that makes the bike safer for him to learn on. MUCH less prone to wheelie at every available chance. The 05/06 is an absolutly great bike, very easy to ride and if you got a great deal on it keep it and have fun. Yes you should go take the MSF course just to be safe, you really can learn a lot. At the current ride height/length that bike will be VERY easy to ride, also its motoGP style shifting. Makes up shifts much easier IMHO.

[QSMKIV]

Why are you guys telling him to pull the arm off? If anything I would say that makes the bike safer for him to learn on. MUCH less prone to wheelie at every available chance. The 05/06 is an absolutly great bike, very easy to ride and if you got a great deal on it keep it and have fun. Yes you should go take the MSF course just to be safe, you really can learn a lot. At the current ride height/length that bike will be VERY easy to ride, also its motoGP style shifting. Makes up shifts much easier IMHO.

Because it will ride/handle like shit. I'm not going to complain about the cc's of the bike but the way it is set up for a 1st time rider is dumb. I agree with Larrabee. Find a stock swingarm cheap and pull off the nitrous the way it should be. Learn throttle control, don't depend on a swingarm. Wheelie control is your right hand. Learn how to ride on a proper bike not a track bike. It wouldn't take much to make this bike right and you can keep these parts for later if you wish to play at the track.

[will175]

As other have said, pull the extended swing arm and sell it to make more money and put a stock one on. You could also sell the nitrous kit to make more money. I cant see anything else that is aftermarket that you have not listed other then levers, bar ends, and sliders. Unless he did internals. Oh and what PC does it have (III or V). And I dont mean this in a offensive way but a bike with an extended swing arm is not a bike that someone should be learning on. When they finally get on a "proper" street bike they will not be that comfortable. Still a nice bike OP, hope you get to keep it and enjoy it other then going straight,lol.

Like others have mentioned do the MSF (or what ever you guys call the safety course there) and do some track days with a good instructor. If you can hit the dirt. Dirt guys will make the best road racers. :-) No matter what have fun brotha and be safe.

[DirtyD916]

FFFFUUUU you are fuckin insane if you think about trying to ride this without experience. 600's for a noob is one thing, but a juiced 1000 is just a joke. If you really are serious about riding and want to keep the bike then take the intelligent and logical path. Don't ride it right away. Take the MSF course or its equivalent. Sell the nitrous lol. And please take it easy.

Other then that the bike is a gem dude. Congrats.

[DirtyD916]

Also if you dont like the reverse GP shift patten you can easily reverse it. Just loosen the shift linkage and place it on the opposite side of the transmission lever.

[zmydust]

Because it will ride/handle like shit. I'm not going to complain about the cc's of the bike but the way it is set up for a 1st time rider is dumb. I agree with Larrabee. Find a stock swingarm cheap and pull off the nitrous the way it should be. Learn throttle control, don't depend on a swingarm. Wheelie control is your right hand. Learn how to ride on a proper bike not a track bike. It wouldn't take much to make this bike right and you can keep these parts for later if you wish to play at the track.

To anyone on here that had owned both stretched and stock swing arm bikes its evident you have never spent much time on one. Handling isn't hugely affected, ride quality is actually better and it would be alot safer for him to learn on.

[Johnny Dangerously]

I rode on my buddy's gsxxr 1k in the parking lot one day and it scared the shit out of me...I barely blipped the throttle and the fucker just took off faster than my mind was prepared for.

A 600 is a great way to start things off..a 500 is even better..but a 1000 is just insane for a begginer. im a novice and yeah...1000 was wayy too much bike for me.

[FUZION84]

To anyone on here that had owned both stretched and stock swing arm bikes its evident you have never spent much time on one. Handling isn't hugely affected, ride quality is actually better and it would be alot safer for him to learn on.


