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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal_K View Post
    I hear you on Hell's difficulty. My barb is now 51 Act 1 Hell, it's gruesome. Just when I thought I was doing well in nightmare, Hell kicks it up a few notches. Something tells me that I won't be cruising through it until I hit level 60.

    DPS with shout is 4.2, armor is 3.4. Good/bad?
    I'm sure there will be some champion/rare groups that will be difficult at any level & gear in hell. Vortex/Jailer & Arcane & Shielding/Invulnerable?

    Quote Originally Posted by LHturbo View Post
    anyone use the auction house? ive scored some sick weapons for my demon hunter. Went from 600 damage to 1900 in like an hour of play and finding new stuff in auction house to wear and use.
    Yes. There are so many items available that it's relatively easy to find a steal (sub-20k) of a weapon for a massive upgrade. I'm using a 330dps rare bow on my wizard, and it totally kicks ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by SupraHKSx View Post
    Man there are ppl on diablo forums SOLOING inferno! Especially with DH and Wizard. Geez. Right now I'm at 33k life and 18k DPS. Not too shabby. I need to kill azmodan then diablo soon.
    Not anymore. Blizzard put an end to that when they discovered skills that were being used not how they intended. Wizard was using Energy Armor-Force Armor with intentionally as little vitality as possible. 35% of 4k hp is MUCH less than 35% of 40k hp, but the Diamond Skin-Crystalline Shell is still of a high value. Blizzard just hotfixed the skill so that it will only absorb up to 100% of your life. So if you have 4k life and a monster hits you for 20k, you're going to die. As for Demon Hunters, smoke screen's duration just got cut in half, which is huge for affecting how they could escape & evade in inferno.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeilSide935 View Post
    silencer,

    So if my Hardcore character dies, and I only have one hardcore character, do the items in his stash remain or do they poof? I just made a HC Witch Doctor. You think the BS is worth investing in since you may be able to roll Vitality gear repeatedly?

    LexusFTW,

    I forgot to log on last night. I'll try to shoot you one tonight if I don't pass out after work again.
    When you die in HC, your stash is fine. Everything on your character, both equipped gear and in inventory, is gone forever. There is no body looting like D2 - they didn't want ANY reason for another player to possibly benefit from a death, and they also wanted to be able to remove gear from the game. Yes, the hardcore and softcore stashes are totally separate. Also, the stash is not tied to characters - it's tied to the account. If you only have one character and you die, your gold, stash, and blacksmith/jewelcrafter progress is still saved. I haven't died yet in hardcore, but two friends have, and they kept all their stash/bs/jc progress (and gold & stash items) so far. Getting all 3 tabs of hardcore stash is important as it allows hoarding of items, which means you can continually have all 10 auctions running. Good items in hardcore (those with vitality, main stat, socket, etc) sell for a LOT more than softcore. I sold a rare amulet that was around +20 to all 4 stats, 15% MF, and a socket with around a level 25 requirement for 199k gold yesterday.

    With prices being so much higher in the gold auction house in hardcore, I think it's only a (short) matter of time before Blizzard realizes that not implementing a RMAH for hardcore is a big mistake to their profits. They'll make you jump through whatever hoops necessary to cleanse their hands of what happens if their servers cause you to die and lose all the real $ you put into RMAH purchases.. but I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

    As for leveling the BS and rolling vitality gear.. I think you're better off just buying +vit gear from the AH early on. You know what the cost is, and there will be plenty of deals. The BS is a crapshoot and still costs a decent chunk of gold compared to what the AH has available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.nosidda View Post
    All the gear for that character is gone, I don't think hardcore and softcore share stashes, although i could be wrong. If they do, i would assume ALL of your gear would disappear, since you HC character disappears and you can't play him again.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeilSide935 View Post
    I understand how Hardcore characters work. What I am asking is in regards to the Hardcore stash. No, they do not share between Hardcore and Normal. silencer mentioned unlocking all stash slots for his HC stash, and how it is of huge utility for future characters. What I am asking is if I only have ONE HC character, he dies, and I have stuff in the HC stash, does it remain there regardless if I have another HC character made yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.nosidda View Post
    I think if you have another HC character made it will, but if you don't it will disappear.
    My reasoning behind this is that the game cannot decide who initially put the gear in there so it will keep it.
    The only real way to know though would be to test it out!
    You can have your only HC character die, and all your gold, stash gear, and BS/JC progress is saved. It doesn't matter which hardcore character put the gear in there - it's just tied to your account. Create another HC character and you'll see everything available. Two friends have done this.


