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    Quote Originally Posted by dasalvykidd View Post
    but a welded diff will work better
    yea ive been there before, but i would take a 1.5 over a 2 or welded any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin2Turbo View Post
    what edge are you trying to gain by cutting them?
    not sure i fully understand the question, but just to get rid of some of this horendous body roll and there is a lot of it lol and to lower the center of gravity of the car. But i plan on doing coilovers in the very near future so I dont wanna buy lowering springs and use them for two or three months, then swap over to coilovers and not need the springs anymore. So i am just thinking of cutting them just so it will be better than it is as of now. It will not be a long term thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin2Turbo View Post
    thats not called weight transfer, its called body roll. and if you can learn on a car without it, it will help wonders. explain how a sloppy shifting car is better to learn on. you will learn much more about control and handling of a car aswell as learn alot faster if you have a car that is precise and agile. not trying to rain on your parade, but didnt you just start drifting?
    That is not true. As long as the car is not poorly setup (ie a hodgepodge of shitty parts, bad alignment, etc) a car that is not modded is MUCH better to learn on. The extra body roll helps you learn how weight transfer happens and what to do when the weight does transfer to the other side. The same can be said for drifting with no e-brake, no PS, poor diff, etc. The guys that build a car before even trying to drift tend to take longer to learn how to drift, and then when they do they are so relient on how easy their car is to drift they didn't actually learn proper techniques. For example, I can't tell you the number of people I see that are "good" at drifting, but then you realize that without their Hydro ebrake or massive power they would suck balls. Learning on a mostly stock car will yield much better results in the long run.

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    but a welded diff will work better
    No it won't. 9 times out of 10 if you ask someone that went from a welded to a proper clutch type (1.5 or 2 way) they will tell you the welded sucks.

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    I'm going to have to agree with tErbo. It's way better to learn with an underpowered, even crappy, car. What did Keichi Tsuchiya start with? Corolla. And he is quite good I would say. And I learned about how to drift in a 2wd Toyota pickup 4 cylinder truck. With no lsd. And the wrong type of e-brake lever lol. It's best to start from scratch with nothing. And have to earn your car. And build your car WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. I can usually spot one of those "spoiled" drivers right away.

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    ^this

    so does all this mean cut springs are ok?

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    Well I think the only plus to cut springs is you would have a lower center of gravity. But not by much. And it would probably be bouncy or so I've heard. If you want to find out and you can do it for free then why not try it and find out. As long as you are getting coilovers then you might as well lol

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    sounds like a plan. i hope to have the car out on the track on the 21st. but that is in theory lol

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    my welded is good enough for mee lol and cheaper

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    Quote Originally Posted by planemos View Post
    Well I think the only plus to cut springs is you would look cooler
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    Sooo many broke motherfuckers posting in this mans legit thread. Leigh WTF?
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    lol im not "broke" but just wondering if it would be worth my time until i get the coilovers, which will be within the next two months. but yah sorry for thread jacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownMK3Kid View Post
    lol im not "broke" but just wondering if it would be worth my time until i get the coilovers, which will be within the next two months. but yah sorry for thread jacking.
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    ^ hahaha lol i am not without money. when i make money i divide everything percentage wise most of it pays for college tho. i had to buy my clutch so I dont have enough "car money" to buy coilovers yet, but i would still like to get it on the track. i was just asking what everyone thought. that is all, but no I am not flowing with money obviously lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by wangan91 View Post
    Sooo many broke motherfuckers posting in this mans legit thread. Leigh WTF?

