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    USF vs. UCF

    Okay, well I've been doing some research...and originally I had planned to go to USF (for the past 3 years now actually) for Mechanical Engineering, but recently one of my teachers mentioned that UCF actually was known for engineering and has an EXCELLENT program. I've been visiting the crap out of both websites and finding out whatever I can, and so far I actually cant justify one much more than the other...

    Pretty much everything is even...Reeves BMW isnt even a mile away from USF and I'm hoping to just transfer over to whichever BMW is by the college I go to so I still have a job doing this stuff. Fields BMW is about 4 miles away, and its on I4, so thats a big disadvantage. My brother has his own branch of WaMu very close by to USF as well and he's really cool, I could drop by his place and hang out with him like I never really got the chance, plus get alot of financial advice and such

    On the other side, I've got some stats right here and UCF (who supposedly has a better engineering department) is a bit more suburban (which I'm used to and rather like, though city isnt bad really either)...UCF has a 55% admission rate as opposed to USF's 51% though thats kinda hard to compare since different people applied differently and stuff. A big thing that jumped out though is 75% average of finanical aid met at UCF as opposed to 32% at USF, so I might be able to live in some better housing and stuff, and I plan to live on campus for at least my first year. I really like UCF's virtual campus and stuff that I've seen, though Tampa is the technological capital of like the U.S. when it comes to WiFi and FIOS or fiber optic whatever.

    Back to USF...theres definetly a bigger Supra community here, especially MkIIIs. I'm not as big into them anymore thanks to having to focus on college, but it'd be nice to know some 7M friends. Off the top of my head, only Jessica Barton and her b/f reside in Orlando and I dont know many other Supra people off the top of my head as opposed to knowing a few MkIII and MkIV people alike in Tampa.

    So I need some additional opinions and such. Personal experiences with the colleges as well as Orlando opinions...so far I like Tampa, but I am reminded that my education is more important than what city I live in. And I'm staying in Florida for the 4 year term.

    Thoughts? Opinions?

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    I liked USF. I graduated with a bachelor's degree in Mechanical engineering in 2005. At one point, me, my sister, my aunt and 3 of my cousins were all going at the same time. The engineering dept. at USF is pretty good. They built a new building 2 years back and now there is a new nano technology building across the street. I think you would like it at USF. Definitely a lot of supras around
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    I don't know if you're into football but USF is playing UCF right this second. You should go to whichever school wins the game, haha. The on campus UCF stadium will be done for next football season.


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    the U !!!

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    lol I've always liked playing flag football and watching it, but never got into it...probably because I barely am over 100 lbs. But yeah I read about that UCF vs. USF on UCF's page lol.

    I visted USF two years back and they hadnt finished it yet. I am interested in the mini-Baja racers and F1 cars they make, though I think UCF does that also with some involvement in SAE.

    Ultimately I'll probably have to rely on the tour I take of each...there was supposed to be a USF rep coming by our school yesterday but never made it...UCF rep is coming in early October, so I'll see then.

    UCF also had a very impressive recreational area with workout machines and a pool or two, tennis courts, and all that stuff, plus an interesting program called "LINKS" where the more you visit events and stuff on the schedule, the more points you get to auction stuff at the end of the year or whatever. USF conversely has their own first-year's program as well...I just dont want to get stuck with someone I dont like. I'm partially tempted to look into UCF's stupid little "Wellness center" where they have no drugs or alchohol and everyone is all hippy-health oriented because I'm a straight edge, but dont want to hang out really with bigger losers than me.

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    Yeah, if you're into working out or want to start the UCF gym is the best gym I've even been to in my life. Going to ab and kickboxing classes with 25 hot freshman girls...priceless. =) But I've never been to the USF gym so I can't really compair the two.

    This just in....

    UCF 10 USF 7.....1 min left in the 2nd quarter. Go UCF!

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    I always get nervous going to the gym though with how skinny I am...I just cant gain any muscle, and I'm hoping for that to change in college.

    Kickboxing though, thats cool. I havent done any martial arts in years..I need all the anti-rape I can get! lol

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    so u work at Reeves? id say go to USF , UCF is a waste of $$, the only thing i heard good bout them was the video and photography production..plus its not whwre u go to learn its how good u learn and how much u really want to succeed...Im at reeves everyday just about man if u ever see the Kuhn Honda,VW box truck around, thad be me..hahaha
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    No I was comparing how close each college's BMW dealership was to the college. I work at Southpointe BMW in Sarasota, and plan on continuing to work as a technician and such throughout college

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    Obviously my opinion is a little bias b/c I've been going to UCF since fall of 04' but I can't get enough of this college and the surrounding Orlando area. Just wait until you take the tour of UCF and you will quickly see how much money is being pumped into this school and its local economy. Even though I am a business major, from my understanding the engineering program here is top notch. I know of a few people that have graduated from that program within the last year and have quickly found themselves at a job with a starting salary of around $70K.