    Remember.. the stash is just as important for keeping high volume/low price guaranteed sales going on the AH. I always tend to price my *very* good items high and my decent items low. This ensures that I hit the jackpot every now and then but that I also maintain a steady flow of income. I'll keep 2-3 high priced items on auction, and the other 7-8 are priced very low, between 2k-20k, to keep money flowing.

    In hardcore, unless it's a weapon, if it doesn't have vitality, I don't even bother with the AH. It gets salvaged.
    Here's my list of what I look for:
    1. If it's a magic (blue) item and has vitality+str/dex/int, I'll sell it for cheap (2k-4k), and it is gone quick. If it has a socket, it's easily sold at 4k-6k.
    2. If it's a rare (yellow) item and has vitality+str/dex/int, I'll sell it for cheap (5k-15k depending on stats), and it's gone quick. If it has a socket, it's easily gone even after adding another 10k-20k to the price.
    3. If it's a rare (yellow) item and has vitality & str/dex/int & magic find/resist all & socket, that's the sort of item you price high 75k-500k+ and wait to hit the jackpot.
    4. If it's a level 60 item but has "level required reduced by xx", you can usually sell this for quite a bit as there aren't many great items available to level 45-55 guys.
    5. Boots with +% movement speed always sell fast.
    6. If it's a weapon and doesn't have a socket, it's worth much less.
    7. If you're selling a weapon and it has a socket, stick a ruby in it so the DPS displayed on the AH menu is higher than unsocketed. Sure, it'll cost you a ruby, so only use one that you definitely don't need. If the weapon has a high dps for the level, vitality+str/dex/int, and a socket.. you can make some big money. If it's a monk fist or 1hd crossbow with +life added per hit in addition to the other good stats, that's quite valuable.
    8. If it's a legendary and has fantastic random stats (some are fixed and some are random), it can be extremely valuable. I have Lut Socks (great MF boots as they have MF/GF/Movement speed as fixed modifiers) that have +vitality, so that's huge.

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    silencer,

    Thank you for your informative post. I haven't been playing as much as I have wanted to, so I haven't taken the time to test things out. I appreciate you answering all my questions in detail. Is HC the mode you primarily play? I used to always jump on around 11pm-12midnight PST, and never had issues with latency. But the other day I jumped on earlier than normal, around 930pm, and I was shocked that my latency was hovering in the high 200s. After a few hours, the latency dropped off considerably to what I am used to, 20-50ms. I was curious where about in the US you are located, and have you had issues with latency?

    All my friends are too pussy to play HC with me.

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    Sorry man, the one time I've been on the PC this week I forgot to PM you. Do you still need it or did you get it from someone else? I'll for sure be on sometime this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -silencer- View Post
    Want a cheese way to level a friend?

    Run Azmodan, leave the friend in town. Do the immediate quest afterward before going to Act 4. This run will take less than 3 minutes. Remake game and repeat. Your friend will go from level 1 to 4 the first time. Takes around 8 runs to get to 10. I'm sure they'll patch it soon where you only get quest reward xp & gold the first time you complete it.. because this is insane.

    Edit:
    You can even warp in with the friend once you get to Azmodan. The friend will have to move around to avoid the slow meteor, but if your dps is high enough, you should be able to down Azmodan before the black pool phase. Don't let your friend run too far away though or he won't get his loot, which is guaranteed to be at least a couple rares on the first drop.
    Disregard. Blizzard nerfed this today to roughly 1/8 of the xp it used to be. Also, they removed most of the rare/champion spawns on the path to Azmodan, so it's not really a decent loot run anymore either. I knew it was coming - just surprised they got it fixed so soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by VeilSide935 View Post
    silencer,

    Thank you for your informative post. I haven't been playing as much as I have wanted to, so I haven't taken the time to test things out. I appreciate you answering all my questions in detail. Is HC the mode you primarily play? I used to always jump on around 11pm-12midnight PST, and never had issues with latency. But the other day I jumped on earlier than normal, around 930pm, and I was shocked that my latency was hovering in the high 200s. After a few hours, the latency dropped off considerably to what I am used to, 20-50ms. I was curious where about in the US you are located, and have you had issues with latency?