I have had plenty of srtetched/non-stretched bikes. To start off i like non-stretched because you can get a feel for the bike natural reactions to certain things such as tight turns. You never pass a MC test with a lower stretched bike, it just cant turn as sharp as it needs to in/out th cones. Handling is affected but not to the extent that people are thinking.....With a 10" stretch i was still able to pick my front wheel up for about 30-60 ft @ 9-10-o-clock but it was just to unstable to fuck around with. With 200+whp any bike will come up with the right tire stretched.....Ride quality is no where as good as stock height.....its a bit tighter and bouncer if anything when pancaked.....from my experience.....I think op will love the bike stock height and stock wheel base.. Easy does it!!!!!!!

[will175]

For the guys saying that it does not affect handling that much...It is really hard for me to grasp that idea. I have rode a few stretched bikes in my time. And I have NEVER had a person come up into a turn with me on a stretched bike. But on the other side of it I could see if you are saying a person that is just starting of and riding a mildly stretched bike, it wont affect there corner seed that much.

But I can say that a few of the stretched bike I have rode are pretty damn comfy compared to a stock suspension street bike. But I just could not ride a stretched bike on the road. For drags, you just cant beat it.

[2JZstang]

Well I am putting it for sale as it sits and maybe go smaller. If it doesn't go for a price I want, I will put it back to stock and sell it or maybe ride it.
Thanks for the advice.

FYI, it's in the "other cars for sale" section if anyone is interested. ;)

Dan

[HiPsiSupra]

The bike can be a 250cc, 600cc or a 1000cc....shit it can be a fucking 3000cc.......IT WILL ONLY GO AS FAST AS YOU TWIST THE THROTTLE. I get so F'N tired of hearing ( OMG, you are learning on a 1000cc.....your gonna blah blah blah....), you people obviously never rode before.

As long as you have a good head on your shoulders you can learn on ANYTHING. You can just as easy kill yourself on a Kawi 250cc as you could on a 1300cc Busa.

Bike looks nice as hell, its up to you on what you do. My 06 GSXR1000 stretched and lowered with no power mods went 9.3 at 150mph, best bike i ever owned.....:p


Why are you guys telling him to pull the arm off? If anything I would say that makes the bike safer for him to learn on. MUCH less prone to wheelie at every available chance. The 05/06 is an absolutly great bike, very easy to ride and if you got a great deal on it keep it and have fun. Yes you should go take the MSF course just to be safe, you really can learn a lot. At the current ride height/length that bike will be VERY easy to ride, also its motoGP style shifting. Makes up shifts much easier IMHO.

QFT


To anyone on here that had owned both stretched and stock swing arm bikes its evident you have never spent much time on one. Handling isn't hugely affected, ride quality is actually better and it would be alot safer for him to learn on.

QTF

[QSMKIV]

As long as you have a good head on your shoulders you can learn on ANYTHING. You can just as easy kill yourself on a Kawi 250cc as you could on a 1300cc Busa.
Shit the worst accident I ever had was on a 50 cc pocket bike, fucking around my neighborhood racing my best friend. :) It's about respect for the bike (it will bite you regardless of size) and self control. Considering that most 600/750/1000's are about the same weight these days (not like back in the day), you just have to learn throttle control. I still wouldn't recommend a busa or zx14 to a newbie unless they were a VERY big guy. To each their own....

[2JZstang]

Well the last bike I had, which ironically enough I received as payment for another deal, was an 05 Hayabusa. I never rode that, nor wanted to. I just flipped it. haha
Dan

[Bad SP79R]

Finally somebody gets it right... The GSXR 1000 is a perfect bike for a beginner. Lightweight, small and affordable but yet can bring the mail when your skills develop.

[GoneSingle]

theyre fast bikes but swingarm makes me barf...sorry

[RussianMKIV]

extended swing arms = FTL

[ANORXIC'51]

Finally somebody gets it right... The GSXR 1000 is a perfect bike for a beginner. Lightweight, small and affordable but yet can bring the mail when your skills develop.

:wtflol:

This fuckin' guy....

