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    DIY: Removing wings from RMM/Wings West Front Lip

    I did a search on modifying these lips but only found a couple of threads talking about doing it with some photos of those that had done it. I saw a few people had just cut the sides off and left it at that, which looks ok from a distance. Others had the over hang where the lip extends past the end of the bumper. The steps below show how you can fix all of those problems and make the lip look like it originally came with a straight edge along the top.


    Ive had this lip on my car for a couple of years and decided to take the oppotunity over the weekend while my car was off the road to modify the lip and remove the side pieces. I took photos through most of the process so you can see how its done. I didnt stop to take many photos between finishing the glassing and finishing the sanding but applying the body filler and sanding it over and over is not rocket science.

    NOTE: This will only work for the fibreglass versions of this lip.

    Its not complicated, it will keep you busy for a full weekend and it will cost you under $50 (excluding painting) for the fibreglass, and body filler that you need.

    Big thanks to my mate Gary who put up with a substandard dust mask and helped me with alot of the sanding. That brings me to an important point. This will create alot of dust. Get yourself a good mask! I recommend a 3M mask with interchangeable filters for around $100.

    Step 1:

    Using tape mark the sections you want to remove. You want to come down a few millimetres lower than the very top edge of the lip. This is so you can create a curved edge. You should be cutting in line with the top of the vertical edge before it curves over at the top.





    this is now the point of no return. Repeat on the other side.

    Step 2:

    If you have a look at the bottom edge of your bumper to where the sides of the lip will attach you will notice that they bend upwards. To have a nice snug fit its best to mould the new section over this part of the bumper. To do this you have to attach the lip exactly where you want it to sit.

    This may freak you out a little but you have to drill a few holes in the lip in order to get it mounted up to the bumper square. Its easy to get rid of these holes later. I used various pieces of mdf screwed in to hold it in place.










    Step 3:

    Fibreglassing... the itchy part. If you do not know how to fibreglass read my "How to Fibreglass" thread here. Now for this first part you dont need to go crazy. It doesnt need to be strong enough to attach the lip to the bumper. All we are doing is enough to get the shape and the angle needed. Due to the block attached in the middle to hold the lip in place fibreglassed a couple of pieces about 2-3 inches wide on each side.

    TIP: Use tape to mask off areas that you dont want the fibreglass to stick to i.e. the bumper.



    Once its dry remove the lip and pull off all of the tape. You should be left with something that looks like this:






    Step 4:

    Using a piece of cardboard cut out a piece the shape of the lip and tape it to the top. This will allow you to fibreglass the middle where the block was and still retain the correct shape/angle. This time put a few layers on to get the desired strength.

    TIP: Cover the cardboard in tape first so it pulls off easily.



    Once its dry pull off the tape and carboard and it should look like this:






    Step 5:

    Using an airsaw trim off the excess. And check that the lip still fits snug on the bumper. Check that the new section is thick enough. It should be 2-3mm thick. If its too thin add a couple more layers before continuing.



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    Step 6:

    As you can in the photo above the ends of the lip does not line up with the bumper, it over hangs by about 5mm. There are two ways you can fix this. 1. you can cut the end off and fibreglass up a new end piece. or 2. you can retain the end piece and just remove a piece out of the middle. I decided to go with option two. Fibreglassing straight sections is alot easier than doing curves.

    Measure how much you need to bring it in. Come in about an inch from the end and mark out a piece the same width as what you need to adjust the end by. Its easier to cut off less than you need and then take a bit more off than to take too much the first time.



    Once you have done that using some more tape, tape the ends in place securely. Make sure that the visable outside part of lip is lined up correctly.






    Fibreglass the ends back onto the lip from the inside.


    Step 7:

    Using some small pieces of carboard and more tape make up a couple of little pieces for the end to keep the fibreglass in the shape you want.




    Once its all dry pull off the carboard and tape and it should look like this






    Trim the excess off and you are done with the fibreglassing.

    Step 8:

    I didnt take any photos of the rest of what I did until I was finished. I had limited time to get it finished and delivered to the painter so I couldnt continually stop for photos. Ill explain it as best as I can.