    All my friends are too pussy to play HC with me.

    LexusFTW,

    Sorry man, the one time I've been on the PC this week I forgot to PM you. Do you still need it or did you get it from someone else? I'll for sure be on sometime this weekend.
    I've got a softcore wizard up to 55 now in Act 2 Hell, but most of my time is spent on each class in hardcore. I've yet to die in hardcore, and my wizard is now 41. I've only noticed two separate occasions of lag in hardcore, and both times it was immediately apparent as soon as we started the game. I waited about 10 minutes in town clearing up some stash space and it was fine from then on. Softcore is like WoW - watered down and not exciting. Hardcore is like real life - you come within an inch of death and you really appreciate the significance of it all. I don't get an adrenaline rush in softcore, ever. I get it all the time in hardcore, and this goes back to D2 hardcore days. Playing a lot of D2 hardcore over the years has really taught me the value of defense. For D3, I never leave town without at least 2 defensive oh-shit life savers. For example, my current loadout on my hardcore wizard is this:

    Standard map clearing build:
    Electrocute-Chain Lightning (sometimes Lightning Blast)
    Arcane Orb-Arcane Nova
    Hydra-Venom Hydra
    Blizzard-Grasping Chill (Snowbound at level 47)
    Mirror Image-Duplicates
    Diamond Skin-Crystal Shell

    Boss build:
    Magic Missile-Charged Blast
    Arcane Orb-Obliteration (sometimes Tap the Source for lower casting cost)
    Hydra-Venom Hydra
    Blizzard-Grasping Chill (Snowbound at level 47)
    Mirror Image-Duplicates
    Diamond Skin-Crystal Shell

    Passives on both builds are:
    Glass Cannon
    Evocation
    Cold Blooded

    Although Venom Hydra is fucking awesome, I may be forced to drop it in favor of Teleport-Fracture at some point, and I'll probably drop Glass Cannon in favor of Illusionist then too. I can't stress how important both Diamond Skin and Mirror Image are though. DS has saved my hardcore character at least 20 times, and probably more. Mirror Image serves two functions and works for me as both defensive and offensive use. First, to distract the enemy as I make my escape, and second, to get the enemy to stand still long enough to sit in Venom Hydra and Blizzard for more than a few ticks.

    My farming build when playing vastly overgeared maps for max dps looks like this:
    Spectral Blade-Siphoning Blade
    Blizzard-Grasping Chill (Snowbound at 47)
    Meteor-Molten Impact (Meteor Shower at 43), then shift to Hydra-Mammoth Hydra at 56
    Magic Weapon-Force Weapon
    Familiar-Sparkflint
    Slow Time-Time Warp

    Glass Cannon
    Cold Blood
    Conflagration

    Basically built around skills that boost overall damage, and using the synergy of Meteor's fire and Blizzard's cold to amplify the damage through Cold Blood and Conflagration. Spectral Blade is great for not only AoE dps, but also to gain back big chunks of arcane power through Siphoning Blade.

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    ugh I wasn't going to play till my comp was set up and after I purchased another CE but I think I'm going to open it up and get started today. Going to do normal run for the story then get up to speed with HC play.
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    Ugh, on average I get disconnected like twice and hour. Shit is frustrating the hell out of me. Is this an ongoing problem people are still having or is my internet/router just not happy with this game?

    Barely a level 15 Demon Hunter right now. You sure do get shit for drops as far as DH equipment goes. I'm glad I read through some of your guys posts as its helped me make some money and find good weapons in the auction house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlxRSPTT View Post
    Ugh, on average I get disconnected like twice and hour. Shit is frustrating the hell out of me. Is this an ongoing problem people are still having or is my internet/router just not happy with this game?

    Barely a level 15 Demon Hunter right now. You sure do get shit for drops as far as DH equipment goes. I'm glad I read through some of your guys posts as its helped me make some money and find good weapons in the auction house.