[DirtyD916]

Saying that a 600 or a liter bike is good as a starter bike is just downright retarded. Yeah no shit the bike will only go as fast as you twist the throttle, but good riding habits and proper technique are much easier to learn on a small 250 rather then a 200hp 1000. If a car pulls out in front of a noob in traffic and he grabs a little too much throttle, a 250 will not flip over as opposed to a bike that has brakes that were developed for aggressive street and track riding. Same can be said for accidentally grabbing too much throttle, a 250 is not going to catapult you into a fucking pole. For every 1 person that has a success story on a liter bike there are 10 who don't : / . It takes time to develop the small muscles in your throttle wrist and be able to control them in panic situations. :gtfo:

[will175]

Dirty- I agree and disagree with what you said. I have never suggested to learn how to ride on the street on a 250 to anyone. Just because most people will be wanting to upgrade with in a few months. But I do suggest them to learn on a dirtbike and invest in a proper sportbike. Or pick up a SV or something along those lines as a first bike if they dont think they can handle a 600,750,1000 superbike. But I honestly think a 600 is pretty tame as long as you are not in the upper RPMs. Most sportbikes are pretty tame down below. I personally like 750 and 1000 because of the power band so Im not clicking up and down as much.

And its really not anything physical needed to lean how to ride bigger cc bikes. Its more mentally to control your self, wether its speeding, twisties, and panic situations. New riders which ever bike they are on NEED to learn how to look for bad situations and already thinking how they are going to react to them.

Dirty I like your pic bro. Where in the bay are you?

[zmydust]

The real issue with starting on a 1000 is the torque, in the middle of a turn or low speed manuever if you get on the gas it is ALOT easier to get into trouble

[RussianMKIV]

i cant speak for a 1000 as i hadnt ridden one yet but with my 600 there was nothing scary or difficult in figuring out how to ride it and be able to control it in panic situations. it doesnt have a bunch of torque down low unless you're in 1st gear, all you gotta do is keep it in the higher gears while learning and just keep adding throttle/gear as you get used to it.
but then again learning to drive/ride just comes naturally for me so go figure.

[will175]

Zmydust- I guess I can see how that might happen with a noob. But what I think causes the most problems is new riders will push way beyond there limit wether it be taking off, hauling in a straight line, and in the twisties. They truly need to take it slow and stay with in there limits and skill level, no matter what size bike. And brotha that is one sick pic in your sig.

Russian- Is that you tig'n in your sig?

[DirtyD916]

My "take it slow" approach to riding probably just comes from my history of starting. I started on a 600 and like Russia, naturally understood the fundamentals of riding. Now it wasn't me who ended up getting into trouble or crashing, but nearly everyone else that I knew who had decided to start on 600s as well. Lets just say that they were your typical 18 year old rice crowd who one day all decided to go and finance bikes with their older friends as co-signers. End result was alot of broken bikes, bones, egos, and credit scores.

Will: I'm in San Francisco right in 'new Chinatown' aka the Sunset district lol

[will175]

Dirty- LOL. When Im up there Im in the concord area. I should be back up there in a few weeks. Shitty thing I just sold my 08 R1. Get this though that is the kids first bike. I strongly advised him that he needs to take it slow since the bike is pretty far from stock and fully dyno tuned. Also it is geared -1/+2 so its pretty aggressive. He is a big boy (college wrestler) and has a pretty good head on his shoulders, so I hope he takes it slow. Wish I brought the bike up to Nor Cal I would of hit ya up. Oh well Ill buy another one very soon.lol.

[RussianMKIV]

Yup will, that's me welding one of the 30 intercoolers for group buy on another forum I'm on, I'm a fabricator by trade

[ANORXIC'51]

Ninja 250 newfag here.

My 2 first experiences of riding motorcycles were on modern 600s (GSX-R600 and CBR600RR). Had to do lot drills before they let me ride around on the street for a bit. I felt comfortable enough that I could have bought an SS as my first bike and been ok...if I had intended to strictly stay a street rider.

However, with less than 500 miles under my belt after MSF BRC, I've already done 2 track day beginner courses. I'm at under 700 miles now (I have limited riding time since I am home only 3-4 days per month), and hoping to be at my 3rd track day this coming Sat (if I can get back to MN in time).