    What you want to do now is get it smooth ready for painting. I use standard off the shelf body filler.

    The first thing I do using an angle grinder with a grinding disk is to take off the excess fibreglass. Carefull you dont go too deep otherwise you will have to add more layers on. Where the join is where you attached the end back on there is what looks like a crack. You cant fill a small crack like that. You have to open it up a little. Again carefully using the grinder I cut out a wider space between the two pieces. Be carefull not to go all the way through.

    This is also the time to remove all the screw holes. Using a drill bit designed for countersinking screw heads (its a triangluar 45 degrees angled piece) drill into the holes a little to open them up like a cone. Again this makes it easier to fill them with body filler. The trick with this stuff is not to try and do it all in one go. You have to build up your layers.

    TIP: put it on smooth, the rougher it is the more you have to sand.

    Once it dries sand it down with 80grit. Apply a second layer to the low patches. This is also a good time to fill any holes from stone chips. Repeat the process until its flat and level. Round all the edges and keep sanding working your way down to 180. Thats smooth enough for primer.

    The finished product should look like this:













    Bolt the lip back up to the bumper for a final check of the fitment. If it fits ok then its off to get painted







    I only dropped it off to the painters this afternoon. I might have it back by the weekend. Ill post photos as soon as I get it.

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    Nice write up..

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    Thank you for sharing that.

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    Hey, thanks alot! I love threads like these. I look forward to the painted lip and seeing the results.
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    Should have shaved the side markers on the bumper as well. I did mine, and love it

    Lip looks awesome and this is how I would do mine as well when I get it. Can't wait to see it painted!

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    thanks guys, im really looking forward to seeing it painted. With it all sanded its hard to see how its going to look. Its not until its all a uniform colour. Even in primer makes a big difference.

    I actually like the indicators on the late model being in the bumper rather than on the guards. thats just personal preference i guess.

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    Great write up!!! That is very helpful for us that are undecided on to leave the lip the same or make it flush like you did. Thanks

    I can't wait until I see some pictures of it painted.

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    in primer



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    Great write-up! This should be a sticky since a lot of people on these forums have a RMM/Wings West front lip!

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    Looks great! Keep up the good work!

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    This Should Def Be A Sticky!!!!!!!!!!

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    Painted and fitted. Really happy with the results. Cannot tell its been modified.





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    Wow, that looks pretty freaking good.

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    That came out looking great! Nice work.

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    Nice work/clean up. I remember your car in that photoshoot thread you had.
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    Congrats! You are the first Aussie to get his own thread stickied on SF.com!

    I am going to move this to the Interior/Exterior forum and stick it up top. Well done, and thanks for the great write-up!

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    Thanks guys! Its about time I contributed something back to the forums, im on here all the time doing research for my car.

    Sweet. I dont even know if I have any sticky threads on the Aussie forums yet haha.

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    I am pretty sure the RMM lip that Dusty at MVP sells is different than the one in these pictures. THe few that I have seen and worked on didn't require that you add any fiber glass for the bolt holes on the ends once you cut the wings off. All I did was take a high speed cutter and cut the wings off. I think you are creating more work than what should be required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1A1 View Post
    I am pretty sure the RMM lip that Dusty at MVP sells is different than the one in these pictures. THe few that I have seen and worked on didn't require that you add any fiber glass for the bolt holes on the ends once you cut the wings off. All I did was take a high speed cutter and cut the wings off. I think you are creating more work than what should be required.

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    OP's lip is a fiberglass copy of the Wings West lip,which is made out of highly flexible and nearly indestructible urethane lip.Usually when I cut wings and shorten the sides on WW lip,I use Duramix,it gives the best results and it bonds to the lip like nothing else

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    Looks good brother.

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    didnt post this photo up before. It shows all the new section and corner that was fabricated.


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    I've always wonded why a aftermarket company doesn't get the WW lip, copy it w/out the wings, shorten it, and round the edges and sell them.... There must be a ton of people who would jump all over it!

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    looks good, i wish there was a sticky of how to cut it and leave it black(basically with no fiberglass or paint.

    But, yours look really good.

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    the MVP lip has the small lip jut in case you want to remove the wings.

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