    Now here's the best part. We seem to have some of the most beautiful women for any college I have ever been to. What I don't understand is how often you run into them. I mean for a college with almost 50K students (this includes satellite campuses) I've got at least 3 to 5 beautiful women in my smaller classes and 20 to 30 in my larger (400+) classes, and I'm talking porn star level hotness.

    You'll just have to wait and see when you get here. You will also notice we currently have a lot of construction around campus. This includes tons of student housing, parking garages, a football stadium, new roads, an engineering and laser research center, and much more.

    If you are planning to live on campus the dining facility is amazing. Itís an "all you can eat" buffet style and is absolutely delicious. There are plenty of things to do both on and off campus. You're an hour from the beach, 30 minutes to Adventure Island, and 15 minutes to downtown, plus there's tons of local restaurants, malls and shopping areas to waste your money. If youíre into bands the local scene is amazing, plus just about every band that goes on tour throughout the year passes through Orlando at one time or another.

    Even though Iím not yet a MKIV owner I have found the local Supra community to be growing and hopefully one day the Orlando Supra Meet will be comparable to Texas. Just give it some time, you'll find that there are a lot more MKIVs around than you thought.

    I hope I helped out a little. I tend to start rambling a little when I get excited about certain topics. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Just don't take my word for it. I've had nothing but a great experience since I've been here. Good luck and take your time, visit both schools, weigh out the pros/cons and then make up your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsk84life
    Obviously my opinion is a little bias b/c I've been going to UCF since fall of 04' but I can't get enough of this college and the surrounding Orlando area. Just wait until you take the tour of UCF and you will quickly see how much money is being pumped into this school and its local economy. Even though I am a business major, from my understanding the engineering program here is top notch. I know of a few people that have graduated from that program within the last year and have quickly found themselves at a job with a starting salary of around $70K.

    Now here's the best part. We seem to have some of the most beautiful women for any college I have ever been to. What I don't understand is how often you run into them. I mean for a college with almost 50K students (this includes satellite campuses) I've got at least 3 to 5 beautiful women in my smaller classes and 20 to 30 in my larger (400+) classes, and I'm talking porn star level hotness.

    You'll just have to wait and see when you get here. You will also notice we currently have a lot of construction around campus. This includes tons of student housing, parking garages, a football stadium, new roads, an engineering and laser research center, and much more.

    If you are planning to live on campus the dining facility is amazing. Itís an "all you can eat" buffet style and is absolutely delicious. There are plenty of things to do both on and off campus. You're an hour from the beach, 30 minutes to Adventure Island, and 15 minutes to downtown, plus there's tons of local restaurants, malls and shopping areas to waste your money. If youíre into bands the local scene is amazing, plus just about every band that goes on tour throughout the year passes through Orlando at one time or another.

    Even though Iím not yet a MKIV owner I have found the local Supra community to be growing and hopefully one day the Orlando Supra Meet will be comparable to Texas. Just give it some time, you'll find that there are a lot more MKIVs around than you thought.

    I hope I helped out a little. I tend to start rambling a little when I get excited about certain topics. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Just don't take my word for it. I've had nothing but a great experience since I've been here. Good luck and take your time, visit both schools, weigh out the pros/cons and then make up your mind.
    You werent rambling..thats the kind of stuff I'm looking for to know! I'm not into bands, but damn..I like hearing the female part! lol.

    My ultimate goal is to design engines for Toyota or BMW, but I really am leaning more and more to also getting some buisness classes and have both majors...if need be, I'll try to get enough influence at Toyota to make the letters "TRD" actually MEAN something and start mass producing an aftermarket like SVT (though is dead now), MazdaSpeed, AMG, Nismo, Mugen...etc. to make their cars fun (notice I didnt say more fun...lol)

    One of my dad's good friends has had a 95 MkIV 5 speed since 98 or so, and I personally think 95 is the best year (for the same reasons I think the 88 is the best MkIII) so he said about 3-4 years ago, when he was ready to sell it I'd be the person to get it. I'm just hoping I can get it before college!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian
    I always get nervous going to the gym though with how skinny I am...I just cant gain any muscle, and I'm hoping for that to change in college.