At my 2nd track day, I found myself repeatedly catching up to and stalking groups of riders on 600s that had 2 YRS or more of street riding experience on their bikes...and I was chasing them down on a 250. Can you guess what they started on? They'd obviously pull away in the straights because 600 > 250. Slow in the corners, fast in the straights......VERY frustrating to a rider behind with a quicker pace where the only places you are allowed to pass in the beginner sessions are the 2 straights.

Once I move up to an SS next season and adapt to it on a closed course...it won't even be fair, because the confidence gained with corner speed and overall wringing the snot out of a small bike will pay dividends in the trasition to a more capable bike.

Point is, if you want to learn how to ride a sportbike the way it was intended to be ridden in the least amount of time, you start small (250/500/650), build a great base skill set, then move up and rape all the n00bs that started on 600s a year or more before you even sat on a bike.

If you are merely getting into bikes to look cool, pose at bike nights, and go fast in straight lines...start on whatever you think you can handle. 'Respect an inatimate object...blah, blah....right mindset on a racebike with mirrors & lights...blah, blah'.

[Steve Theodore]

Damn...you're doing it right ANORXIC'51! :bigthumb:

We're (me and wife) buying a 1992 Yamaha FZR600 as our first bike. It's literally the same price as a slightly newer Ninja 500 and offers us a better suspension and *MUCH* more braking power than the small Ninja's. After doing a lot of research and chatting with a lot of other riders we have determined that it should be a good (not the best) learner/starter bike for us, particularly since we'll be buying sport bikes as keepers later on.

We're just completing the second day of our MSF Novice class today though, so no celebrating just yet!! :)

[mkiv98]

it's no turbo busa but I'd say that nitrous'd literbike is a perfect starter

[will175]

ANORXIC'51-- Sounds like you are having fun. And much respect for going and doing track days. Its a blast no matter what your on. You should try and ride a Super Moto, talk about the look on Super Bike guys face when your on there ass in the turn ready to pass...LOL, Its classic. And I think the bug has got yah bro, sounds like you wont miss a track day while you are home.

One of the ++ with a 250 is there resale value is really good.


Russian- Thats sick man, if you dont mind me asking for what forum? Must be really fun.

[TonyN]

starting off on a liter bike is like putting a 16yr old in a viper for his first car, sure not everyone will die but your chances of getting injured goes up significantly. Also what are you looking for in a bike? The bike you got is geared for stright line, the extended swing arm is for stright line and really killed the handleing aspects of the bike.

Im not being a dick or trying to say something about you since I dont know you but from my 6+ years of riding, I have noticed the ones that has extended swingarms and nitrous dont know how to use the bike to its potential. A bone stock sportbike will do more then what 95% of the people who ride it can handle, all mods do it make it easier to ride. when riding my 636 ninja on the track, i had no problem passing guys with liter bikes.
You herd the saying that its the driver and not the car, well in the motorcycle world it is more evident, the rider is usually at fault and not the machine.

My advice, flip the bike. Buy a 600 if you must and take the correct steps to learning how to ride it, look at steve's thread he has going about the MSF course, there is plenty of useful information on the correct steps to get into the motorcycle world. When I first started riding I wish I had someone tell me about which steps I should take, and now looking back I do consider myself a "squid" when I first started. I advise to to avoid this, dont be a squid in the motorcycle world (ricer in the automotive world).

[2JZstang]

Already did, received the downpayment today. Thanks for all the different advice guys. If I still have bike fever next spring I'll pick up a 600 or something.
Dan

[RussianMKIV]

ANORXIC'51-- Sounds like you are having fun. And much respect for going and doing track days. Its a blast no matter what your on. You should try and ride a Super Moto, talk about the look on Super Bike guys face when your on there ass in the turn ready to pass...LOL, Its classic. And I think the bug has got yah bro, sounds like you wont miss a track day while you are home.

One of the ++ with a 250 is there resale value is really good.


Russian- Thats sick man, if you dont mind me asking for what forum? Must be really fun.

www.3si.org
its a side mount intercooler kit for 3000gt/stealths.