    Better get used to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by tErbo b00st View Post
    That is not true. As long as the car is not poorly setup (ie a hodgepodge of shitty parts, bad alignment, etc) a car that is not modded is MUCH better to learn on. The extra body roll helps you learn how weight transfer happens and what to do when the weight does transfer to the other side. The same can be said for drifting with no e-brake, no PS, poor diff, etc. The guys that build a car before even trying to drift tend to take longer to learn how to drift, and then when they do they are so relient on how easy their car is to drift they didn't actually learn proper techniques. For example, I can't tell you the number of people I see that are "good" at drifting, but then you realize that without their Hydro ebrake or massive power they would suck balls. Learning on a mostly stock car will yield much better results in the long run.
    i dont think so. the way i see it is if you your learning to ride a bike and you have training wheels, would you want two sticks hanging down that technically prevent you from falling or would you want actually guide wheels. or would you go fight a war in a biplane versus a jet. the reason the aftermarket performance companys make things is because it gives you the edge, it makes things easier. why not learn on something easy rather than hard. what ever way you get there you still get the feel of a car and understand how it corners, transfers and all that. so why make it hard on your self. im not saying go out in a 1000hp drift monster your first time, but there are alot of things that make learning drifting alot easier, so i dont know how having things that make it easy rob or take away from the basic fundamentals of the sport. the point of drifting is to have the car loose control but still be in control at all times. a drift prepped car is way easier to feel when its gonna break loose or not and is way more predictable, which makes learning easier and safer, not to mention more fun. because of that, you can then go take a car that maybe isnt as easy, say a stock car and drift that, or even a high power car that your really have to be sure on throttle control. i dont really understand how you guys dont understand what im saying or getting at.

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    They get what your saying and simply put, don't agree. Learning on a stock/fairly stock car will allow you to truly see what each part you modify/replace does to benefit your cars handling/driving performance. Once you start actually modifying your car you will see what people mean when they say its good to learn your car when its stock or close to stock.

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    Yea if you have a stock car you generally have to throw it around harder. So it requires you to use the proper technique. And if you mess up you will suffer the consequences. So you will learn quickly! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedootie View Post
    They spent all their flo on XXR's.
    You sir are hilarious.















    Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by planemos View Post
    Yea if you have a stock car you generally have to throw it around harder. So it requires you to use the proper technique. And if you mess up you will suffer the consequences. So you will learn quickly! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownMK3Kid View Post
    ^ hahaha lol i am not without money. when i make money i divide everything percentage wise most of it pays for college tho. i had to buy my clutch so I dont have enough "car money" to buy coilovers yet, but i would still like to get it on the track. i was just asking what everyone thought. that is all, but no I am not flowing with money obviously lol
    haha and then your left with nothing right man? = broke ^.^
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    ^lol no part of the percentage is savings lol, but yah to most peoples standard on sf yes i am broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin2Turbo View Post
    i dont think so. the way i see it is if you your learning to ride a bike and you have training wheels, would you want two sticks hanging down that technically prevent you from falling or would you want actually guide wheels. or would you go fight a war in a biplane versus a jet. the reason the aftermarket performance companys make things is because it gives you the edge, it makes things easier. why not learn on something easy rather than hard. what ever way you get there you still get the feel of a car and understand how it corners, transfers and all that. so why make it hard on your self. im not saying go out in a 1000hp drift monster your first time, but there are alot of things that make learning drifting alot easier, so i dont know how having things that make it easy rob or take away from the basic fundamentals of the sport. the point of drifting is to have the car loose control but still be in control at all times. a drift prepped car is way easier to feel when its gonna break loose or not and is way more predictable, which makes learning easier and safer, not to mention more fun. because of that, you can then go take a car that maybe isnt as easy, say a stock car and drift that, or even a high power car that your really have to be sure on throttle control. i dont really understand how you guys dont understand what im saying or getting at.
    Your going into a entire other field we are not talking about fighting wars with planes or sticks as training wheels wtf?terboost is right heres an example you have a stock car rwd 5 speed basic little mods exhaust an some sort of lsd [factory,welded.1.5 or 2 way w.e.] ,most likely when the stock car is going to initiate using the e brake he is going to have to learn to transfer weight to the front wheels [by tapping the brake] in order to assist the factory ebrake to fully lock the rear wheels. so off the bat right there hes learning weight transfer while using the e brake. Now you have a decently modified car with a hydro set up, then the person is just going to yank it an it locks.The closer to stock you are the more technique/tricks your learn .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownMK3Kid View Post
    ...but yah to most peoples standard on $f yes i am broke.
    Same here.
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