    Kickboxing though, thats cool. I havent done any martial arts in years..I need all the anti-rape I can get! lol
    Oh, you'll be fine. If you're skinny that's ever more of a reason for you to be in the gym. When I was 14 I shot up to 6'2" but my muscles forgot to grow and I only weighed 125 ish. I didn't go through a natural muscle growth spirt until I was 18 so I stayed a twig through h.s. Hopefully you should hit yours soon. Either way if you lift heavy weights and eat lots of protein you will get bigger. As far as the anti-rape...you should be alright...Shane1015 never steps foot on UCF campus.

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    I graduated from U Can't Finish with my civil engineering degree. The engineering department is good, and they have a good lab set up for your upper level courses. Parking sux's but everything is a walk away not a drive away like USF. Titan Motor Sports is about 7 miles due west and Fields BMW is a bit of a traffic hike away from campus (10+/- Miles). I would say live off campus and save some money (Dorms and campus apartments are way over priced for what you get). If you live around the Goldenrod and University Blvd area you will be about 6-7 miles from campus and 5 miles to BMW. Tons of apartments to choose from and Titan Motor Sports will be about a mile away. Also the community colleges are not to far from this location as well. The U Can't Finish statement is due to the fact that engineering courses are somethimes a pain in the arse to work around each other time wise and not many classes are offered at several different times. Valencia Community College offers some of the Pre-Core classes which can be a little easier (maybe), for sure cheaper (a good thing to keep in mind when you have schedule conflicts. The teachers at VCC are usually professionals in the field and have masters degrees. UCF proffesors are also feild professionals (PE) but most are DR'S. Beware of the professors that are only into research they usually do not give a crap about you. And one huge mistake to avoid is taking Dr Minardi for any class. Always ask people in the program who they took and if the professor is any good. One thing UCF had for Mechanical grads was a Graduate program in engine building and design. Not sure if the program is still there or not. If you have any UCF questions feel free to ask. Oh and from what I have heard from anyone who has done financial aid with UCF has said it was a nightmare. Make photo copies of every document you give them and keep everything they give you. I paid my way to avoid the head ache.

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    The engineering school is probably the best thing at UCF, which is good because the fine arts and psych departments really suck. We get a lot of cute girls though....

    Seriously though, UCF is an odd school for a lot of reasons. The major complaints I hear out of the engineering department are that the early classes are retarded, mixed with a few meant to seperate the men from the boys, and that most of your teachers won't speak english (at least not in any fasion you can understand it). USF is where I'm considering doing my grad program.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian
    I always get nervous going to the gym though with how skinny I am...I just cant gain any muscle, and I'm hoping for that to change in college.

    Kickboxing though, thats cool. I havent done any martial arts in years..I need all the anti-rape I can get! lol
    Heh, I'm afraid to go to the kickboxing thing. Everyone I've seen that goes has got some really bad habits, and probably getting more confidence in their fighting than they should have. I was trained pretty hard, and I don't feel like ruining that, or hurting someone else sparring. It's really just a glorified aerobics class far as I can tell. Someone feel free to correct me.

    Don't worry about the gym atmosphere if you're a skinny guy. There are lots there, and everyone is at different levels. Just don't sit next to the guys who are there every day bodybuilding, they'll make you feel bad even if they don't mean to. I'm 145lbs in reasonably good shape. I can't seem to clock into a 155lb category without gaining fat. If you're intimidated, go hit the treadmills or something with the cute girls till you get comfortable with the place. If you seriously want to get bigger, it's more about what you eat than what weights you lift. Solve that, or ask some guys at the gym.


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    AWESOME INFO! You guys are a great help...thanks for the advice.

    Engine Building and Design is *exactly* the specific stuff I'd be looking into! Its my favorite part of a car by far (its the heart of it...) and thats what I love most about cars.

    That bit about the housing helps too..I figured for at least my first year I'll live on campus though cause of their silly little "LINKS" program thing and usually I guess its easier/more social to do so.

    I do have to ask...whats the difference between a graduate and an undergraduate.....like their program and stuff? Also...I SHOULD avoid Dr. Minardi or I SHOULDNT avoid him/her...?

    Yeah, kickboxing IS glorified aerobics, but a bit more manly lol. I dont like sparring personally either. I may do that, probably not. Chances are I'll end up just going for the stationary bike...I always liked it. Plus it cools you off as you go if you get on the right one lol.

    Thanks again guys

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    UCF all the way...i love it

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    You can probably say a lot of the same things about both schools. I've been at USF for 4 years and it's been amazing. The campus is gorgeous, there's new buildings going up left and right, parking's finally getting sorted out ...