[ANORXIC'51]

ANORXIC'51-- Sounds like you are having fun. And much respect for going and doing track days. Its a blast no matter what your on. You should try and ride a Super Moto, talk about the look on Super Bike guys face when your on there ass in the turn ready to pass...LOL, Its classic. And I think the bug has got yah bro, sounds like you wont miss a track day while you are home.

One of the ++ with a 250 is there resale value is really good.


Russian- Thats sick man, if you dont mind me asking for what forum? Must be really fun.

Bug has me hook-line-sinker, man. :-) Went from basically saying I would never be on a bike up until Aug/Sept of last year, then realised that since I've stepped away from cars until the house is paid off, and knowing I won't have athleticism forever, I had better find a new hobby to keep my body and mind occupied and positively active.

Did a TON of research , weighed the risks, and decided to go for it. ONLY thing I regret is not getting into this much sooner...like at 5 yrs old, lol.

Agreed on the motard guys making the SS and SBK guys look absolutely silly. At my first track day, there was this older gentleman (had to be pushing 60) on a new Super Duke, I (and everyone else) learned to know where HE was on the track at all times to let him pass, because he was damn proficient on that thing. :-)

[jman7425]

Why are you guys telling him to pull the arm off? If anything I would say that makes the bike safer for him to learn on. MUCH less prone to wheelie at every available chance. The 05/06 is an absolutly great bike, very easy to ride and if you got a great deal on it keep it and have fun. Yes you should go take the MSF course just to be safe, you really can learn a lot. At the current ride height/length that bike will be VERY easy to ride, also its motoGP style shifting. Makes up shifts much easier IMHO.

yes, no wheelie also equals no turning.... stretching and/or lowering is horrible for any sort of leaning/turning action IMO...

[zmydust]

Jman, then like I said earlier in the thread, you haven't spent much time on a stretched bike. They turn FINE, they won't beat a stock bike around a road course but in no way will it impair a new riders turning abilities

[jman7425]

Jman, then like I said earlier in the thread, you haven't spent much time on a stretched bike. They turn FINE, they won't beat a stock bike around a road course but in no way will it impair a new riders turning abilities

youre right... from what ive heard (numerous 600rr.net threads, and professional track tuners will say so) , the turning is impaired (except on a gixxer forum where chrome and stretched swingarms are god)... a stretched swing arm is fine... as long as its not stupid long.. and not my cup of tea. how do you know it wont impair a new riders turning ability... most new riders are worried about how much to trust your tires when leaning let alone knowing the correct way to apex a turn or proper body english. a new rider could be using the bike all wrong, which would impair th shit out of any turning ability and then at that skill level, amplifying the effect due to the experience factor... most of the previous posters agree..

im just saying dude, everyone is different. im not a perfect rider... no one is, but i feel a stretched swingarm is 1. useless unless drag racing, and 2. it impaires turning. u cant say it doesnt, because it does... whether its huge, or slight, the bike was made with the swingarm the way it is for a reason. unless hes riding in straight lines all the time, then i dont see the point...

600rr threads:

learning suspension
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=38053

why not to lower your bike (mixed views)
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=196324

extended swingarm (more mixed opinions)
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=143908&highlight=extended+swingarm

dont want to sound like a dick but there are my opinions...

end rant

[zmydust]

That's just it, at the point where it would impair the turning abilities a new rider will never be
A new rider isn't going to be blazing through a series of turns at full lean angle. To an inexperienced rider the stretched swing arm will have no negative effects and will have the positive effect of reducing the chance off a wheelie.

The main ones on this thread claiming its such a bad thing are just like you, meaning they have little to no real world experience on the subject and are spouting off things theyhave heard or read. I race Ama in the sport street class and I have a cbr600rr stock length and a stretched hayabusa so my advice I'm giving is accurate and from real world experience.

[BusaKiller]

Bikes are built with short swing arms for a reason. As stated above, extended swing arms are for drag racing. Drag racing bikes are much lower and handle way different. If your going to learn, you might as well learn the correct way and ride it the factory built way. Look at it this way, would you learn how to drive a 1000hp car for the first time ever? It's the same with throttle control, but you don't have throttle control yet, you are new.

