TT intake on an NA Supra anyone????

[gfallon]

i would get a 1j before i put that in my supra

[Jeff See]

i would get a 1j before i put that in my supra

+1

[xm 1]

talking about the intake guys

[gfallon]

i got my intake in today!
but he put the n/a throttle body flange on it, not the tt like i wanted. this is were my laziness comes into play, i just assumed the tt was larger because it is larger at the front (tt has a 3 inch mouth). so i can get a 1uz from a friend for free (70mm) or i can save up and get an 80mm from the intake guy latter (just run the n/a for now) what are your thoughts?
also i will be at Huston this week and will try to get on the dyno. so i will have a before and after dyno, just not sure when i will be able to get back to dyno after

[Carlos Brown]

Gfallon,

So you are telling me that the TT throttle body is a larger diameter than the NA throttle body? Are you sure? The NA TB is ~65mm, if memory serves me correct. I have never seen specs on the TT TB, however... As far as the flange goes, you can always open it up to match the desired gasket or ID...

That 1UZ TB is huge - I would work on something smaller...

Regards,

Carlos

[fastandthefurious305]

While I agree that a tt intake on na would look cooler and avoid the headache of removing the whole damn na intake to change out spark plugs and injectors I dont know if it is really worth it. Some guys say you actually lose some low end torque and gain high end. I think the easier route would just go with an aftermarket intake that will be a direct fit instead of the whole hassle of modification. But if you dead set on it I say go for it.

[herb]

xm 1,

I posted a few pics of my 2JZ build, which is nearly complete. As you can see, it has the dreaded FFIM on it which will accept an 80mm TB. The car is nearly complete afterwhich time I will log some dyno time for tuning. Given that I was able to squeeze 193 RWHP out of my old 5MGE, I am expecting around 250 RWHP on this motor...

Gfallon, I am looking forward to seeing that Intake...

Regards,

Carlos

Hi Carlos!

It's been some time since you posted that pics on here.
Just wanted to ask if there's any news on your built 2JZ-GE?
As I'm a big fan of the normally aspirated 2JZ I'd be very interested in some news on this...

best regards and greetings from europe,

Herbert

[xm 1]

+1000000000000000 on updates

[Carlos Brown]

Gentlemen,

The car is pretty much done, I have just been waiting on a set of cooling fans and a shroud. I think the stand-alone is pretty well wired up as well... However, since I have been waiting on that one critical piece, I kind of put it on the back burner for the moment. The supplier contacted me several days ago and said that they should be back on track with stock very soon, though...

I will update with some pics then!

Regards,

Carlos

[xm 1]

keep us updated carlos

btw. does anyone know what that butterfly valve in the oem intake is good for????or let's keep it this way when does it close itself?? at low or high rpm?

[Mr Ree NZ]

Its good for changing the characteristics of the intake airflow.

From my underatanding, it is closed at high revs, and open at low revs

[gfallon]

nope its closed at low rpm, to create longer runners giving better power down low. it opens at 4,000 rpm, making a larger volume plenum and better power up top.
not sure how much power. but i can break out the g-tech and see what it shows as the difference

[xm 1]

i personally think this could be the holy grail for the NA guys a new intake....so where are such companies like HKS, JUN, Tomei or even Cosworth?????? this could be a top seller!!!! i would def. buy one!!!!!!

[xm 1]

i already thought about building an intake which uses 2 throttle bodies....one for 3 cylinders. not sure if this could be a good solution, but comes closer to the ITB's than anything else. f++k europe....if i only lived in the US i already had my ITB's on!!!!!!!!!

[2muchboost]

I tried going the TT FFIM and NA head route but its a headache. From my readings the only FFIM that could work because of the port designs is the JDM TT FFIM....I could be wrong. I ended up going with XS FFIM which is still brand new in box and now decided to change direction on the project lol. So if anyone wants the bolt on FFIM that XS offers shoot me a pm.

I need to make up my mind on what direction im heading in with this project.

[Mr Ree NZ]

The best direction to take would be as far away from xspower parts as possible.

[herb]

Yes pics would be great

Gentlemen,

The car is pretty much done, I have just been waiting on a set of cooling fans and a shroud. I think the stand-alone is pretty well wired up as well... However, since I have been waiting on that one critical piece, I kind of put it on the back burner for the moment. The supplier contacted me several days ago and said that they should be back on track with stock very soon, though...

I will update with some pics then!

Regards,

Carlos

[2muchboost]

The XS power FFIM is not a bad design at all especially if you weld in the lower runners instead of bolting them in.....granted it is by now way even close to the custom FFIM you see above or those which are $1000+...but for a low budget price it was a decent bargain.

Very nice FFIM above and I too would like to see that project finished.

[superstock]

i personally think this could be the holy grail for the NA guys a new intake....so where are such companies like HKS, JUN, Tomei or even Cosworth?????? this could be a top seller!!!! i would def. buy one!!!!!!

Never happen!!! They have all done their research and know that they can't substantially improve on the OEM part. The varyable volume plenum not only improves low end torque by having a smaller volume it also isolates each induction pulse. Every large volume FFIM I have seen would be a loss on an NA. Runners are too short, plenum volume too large, cylinder to cylinder induction robbing and varying airflow across the runners. Of course if you are revving the engine to 9000+rpm and don't care about driveability or have a big boost NA-t disregard what I have said.

[kiro1968@yahoo.com]

I tried going the TT FFIM and NA head route but its a headache. From my readings the only FFIM that could work because of the port designs is the JDM TT FFIM....I could be wrong......

Does not fit, Aristo 2jzgte upper intake manifold does not fit on the USDM 2jzge lower intake runner. Port spacing/pattern does not match, bolt locations does not match either. Aristo 2jzgte upper intake manifold is slightly shorter vs the USDM 2jzge upper intake manifold.

Yes I know this to be true since I have an Aristo 2jzgte upper intake manifold sitting in the garage and yes I tested on my USDM 2jzge that is sitting on a pallet in the back yard.

^_^