86.5-88 to 89+ bumper conversion guide.

**outofstep** · 01-02-2004 08:22 PM

I only thought to take pictures of this and make a guide like 3/4th of the way through, so you'll have to forgive me for not having begining pictures.

Everyone knows that the 89+ front bumpers are pimp juice. All the ladies want the guys with the freshened up style bumpers. So here is a short little guide for getting more girls.

The first thing you will want to do is remove the plastic under tray from the bumper. Unbolt three or four of the bolts toward the front of the wheel well. You Should now be able to get access to the bolts labeled 1 and 2.

To get to the bolts labeled 2 you need to unbolt the fog light assemblies. Then you can get to the bolts labeled 2.

The bolt groups 3 and 4 are easy to get to, need no explination.

You will also want to unbolt turn signals and grill, it just makes it easier to get to the bolt set labled 3.

There are only two "caveats" in bolting up the 89+ bumper. They will be covered in my replies so I can post the pictures up.

**outofstep** · 01-02-2004 08:26 PM

The bolting hardware in the location labeled 2 is longer than the holes in the bumper. Just trim the lip and you can mount the plate flush. The pic shows the lip trimmed already. You can see that the bar is about an inch longer than the bumper.

It mounts to the front support just fine once the lip is trimmed.

**outofstep** · 01-02-2004 08:35 PM

The hardware that mounts in location 1 may be broken. These are are hella old so pretty much plan on having something busted down there. The mounting hardware on my 89+ bumper was all busted up, so I swapped out with the hardware from my 88.

In the picture you can see that the 88 units are longer. Easy fix, just bend up the end and bend the top abit to match the top mounting bolt. Easy as pie.

**outofstep** · 01-02-2004 08:42 PM

Mounting up the new bumper is just the opposite of taking the old one off. I suggest mounting up location 2 first. That holds the whole thing up and lets you maneuver all the studs in location 3 into place and manuever location 1 into place.

Bolt both moldings and turn signals back into place. You're done.

You won't be able to reuse the fog lights, so just sell them. Same with the center grill. You also should have removed the stop lip becuase you'll be mounting up a new aftermarket lip.

Make sure you don't paint your new bumper. It looks great with your primmered black car. Paint is for pussies. Also you should have bolts left over. If you used all your bolts you did something wrong. Unbolt at least three to make up for using them all.

**SupraTrey** · 01-02-2004 09:34 PM

Nice Diagram... Very nice.

Trey

**SupraGuy88T** · 01-02-2004 11:54 PM

this is great cause I just got back from the salvage today from picking up an 89+ bumper to mod for my intercooler and was wondering about a few little things. thanks

Christian

str8jakett · 01-04-2004 12:11 PM

Originally posted by outofstep

Make sure you don't paint your new bumper. It looks great with your primmered black car. Paint is for pussies. Also you should have bolts left over. If you used all your bolts you did something wrong. Unbolt at least three to make up for using them all.

That's great! I drove around for 9 months with a white 89+ on a burgundy 87. Well, not really, cause two weeks after I installed the new bumper, it BHG'd me and I cracked the bumper while getting it on a trailer. But now it's replaced and I pussyfied and painted the whole damn thing!

**SuprAng** · 01-04-2004 12:57 PM

haahhahahahahahhahahahahha

honestly when i was putting on my 3rd front end, like 90% of the bolts just snapped, i tried tapping them but it didnt work, my bumper is held on by like 5 bolts lol

car looks sick... love the hood

**herrherrlich** · 01-05-2004 10:16 PM

Hahah. Awesome write-up. Gotta make sure I follow it to a 't' when the time comes. Especially the extra bolts step.

**makenzie71** · 01-05-2004 10:25 PM

I like my version better...but because removal is so much more fun...and involves a tree...

**SupraOfDoom** · 01-05-2004 10:42 PM

I have a spare 89+ Bumper in my garage, I like the 87's alot better personally...

anyone know how much I could sell the 89+ for?

**satan_srv** · 01-05-2004 10:45 PM

Is the only difference the center how it meets the hood?

**SupraOfDoom** · 01-05-2004 10:58 PM

Originally posted by satan_srv
Is the only difference the center how it meets the hood?

No the venting in the front is a different size... along with the girllies and turn signals.... oh and foglights.

**adjuster** · 01-05-2004 11:13 PM

Nice, but I'll keep my 88 thank you very much.
Besides, the 88 flows more air.
I could possibly be tempted to change out the rear lamps for newer ones, but the front cover is a keeper.

**SupraOfDoom** · 01-05-2004 11:31 PM

Originally posted by adjuster
Nice, but I'll keep my 88 thank you very much.
Besides, the 88 flows more air.
I could possibly be tempted to change out the rear lamps for newer ones, but the front cover is a keeper.

Although I love my 87 front end, I heard someone tested them vs each other for air flow, and the 89+ actual flowed a little better...

**LuMpY** · 01-12-2004 03:53 PM

How much for the extra bumper? I like both, but both of them don't work on the same car. I'm thinkin' my '87 would look a lot better with an updated front end. <Especially since there are about 4 old skool probes(nasty little bastards) around my apartment. The worst was when one of them passed when I had my mom in the car and she asked if that was a Supra too...I didn't say anything for a few seconds, then just said no.

**blackout_89t** · 01-12-2004 04:05 PM

Originally posted by SuprAng
haahhahahahahahhahahahahha

honestly when i was putting on my 3rd front end, like 90% of the bolts just snapped, i tried tapping them but it didnt work, my bumper is held on by like 5 bolts lol

car looks sick... love the hood

heh I have a pre '89 bumper on my '89, held on by about 4-5 bolts as well. Also 90% of the stock bolts snapped when it was taken off to get painted.

**Nick Stonawski** · 01-12-2004 06:02 PM

Hey Steppers good work!

ur half way there! go to Pep Boys and get some red paint and do a Advan Theme on the car!

i wanted to!

**TurboJazz** · 02-29-2004 06:00 PM

Originally posted by SupraNick
Hey Steppers good work!

ur half way there! go to Pep Boys and get some red paint and do a Advan Theme on the car! i wanted to!

That has got to be the sexiest supra i've ever seen!!

**boyer** · 02-29-2004 06:58 PM

nice chop

and nice how to

**ImUrTurboLover** · 06-24-2004 10:07 PM

newbie question:

I definetly like the 89-92 front bumper... but i've seen bodykits say they were for the 89-92 only and seen seperates for the 86.5-88

if i bought a bodykit for my supra (88 turbo) that was for an 89-92, would i have to do the same work? obviously the blinkers wont be the same and the grilles will be different...

basically what i'm asking is if i bought a bodykit for the 89-92, bought the 89-92 blinkers, i'd be good to go for the front end update correct?

MA701GGTE · 03-15-2005 01:40 AM

I put a 91 front bar on my 87, but with one difference: I hate the way the later bar meets the bonnet, so I modified it (with a grinder, for about 5 mins), and kept the earlier grille in place. Looks hot, except the front bar is black, and the rest of the car is white...

**albo_bizak** · 03-23-2007 06:35 AM

Does anyone know where can i find the hardware that mounts on location 1?

**nyteryda** · 04-11-2007 10:10 PM

hey supranikolai very nice supra. how did you get your head lights like that? looks very evil and sexy.

**TFINAL7M** · 07-11-2007 03:45 AM

88 and down bumper is sooo much sexyer!

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