[zmydust]

That's a completely wrong comparison, I didn't say start on 400hp bike, we're talking swingarms. A more fair comparison wood be a car with a wheelie bar and stock power than what you're suggesting. With the exception off a few members, this is definitely the least knowledgeable section of sf.com

[jman7425]

That's just it, at the point where it would impair the turning abilities a new rider will never be
A new rider isn't going to be blazing through a series of turns at full lean angle. To an inexperienced rider the stretched swing arm will have no negative effects and will have the positive effect of reducing the chance off a wheelie.

The main ones on this thread claiming its such a bad thing are just like you, meaning they have little to no real world experience on the subject and are spouting off things theyhave heard or read. I race Ama in the sport street class and I have a cbr600rr stock length and a stretched hayabusa so my advice I'm giving is accurate and from real world experience.

ok, but it does impair it bro (a lot or a little, doesnt matter to me honestly). i rode my 600rr also, they are fun and i miss it lol. but idk man, stretched swingarms just dont seem logical at all unless drag racing... especially in his situation. it also seems to me that if he were to keep the swingarm, then go to a stock bike, that he would have to re learn throttle control, or atleast have the smarts not to treat it like before..

i just dont think a beginner should start on a stretched bike of any form. i think 99.99999999% of people should start on a regular bike, nothing special, so they understand its full capabilities as a stock bike.. even though like no one can ride it to its full potential..lol

[will175]

I think Zmy is trying to say that a extended swing arm would not have a huge impact on a "NEW" rider. And a lot of the people on bike forums are noobs or people that ride just to look good. There is a small percentage of guy/girls that actually have a lot of riding experience. I personally do not like extended swing arms at all and I always laugh inside when I see these guys that try to get in front of you before the twisties with extended swing arms....They have there place on the 1/4 mile, top speed, and shows. Extended swing arms have helped grow the motorcycle aftermarket industry in a different direction, which is good. More people to love 2 wheels.

[SnowRocker88]

Nice bike. Be careful on those things. If you're not use to the acceleration it can actually cause vertigo.

[jman7425]

I think Zmy is trying to say that a extended swing arm would not have a huge impact on a "NEW" rider. And a lot of the people on bike forums are noobs or people that ride just to look good. There is a small percentage of guy/girls that actually have a lot of riding experience. I personally do not like extended swing arms at all and I always laugh inside when I see these guys that try to get in front of you before the twisties with extended swing arms....They have there place on the 1/4 mile, top speed, and shows. Extended swing arms have helped grow the motorcycle aftermarket industry in a different direction, which is good. More people to love 2 wheels.

ah, maybe ive misread? :dunno: ill review the comments.. :o

[Mr. Wob]

The bike can be a 250cc, 600cc or a 1000cc....shit it can be a fucking 3000cc.......IT WILL ONLY GO AS FAST AS YOU TWIST THE THROTTLE. I get so F'N tired of hearing ( OMG, you are learning on a 1000cc.....your gonna blah blah blah....), you people obviously never rode before.


http://www.gifbin.com/bin/122009/1260528522_itcrowd-facepalm.gif


What you "can do" and what is smart to do are two different worlds. And how far you twist the throttle willingly is only 5% of the problem.

[HiPsiSupra]

My comments were to those people that have nothing more to say then (OMFG a 1K....rly....you CANT ride that for your first bike....blah blah blah :squintfin). Those people that probably never rode a day in their life.

I never said that anything bigger then a 600cc is a great starter bike. I started on a 2005 GSXR back on 2005 and step up to an 06 GSXR1000 at the beginning of 2006. Looking back now i wish i would have just gotten the 1K but it is what it is. I put my wife on a Kawi 250 for 1 week before she made me go down to the dealer and get her a GSXR 600, which she rode and loved for 2 years.

But Mr. Wob, i am gonna have to disagree with you this time. Throttle control is way more important and you know that since you ride(i think i saw u post somewhere), if you learn throttle control you can ride almost anything. And today's 600cc 750cc and 1000cc bikes are so close in size that you cant really use that as a reason.