    The only gripe I have is the damn math department. I don't think there is one teacher that speaks fluent english.

    btw, I thought this was going to be a football thread, I got kinda excited

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    DO NOT TAKE DR. MINARDI FOR ANY THING. Undergraduate is your first four year degree. Example B.S. (Bachelor of Science) in Mechanical Engineering. Even though you are a mechanical major you have to take a diverse course load in your pre-core classes to give you a taste of all the engineering fields then you branch off into the core classes of your major. Graduate classes are focused more on specific parts of your choosen major typically. The best example to give you is the Engine dynamics program where you learn about engine design. This is your masters degree and will take another two years +/- to obtain. Your graduate classes will cost about twice as much as your under grad classes. Both USF and UCF are good schools you just have to determine which is the best option for you. Socially stay on campus one year if you do not know anyone but if you know people save the money and just spend 18 hours on campus if you want. They do not kick you off campus at any time as long as you are a student. I will tell you that you have to focus real hard the first year because that is when they weed out people with chemistry, physics, and the math gauntlet (calculus 1-3 and diferential equations). If you do not get through the math your done period. Chemistry is not needed all that much once your done with it but physics will be used in every class so survive the first two years of these classes and you will be on your way if not pick a new major. The social aspect of college is what kills most everyone and thats when partying is more important than the degree they wanted. If you want to be an engineer there are sacrifices to make unless you are extremly inteligent. Study during the week party friday and saturday. Or change majors take business classes and party every night. This is the key to college (time management).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domos69
    Or change majors take business classes and party every night. This is the key to college (time management).
    I'll definitely have to call BULLSHIT on that. For the record these damn business classes are no joke. I'm not struggling like I'm sure I would be as an engineering student but I spend a hell of a lot of time studying. The main reason is b/c I decided to take the harder teachers, who expect the most from their students, focusing on concept retention and how to apply these same concepts at the corporate level.

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    LOL I knew that comment would burn someone! Sorry mcsk84life. Used to be one of those on going jokes in the engineering department. No offense but depending on what business path you take the comment could stand. Business administration route is the best way to go I think. It touches a little on all the main subjects instead of just one such as accounting or marketing. Engineering students had to get out their frustrations with the business students just becasue the buildings are attached and all the hot girls (or most all girls for that matter) were not doing engineering. This is possibly a good enough reason not to go engineering. Woman ratio is like 1:20. Any way having a degree in something is better than not having one at all in todays business world. For those with creative minds ignor the last statement. Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiv
    It's really just a glorified aerobics class far as I can tell. Someone feel free to correct me.

    If you seriously want to get bigger, it's more about what you eat than what weights you lift. Solve that, or ask some guys at the gym.
    Yep, you're pretty close about the kickboxing class comment. I just go in there to check out the hot girls and get some cardio done. As far as getting bigger...you can eat all the protein you want but if you don't touch the weights you won't get bigger...well your gut might get fatter but you won't pack on lean muscle mass. Heavy weight with slow controlled movements + a heavy protein diet is your quickest ticket to gaining muscle.

    I'm almost done with my masters in business administration with a concentration in finance @ UCF. Orion- If you ever want to know more about the MBA grad program just pm me....there are a lot of people in the program that have their undergrad degrees in engineering.

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    Obviously it takes both, my point was just that everyone seems to think you can lift weights and ignore what you eat.

    As far as the aerobics kickboxing thing, I do know of a few hot girls that go there. My initial trianing was as a spar partner to a bunch of guys that were both training for K1, and looking to make the transition to MMA fighting. I agree though, I'm not looking to spar like that these days. Didn't mind the bruises and aching bones back in high school, but I've got obligations now. Just looking for a bag to keep me healthy and capable.

    Though, I hear there's a jiu jitsu club on campus now. That's always a good workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiv
    Obviously it takes both, my point was just that everyone seems to think you can lift weights and ignore what you eat.
    Opps, I misinterpreted what you wrote sorry. It took me years to finally figure out how to get bigger from working out. Basically to sum it up...you only get out what you put in. Years ago I never used to push myself to do the last couple reps to where you're stuck mid rep and keep trying to finish the rep even though you're not moving (muscle failure)....but once I started doing that along with almost 200 grams of protein a day....I noticed decent gains. It sounds simple and stupid but it really goes a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domos69
    DO NOT TAKE DR. MINARDI FOR ANY THING. .

    LOL

    I had him for statics and dynamics. He just had a masters degree back then. IIRC he got it from MIT.

    His tests were pretty hard. Usually coming out of left field with some strange problems.

    And when you'd talk to him he wouldn't look you in the eye, he'd stare off with a spaced out look on his face hah....weird.

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    Visit both campuses and do an organized tour with some one from the school admissions program. Not all research should be done via the internet.

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