    Alex
    have yet to disconnect after 29.5 hours of play. so it may just be you.
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    36 wizard here. currently in nightmare. any decent ways to level up quick now that az has been nerfed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlxRSPTT View Post
    Ugh, on average I get disconnected like twice and hour. Shit is frustrating the hell out of me. Is this an ongoing problem people are still having or is my internet/router just not happy with this game?

    Barely a level 15 Demon Hunter right now. You sure do get shit for drops as far as DH equipment goes. I'm glad I read through some of your guys posts as its helped me make some money and find good weapons in the auction house.

    Alex
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    have yet to disconnect after 29.5 hours of play. so it may just be you.
    Same. I've had no problems with being disconnected. If anything, I've been surprised how well the game has performed, as most of the time I forget I'm even playing online when I'm soloing content. As for DH gear, you'll find a lot more 1hd crossbows starting around level 15-20. Stick with 2hd for now - they do a lot more damage per hit, especially with skills scaling off a % of base damage. Rapid Fire is one of the few early skills that really benefits from faster 1hd bows. Most of the big hitters, like Impale and Bola Shot, I prefer a big hitting 2hd bow, as it's more effective use of the same hatred cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by RussianMKIV View Post
    36 wizard here. currently in nightmare. any decent ways to level up quick now that az has been nerfed?
    You can still run normal Az for decent xp. I run him occasionally on my 41 hardcore wizard and I get 12k for his quest, then you get a decent chunk for completing the first quest in Act 4 after killing the rare spawn at the beginning with the 60+ shadow beasts. If you're in nightmare, the content from Act 1 beginning through skeleton king is super easy, so you can farm that area while building up your blacksmith/jewelcrafter pages and gems.. in addition to the quest xp you'll be getting on every run. I'm about to make another nightmare Butcher run on my 41 wizard.. he's easy enough, especially with a templar follower with 14k hp.

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    is the AH buggy for you guys? i just tried to buy like 5 different items and it times out><

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianMKIV View Post
    is the AH buggy for you guys? i just tried to buy like 5 different items and it times out><
    Careful. I had that happen, and it turned out I actually purchased all those items, but the message only said it timed out. It just took a few minutes to show up in my stash. Thankfully I was able to resell the unwanted ones for a small profit. This is part of the reason the RMAH is being delayed - they want to completely fix all issues with the gold AH first. You can imagine the shitstorm they'd have if this sort of thing was happening with real $.

    Also, sometimes it times out because the item was sold to someone else after you did the search, but before you made the purchase. Try refreshing the search and see if that's the case.

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    yup, thats exactly what happened to me... 120k gold spent on 5 items in the same slot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal_K View Post
    How many times did you find rare high-level items in Diablo 2 that could have been great, but had truly useless mods like +light radius or +3 life? They removed shitty mods, and I'm thankful for that. While I agree that currently, blue weapons scale too greatly for dps due to the +elemental damage being added to the base damage BEFORE stat & skill % modifiers are applied. Diablo 2 applied the +elemental damage AFTER the weapon attack skill's modified %. I think they'll fix this problem, which will drastically reduce the value of a lot of blue/rare weapons in comparison to many legendaries. However, a lot of people seem to have a very limited memory of Diablo 2. *Most* set items and uniques in Diablo 2 were truly fucking worthless. They had fixed attributes, and mostly fixed values on those attributes. What Diablo 3 improves upon, is to allow legendaries to have a few random attributes, so they have the potential of being either relatively shitty, or fucking amazing.

    What I think Blizzard will do, is to introduce a higher tier of values for all affixes capable of being on a legendary. So if the top +damage tier for a blue is +100-400 damage, a rare might get +150-500, and a legendary would have +200-600 as a possibility. The problem is that so many blues drop and so few legendaries, people currently expect every legendary to be absolutely badass. If you look at the level requirement of most sub-60 legendaries, they're usually better than most blues capable of being in that slot.

    The main problem I see, is that it's come to where having +vitality is a make or break deal on gear. They should either have all legendaries have some amount of vitality by default, or completely remove vitality from being an affix on certain gear slots (like weapons/off-hands).