So if you think throttle control is only 5% what the othe 96%???

[Boostin20v]

a stretched 1000 is a burn out monster. handle like garbage, but being able to twist it in 1st gear and not have the front wheel come up is a ride like no other.

[jman7425]

^^^ ^^^no no no, handles fine :) hahahaha I don't even care anymore.. It's a toss up. A slightly extended swing arm could help.. Idk. Preferences and opinions are useless to argue about. I just don't like extended swingarms. I don't think they are intended for the streets whatsoever.. However I respect anything done right, and treated right as Long as the user respects what he/she is riding... These things can kill ya! Lol

[BookEditar]

So if you think throttle control is only 5% what the othe 96%???

Lol, math.:freak:

He's talking about what you do with the throttle willingly. You can ride a 1000 like the biggest pussy and still get yourself into trouble with an unintentional throttle blip at the wrong time or bad downshift.

[ANORXIC'51]

My comments were to those people that have nothing more to say then (OMFG a 1K....rly....you CANT ride that for your first bike....blah blah blah :squintfin). Those people that probably never rode a day in their life.

I never said that anything bigger then a 600cc is a great starter bike. I started on a 2005 GSXR back on 2005 and step up to an 06 GSXR1000 at the beginning of 2006. Looking back now i wish i would have just gotten the 1K but it is what it is. I put my wife on a Kawi 250 for 1 week before she made me go down to the dealer and get her a GSXR 600, which she rode and loved for 2 years.

But Mr. Wob, i am gonna have to disagree with you this time. Throttle control is way more important and you know that since you ride(i think i saw u post somewhere), if you learn throttle control you can ride almost anything. And today's 600cc 750cc and 1000cc bikes are so close in size that you cant really use that as a reason.

So if you think throttle control is only 5% what the othe 96%???

Question: How can a brand new rider learn decent throttle control and build a solid base skill set if they spend the first 3-6-9+ months being scared of...oh, I'm sorry I mean "respecting"...the bike when the road throws them a succession of curves?

I'm not saying no one can't learn how to ride on an SS or SBK for their first bike, but guaranteed they are going to be a VERY crappy rider when it comes to using the bike for other than posing, trying to look cool, or going fast in straight lines/ mild sweepers.

I'm quite happy with the fact that I started on a 250 and by my second (well, actually by the end sessions of my first) track day I was catching up to and stalking riders on 600s that had 2 or more years of street riding experience. My first track day was done with less than 400 miles of on-bike experience after MSF BRC. Second one done at less than 500 miles. Pretty sure you can guess what they started on (HINT: SS)

To each their own. I'd rather learn how to flog the shit out of a slow bike first, build a very solid skill set, then move up. Next season isn't even going to be fair when I step up the next bike (D675....or 848).

Only way I'd give someone starting on an SS or SBK a remote chance at becoming a decent rider in the twisties (proper line selection-aka: NOT running over the centerline-, proper throttle control-NOT waiting until you are damn near out of the corner to roll on the throttle, proper body position-NOT looking like a pretzel all twisted over the bike or worse...sitting straight up on the seat at near-max lean angle, etc) or for that matter becoming a rider that isn't afraid of curves (CURVES, notthe bends/ sweepers on the interstate) would be is if they immedietely went to some sort of track school or advanced riding course (like Total Control) after learning the basic mechanics of riding.

But, the majority of people who buy SS/ SBKs as their first bike are more likely to spend their money on things to make their bike look cooler or go faster...instead of actually learning how to ride the thing. I've asked 5 friends that have been riding for at least 1-2 yrs if they wanted to join me at one of the track days I attended. Obviously buying a new exhaust/ tinted windscreen/ fender eliminator is much more rewarding to them.

Again, to each their own.

/rant.

[SupraTuner44]

Those dont look like nitrous bottles, they are co2 bottles from a paintball gun and they are connected to a drop forward which is also used for a paintball gun. Anyway nice bike. PM me if your selling it. I have a 2006 cbr 600 if you want to trade since your just starting out.

