I am considering buying this as it is in my price range and sounds very nice. Anyone who has researched it or has installed,owned or driven a car with it. Please let me know your thoughts. I tried to search but time after time I get the white screen please give me any information or opinions you have about the kit.
TIA,
Anthony
i'd say go for it, just be prepared to spend 10-15K w/ parts and labor and misc. things that will come up
if he can spend 10-15k, he might as well just get the titan 3.4
Me personally, i would just buy a shortblock already set-up. I think crower has had some serious delivery problems.
titan and crower are the same kit..... also I will be doing the labor myself...crower said 5 weeks from order
Originally Posted by ama0787
They are not the same kit. I spoke with Brian Crower himself and he said Crower does not make the crankshafts for the Titan 3.4 because of the quantity Titan needed.
Crower couldn't deliver on time for anything so Nero had to design his own kit ( I was there when he ordered, 8 months later I was also there when there was no ETA and he had to look elsewhere). If you've got the money and want reliability the complete shortblock is the way to go. If you have a machine shop you trust and aren't looking to push the limits on your own R&D dime there are other options out there.
I spoke with Brain crower too. The kit may not be the same but he said he stroker kit is in the titan drag car...also brian crower is no longer with crower and is his own seperate company so hopefully they will deliver
I watched Brad build the last 2 race motors and don't recall a Brian Crower or Crower kit going in either. If you believe such things, then you're likely to believe his track record doesn't mean anything towards his new company, hopefully I'm wrong but I'd prefer not to wait and find out.
Yeah I se where our coming from and like you hope that you are wrong. I would like to think that maybe he left Crwer cams to start his own higher quality and more effcient car. I think crower cams is dedicated more to domestic market. Where Brian Crower is catering to the sport compact/import market. He tld me that the rretainers are the same on the Brian crower valve springs and retainers but he said he uses a higer quality spring. His words to describe the ones from crower (old company) was a bottom of the barrel spring. Who knows what the real deal is and it is odd that he actually answered the phone instead of a secretary or anyhting like that. I personally think it is great as long as he delivers as said. If his company turns out to be solid you cant beat a company where you call and directly speak with the owner/designer of the products!.
I will give him the benefit of the doubt if I get enough money together for a stroker kit.
One love I bought your front bumper right? new primer only shipped to WV? If I remember right your name is Everton that is assuming you sold me the bumper. If so I appreciate it. Good deal
No I know Everton thoughOne love I bought your front bumper right? new primer only shipped to WV? If I remember right your name is Everton that is assuming you sold me the bumper. If so I appreciate it. Good deal
Would he have talked to me thjrough your s/n?? Also how I said BRian may have left crower cams to stqart a better company. That is waht happened with ITS turbos I believe the founder woprked for turbonetics before founding his own company. I could be wrong about the turbonetics part but I do knwo he left one turbo company because he felty he could do it better. That is half the reason why I chose that brand turbo
Like JE to CP, and Amsoil to Redline?
Hua are you saying the aboe companys were founded in the same manner? I am not really sure because of the emoticon. If so do you believe the split off companys are better? I have never used any of the oils or read about them either.
I use mobil 1 and think when I build my motor I will research oil and choose a new one as I heard mobil ones recipe changed a few years back and was no longer special.
CP and Redline were both formed by "disgruntled" former employees of their respective companies.
I doubt there is anything wrong with the Crower stroker kit. I also doubt that the majority of the target customer base has intension's of building a 1900HP 240MPH rail car. Based on these facts i think at $6,000 its the best option. I just cant justify $14,000 for a motor. There is no doubt Titans track record speaks for itself however even if i have to wait 8 months 6K sure beats 14K
For $6k, I would just get the SP or Titan 3.2L that is already ready to go.
That still uses a machined stock crank. I believe Crower would be a better choice between the two.
I think i will just go with either the HKS or Crower. I cant justify $14,000 for a motor in a car that i drive maybe 50 miles a month.
I also think so, crower uses a billet crank, How good are those rods and pistons though??
With the HKS Stroker assembly, you will have over $10k into the motor with all the other misc. parts and machine work. The crower will still put you close to the $10k mark.
Suprareyrey, The brian crower kit does utilize a billet crank and their pistons are CP pistons. Their rods will be more than over kill for most people's setups but carillo rods are optional for about $800 more.
Last edited by Alex D; 09-02-2006 at 02:06 PM.
I think a couple of people are confused, based on the pricetags they are tossing out. Compare the Titan 3.4L stroker kit with the Brian Crower 3.4L stroker kit or the HKS 3.4L stroker kit. Comparing the price of an assembled shortblock to a stroker kit does not make a lot of sense.
Whether to buy an assembled shortblock or to buy a kit will ultimately depend on your access to a qualified engine builder. Just be careful not to save a dime now to pay a dollar later. Spending $14k on one motor can be cheaper than spending $10k twice over.
Last edited by ScrappyJack; 09-02-2006 at 03:11 PM.
I second that Hua
The 3.2 has already shown us great improvements on spool, and has no issues revving up to and past 9.5k rpms (with the offset ground crank). This setup SP uses has been proven within the race community for many years, it's just VERY low key, and has had no issues putting down 1400+rwhp at all. My specific seupt is using stock sized bore, thankfully the cyl walls were perfect when we opened to rebuild. However the pistons can be ordered to your specs bore.
It's a nice alternative to getting some torque without going with a billet crank 3.4 kit.
Throw some billet mains on the setup and I think it would meet 90+% of the needs anyone would have.
Eitherway, I'm a fan of more displacement
Chris
What would be the redline to the BC kit as compared to the hks or titan stroker kits??
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