    It's not like Blizzard has never tweaked itemization before. Dual-leech rings were gone in D2X. I personally have *zero* problem with having linear gear as far as level requirement to equip gear of a certain power level. I thought it was fucking retarded that you could equip a full Sigon's set to a level 6 character and wipe the floor with pretty much entire normal difficulty. I can't stand WoW. I love D2. However, for the most part, I do agree with most decisions made regarding Diablo 3, and I fully expect Blizzard to tweak itemization so that legendaries have a better chance at being consistently good, and the total possibility of being far better than any blue item is capable of.

    As for the auction house, so what? The video's narrator uses heroin as an example, but a more appropriate comparison would be alcohol prohibition. People who are going to spend real money to buy items are going to do it. I have no problem with Blizzard taking a cut (our government regulates alcohol, but it's better than a black market like D2JSP), as keeping servers is far more expensive than a $60 game can allow. I'd much rather not have random people joining my games to spam their item/gold sales websites, because they will be undercut by Blizzard's RMAH. The online-only requirement means they also won't have the ability to dupe to create this surplus of shit to sell. All of these aspects are positives in my book for Diablo 3, and big negatives about Diablo 2.

    Are we so forgetful about D2 though? What was frequently seen as the best weapon that wasn't a runeword (which was usually only possible through trading for duped runes)? A Zod-socketed ethereal blue weapon with massive +damage modifiers (Cruel affix was up to +300% I think). The best potential weapon in Diablo 2 was a blue, so what's the problem here? Sure, we don't have +skills. We have +main stat instead. We don't have "of the Whale" - we've got +vitality. +Resist all is still here. The majority of bitching about itemization is simply because it's not the same as Diablo 2. I'd argue that it's better now, but not that it's perfect. That could be fixed by allowing rares to have higher affix values than blues, and legendaries to have even higher affix values than rares. Add in giving legendaries guaranteed +vit & +main stat affixes with (high) random values, and you're guaranteed that legendaries will be very valuable even at their worst possible rolls, and fucking godly near the best possible rolls.

    Also, I'm hearing people bitch about bosses not dropping shit. To that I say, thank fucking god. Boss runs for loot feel like a damn job, and aren't fun because they're too easy with no variability. On the other hand, I get a real challenge out of some of the champion and rare packs and affixes, and chasing treasure goblins into unknown and heavily populated parts of the map. Please, name a boss in Diablo 2 that is more of a challenge than the Vortex + Arcane Enchanted + Shielding packs I've seen in D3. The greater the challenge, the greater the reward should be. That's how the shift from D2 went to D3 in going from bosses to rare/champion packs. I totally agree with shifting the best loot drops away from bosses and into more random aspects of the game. It's not a thousand hours of repetitive Meph runs, and I couldn't be happier for this shift. I think quite a few people bitching about this are just mad that they can't load up a bot and come home from school to an inventory full of loot.

    Blizzard should have hired me as one of the programmers & game designers about 5 years ago and there'd be much less bitching about a system that is better than D2, but still needs some tweaking. It's definitely far from "broken" though. Yeah, you can't stack 1000% MF like D2, but that's a good thing. You can quite easily get to 100%, which is how MF should have been in D2 in the first place.

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    Every time I see a rare drop.. I say YELLO - OH YEAH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -silencer- View Post
    Same. I've had no problems with being disconnected. If anything, I've been surprised how well the game has performed, as most of the time I forget I'm even playing online when I'm soloing content. As for DH gear, you'll find a lot more 1hd crossbows starting around level 15-20. Stick with 2hd for now - they do a lot more damage per hit, especially with skills scaling off a % of base damage. Rapid Fire is one of the few early skills that really benefits from faster 1hd bows. Most of the big hitters, like Impale and Bola Shot, I prefer a big hitting 2hd bow, as it's more effective use of the same hatred cost.
    I've asked a few local guys and they have been getting randomly timed out from the servers as well.

    I've stuck with the two handed bows so far, even if I get a marginally better crossbow. Love bola shot. Some of the higher skill slots are kinda shitty, like the grenade crap? No thanks.

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    my tag is madrussian#1536 btw

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    After playing in hell mode for awhile now I've run into some pretty redic combos for elites and uniques. Most of which I don't even bother with and just restart the game. Tell me how I'm supposed to kill a vampiric/fast/invurnable minion unique?? Not to mention they take about 1/5 of my health with every hit. Shit like this is just annoying an honestly ruins the game for me.