[2JZstang]

It is the Dynotune USA nitrous kit. I got a down payment on the bike, and she has until the end of the month to pay me the rest. I'll let you guys know if it falls through.
Dan

[RussianMKIV]

a chick with an gixxer 1k? :O

[SupraTuner44]

It is the Dynotune USA nitrous kit. I got a down payment on the bike, and she has until the end of the month to pay me the rest. I'll let you guys know if it falls through.
Dan

Alright cool. Let me know what happens with that.

[2JZstang]

Yeah, this is her third or fourth bike. Never owned a 1000 before though. She has ridden for years. And she is smokin hot, so thats a plus.
Dan

[RussianMKIV]

pics or ban!

[jman7425]

pics or ban!

+1!!!

sportbike riding chicks, and supra driving chicks are always a mother f***** win ha

[ANORXIC'51]

There is a girl like that on SBN. She used to ride a Repsol replica CBR1000RR.

Now she rocks an RC8.




http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/TD04u58dU1I/AAAAAAAAg7M/u2wSlbtAlds/s1600/img_9177.jpg

DEFINITE WIN.

[jman7425]

^^ yup. i know there are some girls on 600rr.net that are FINE.. i think there was a thread lol

[Mr. Wob]

My comments were to those people that have nothing more to say then (OMFG a 1K....rly....you CANT ride that for your first bike....blah blah blah :squintfin). Those people that probably never rode a day in their life.

I never said that anything bigger then a 600cc is a great starter bike. I started on a 2005 GSXR back on 2005 and step up to an 06 GSXR1000 at the beginning of 2006. Looking back now i wish i would have just gotten the 1K but it is what it is. I put my wife on a Kawi 250 for 1 week before she made me go down to the dealer and get her a GSXR 600, which she rode and loved for 2 years.

But Mr. Wob, i am gonna have to disagree with you this time. Throttle control is way more important and you know that since you ride(i think i saw u post somewhere), if you learn throttle control you can ride almost anything. And today's 600cc 750cc and 1000cc bikes are so close in size that you cant really use that as a reason.

So if you think throttle control is only 5% what the othe 96%???

I disagree with 96% of this post. Its not worth going back and worth on though.

[2JZstang]

She is my friend Ashley. She is a really cool chick. Can party, ride, has great taste in cars, tough girl, and a pool shark. I know she will take great care of the bike.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/rexd/ashley.jpg

[HiPsiSupra]

Lol, math.:freak:

He's talking about what you do with the throttle willingly. You can ride a 1000 like the biggest pussy and still get yourself into trouble with an unintentional throttle blip at the wrong time or bad downshift.


I disagree with 96% of this post. Its not worth going back and worth on though.

Didn't realize that all of Supraforums became the OT section, honest mistake with the numbers.

Thanx for taking the time to post completely pointless posts ....:gtfoslap:.

ANORXIC'51
I agree with everything you said. Again my post is being taking way more serious by people that i really wasn't talking to (aka people that ride).

But anyways, enough internet arguing.

2JZstang
Chick is hawt :yum:

[RussianMKIV]

noodz nao!

[Mr. Wob]

Didn't realize that all of Supraforums became the OT section, honest mistake with the numbers.

Thanx for taking the time to post completely pointless posts ....:gtfoslap:.

ANORXIC'51
I agree with everything you said. Again my post is being taking way more serious by people that i really wasn't talking to (aka people that ride).

But anyways, enough internet arguing.

2JZstang
Chick is hawt :yum:

Relax dude :lol: First, learn to take a joke. Second, not a pointless post. I was responding saying its not worth us going back on forth on this topic. I disagree in so many fundamental ways with your position, but its not worth the discussion. You are set in your ways clearly, and I am in mine. No point bickering about it and winding right back at Go.

[2JZstang]

Well after a lengthy and drawn out process, the bike is back up for sale. The nitrous is off the bike now though.
Selling it and all the stock parts for $7,000 plus shipping or picked up plus paypal fees if that is the desired route.
Thanks guys,

Dan

[Worm]

Nice bike! I'm glad I stayed out of this warzone for once. ;)