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    Real-world wait times for NFA items...

    Alright guys - I've heard a myriad of responses from all kinds of people, and I'm tired of the shit.

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    "You'll see it in 4 months."
    "Oh yeah, how do you know?"
    "I had a friend that ordered his..."
    "So?"
    "So, he got his in 4 months..."
    "What, exactly, did your friend order, and what state does he reside? Any clue as to his situation (Family Trust vs. fingerprinting/Sheriff)?"
    "He got a machine gun. He's in Oregon."
    "Thanks - you've been really helpful, as the only correlation that seems to be present, is the fact that your friend applied for an NFA item, in another state, for something that I haven't a clue as to what you're talking about. *Machine Gun*, lol..."

    This is what I'm talking about ^... I'd like some real-world answers. I've used the NFA "When will my stamp go through" chart, but it's varied wildly, as much as the answers that I've gotten.

    Facts, for your consideration:

    I haven't called yet - it's been only a short while.

    Short while = I bought the Suppressor and paid the stamp at the gun shop at the same time.

    I was fingerprinted and had my local Sr. LEO sign off, and returned all of my paperwork to the gun shop to be mailed off (this is what they wanted - I thought that I could do it myself?) on last Thursday (5-28-11).

    I've never been denied a firearms purchase, etc. (someone said that supposedly, if you've been popped and denied a purchase, it'll take longer. I've never heard of this.)



    So, what do you Class III people think? I had planned on this thing taking around 3 months. With TN being my residence, and the gun shop that I do business with really knowing their Class III stuff (no bungling of paperwork, etc, which is why I go there, for the no-nonsense attitude and quality of customer assistance), I was hoping to be in the ballpark of 3 months from the time of paperwork filing. Too hopeful?
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    2-3 months seems to be the norm right now if everything is in order. Most of the paperwork at the shop is dating back to March and April. It will also depend on who your examiner is. There are only 10 or 11 that do all the approvals. I think Sandra Snook is probably the slowest. My examiner is Dana Pickles and he is pretty quick. So is Santamaria

    I just picked up my Ops Inc M4S the other week and it took exactly 60 days. I sent in the paperwork on 3/18 and it was approved 5/13 and then a couple of days out to me from the WV ATF office.

    This time last year, it was 4-5 months.


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    My friend recently got his AAC 762 can approved. It took him 120 days start to finish, but that day count started with the day he bought it and includes going to get the sheriff to sign off on it. My check was cashed in late March and I'm still waiting. Getting a trust is the way to go to save time and make the process more simple.

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    Thanks guys - that's what I figured. I'm eagerly awaiting my AAC can, and hope to be able to fuck around with it sooner than later.

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    Three months is an optimistic figure. I still have stuff submitted in January that has not been approved. Usually it is around 3 but anywhere from 3-6 is not surprising.
    ^ my guy in FL that specializes in Class III.

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    Moody, you going to be at the AAC Silencer Shoot this weekend?

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    My SBR conversion on a PS90 was 62 days. This was with a Trust as the CLEO refused to sign my form. I just sent the barrel off to be cut, threaded and engraved today. My last suppressor was 64 days which was a little over a month ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G View Post
    Moody, you going to be at the AAC Silencer Shoot this weekend?
    Christ - I wish. I got really excited about it when I heard about it, as it's a 2.5 hour drive for me. Upon planning, as usual, other things got in the way, so I'll just be relegated to looking up pics on the gun forums, now. Sucks, too. I've heard that it's just awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhepburn View Post
    My SBR conversion on a PS90 was 62 days. This was with a Trust as the CLEO refused to sign my form. I just sent the barrel off to be cut, threaded and engraved today. My last suppressor was 64 days which was a little over a month ago.
    They can legally do that? As I've understood it, a Sr. LEO basically has to, unless given reason to believe that there is a problem with your background/person/etc. Here, they don't even talk to you - you just drop it off and pick it up later (as I've understood it, this varies wildly, from having to meet the applicant, to simply just turning it in).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moody View Post
    They can legally do that? As I've understood it, a Sr. LEO basically has to, unless given reason to believe that there is a problem with your background/person/etc. Here, they don't even talk to you - you just drop it off and pick it up later (as I've understood it, this varies wildly, from having to meet the applicant, to simply just turning it in).
    Legally no, technically yes. He has refused to sign any Form 1/4's in "his jurisdiction". Sure, I could take the case to Court and fight him. Or, I can setup a Trust and bypass him and all of his BS politics for the rest of my life. The Trust was way easier.

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    Moody-Which class 3 dealer do you use in Tn? I know On Target is a class 3. I am thinking about getting an aac can in a month or so after I get my usp tactical.
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    I was over on silencerforum and they were talking about times varying widely. It's basically down to your examiner. Who you get is based on alphabetic classification. So if you name your trust "the wrong" thing, you might get stuck with a slow moving examiner. Also, when you send a check and see that they've deposited it, it's just an indication that your paperwork has been received and has gone into "pending". I saw that they only have 14 people in that department and 1 or 2 of them are designated to handle incoming inquiries. Some guys have gotten approved in 6 weeks.

    Kaw, does your guy usually have fast turn around times or do they vary?

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    95BlackTT - sorry for the delay in response. I use Outpost Armory for everything. I'm not really fond of On Target, so I tend to take my business elsewhere. Outpost is THE place to go, to get what you want, and good information to facilitate a decision.

    Update: No transfer, yet. Still waiting.

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    I bought a AAC m4 2000 on may 14th, the ATF cashed the check on May 20th it got approved on September 28th and the stamp was at the shop on September 30th. I live in Georgia and used a trust. This one took about a month longer than my last suppresor

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    Thanks for the information, Josh. I am still waiting on mine. Luckily, one of the employees at the shop knows who I am, and what I ordered (friend of a friend), so I don't have to wait for someone to rifle through miscellaneous paperwork, trying to figure out who I am, what I ordered, and what they did with it. Still no answer, though, and I'm hoping that it's not going to be some 6-month horror-story... We're already at 5, now. ;

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    Looks like it will be getting slower and slower. 3 new states are approved for suppressors and the gov has a hiring freeze. It looks like 4-5 month waits are going to be the norm now.

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    ^ Yeah, that's what I was afraid of... Oh well, at least mine's been in for a little while. The next one will be a real wait, I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G View Post
    Looks like it will be getting slower and slower. 3 new states are approved for suppressors and the gov has a hiring freeze. It looks like 4-5 month waits are going to be the norm now.
    What are the 3 new states?
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    Michigan, Washington (you can use) and Missouri (C&R no longer needed)

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    I just received my tax stamp on the latest NFA item. Took exactly 120 days from the time the check was cashed until the approved form was dropped in the mail. I think 4-5 month wait times are going to be the norm nowadays.

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    Update from FL, I am on week 3 of my wait for my first NFA item. The wait is killing me!
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    Any recommendations for filing in the bay area? Did you do yours thru a trust on your own, or lawyer or what?

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    Man I really wish Iowa would approve suppressors. Fuck

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    Al-fucking-RIGHT! It's here. I go to pick it up tomorrow. Pictures coming.

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