    I know whaa whaa cry some more but honestly. It's even worse in group games with 3-4 people

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    silencer, i like reading all your diablo posts, it is well-written and thought out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anotherkidyouown View Post
    After playing in hell mode for awhile now I've run into some pretty redic combos for elites and uniques. Most of which I don't even bother with and just restart the game. Tell me how I'm supposed to kill a vampiric/fast/invurnable minion unique?? Not to mention they take about 1/5 of my health with every hit. Shit like this is just annoying an honestly ruins the game for me.

    I know whaa whaa cry some more but honestly. It's even worse in group games with 3-4 people
    I find it easier to take out these big groups in 3-4 player games, even with the higher health pools they have. 4 people means there are 4 different targets for mobs to go after (or much more with minions/mirror image/etc), which really helps to soak up the damage while all 4 focus fire on individual targets. The game is supposed to be a challenge, and some combos of affixes naturally present a very difficult situation. Sometimes it's easier to run past certain groups, but how is that any different than D2 where you could have the Multiple Shot, Lightning Enchanted, Extra Strong packs? You avoid them. Sometimes I've come across some groups that were virtually impossible to get beyond without multiple deaths, so yes, then you can simply create a new game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yme View Post
    silencer, i like reading all your diablo posts, it is well-written and thought out.
    Thanks.. the Diablo franchise has been my favorite since the original was released during my senior year of high school. I still have my D2 Collector's Edition. While I initially wasn't happy with many of the changes from D2 to D3, I do understand and now appreciate most of them as improving the game. D2 was great, but it still had a lot of flaws. I find it rather amusing that all these "professional" game review websites all state that online-only is their biggest reason for heavily lowering their review score of the game, yet their largest complaint about D2 was hacks and dupes. They're a bunch of simpletons who don't have a clue how software engineering is a shitload of pro/con decisions that must be made, and to fully eliminate the dupes that ruined the D2 economy and gaming experience, they HAD to have online-only in a true client-server architecture like WoW does. The whole anti-piracy argument wasn't made by Blizzard, and while I'm sure they appreciate a reduction in piracy, their main focus has been to not need ladder resets every 6 months to fail at attempting a clean economy. Without duping available, item selling websites don't have a reason to spam the shit out of public games every 5 seconds. With the RMAH, gold sellers won't need to do that either. All positives to every player who plays online with friends.

    How many of these gaming review sites are bitching that WoW is online-only? D3 will be paying your subscription for you through RMAH profits, and they've said for years it was going to be online-only. There was no bait and switch, so if you didn't like it before, you could always go play Torchlight, made by a few of the guys who founded Blizzard North, the studio that made D1 & D2. Yeah, you can't play offline like you could with D2, but that's a trade off I'm fully willing to make to eliminate the problem of dupes for the online community.

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    I'm fucking done with this game. Between single-player lag and the inability for me to play multiple times due to my connection going in and out I'm beyond frustrated and sick of this shit.

    Torchlight on the other hand has been very kind to me and I'm definitely looking forward to Torchlight 2!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -silencer- View Post
    D3 will be paying your subscription for you through RMAH profits,
    So many people on the forums are bitching about the RMAH, personally i wont use it, but if pays for my subscription, then im fine with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.nosidda View Post
    So many people on the forums are bitching about the RMAH, personally i wont use it, but if pays for my subscription, then im fine with it.
    Exactly. Who are they trying to fool? In D2, if people wanted to buy items with real money, they did it through 3rd party sites. What's worse? Buying duped items through 3rd party sites in D2, or buying legit items on a RMAH in D3? At least the loot farmed in D3 will have to be found, so there's not a fake market like D2 had. 99.99% of people with Enigma or Breath of the Dying in D2 wouldn't have had it without dupes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupraPete View Post
    I'm fucking done with this game. Between single-player lag and the inability for me to play multiple times due to my connection going in and out I'm beyond frustrated and sick of this shit.

    Torchlight on the other hand has been very kind to me and I'm definitely looking forward to Torchlight 2!
    I can understand, I must have gotten about a thousand 3007 errors. Still, I play the game

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.nosidda View Post
    So many people on the forums are bitching about the RMAH, personally i wont use it, but if pays for my subscription, then im fine with it.
    Personally, I can see myself using the rmah, within reason.

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