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    Correct Wheel Offset Size for Varrstoen on Supra MKIV

    Hi guys, im buying new wheels I'm choosing 18" Varrstoen 2.2.1 Matte Black


    http://www.varrstoen.com.au/shop/2-2...ims-wheels-18i

    I need to choose offsets but I'm not sure what will fit correctly and the last thing I want to do is end up with useless wheels laying around and having to resell them.

    so just asking the experts

    The Selection is
    Front: 18x9.5
    Rear: 18x10.5

    offsets available: 12, 15, 22, 30, 34

    Any of the wheel experts know what offset is best suited for those wheels and what will fit correctly?

    Thanks for the help.

    Cheers

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    The closest will be the 34, but that may not be enough depending on your fender mods. For reference Volk TE37's in Supra offset, in those sizes are +40/+45, F/R. The fronts most likely will be ok, but the rears will definitely require a fender roll, and/or a stretched tire.

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    Everything is stock at the moment, I dont mind rolling the guards.

    What tyres would fit on the front and rear if i was to go for a 34 on both front and rear.

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    I don't want to comment directly on the sizes as I'm no expert at this tire sizing to fit our fenders.

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    Thanks Alex I appreciate the help mate!!

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    What size tires were you hoping to run?

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    Rear: 255 or 265 or 275
    Front: 235 or 245

    thoughts?

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    I can't give you a complete answer but this comparison might help you since I have 18" X 9.5"F and 10.5"R, both +45 offset and with no fender mods the widest tires I could fit without any contact or interference of any kind was 265/35F and 285/35R. With the +34 offset your wheels will stick outward from the fender another 11mm further than mine. So if you are willing to roll the front and back fenders (mine now have the lips cut off due to my wider CCW wheels in sig below) that should give you the clearance you need for the tire sizes I use. If you're willing to run more camber and/or maybe pull the fenders a bit, even the +30's can probably be made to fit but that type of fitment is not for me so I can't say for sure.
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    I wouldn't recommend those offsets at all. If you do buy the wheels, your best bet would be the +34mm offset with a 255/35R18 front and 285/30R18 rear.

    The 255/35R18 will have better clearance than the 245/40R18 due to the height of the tire.

    You may want to go with a 285/35R18 rear tire, as it will give you better straight line traction, but you may not like the looks of having 1" taller rear tire.

    With the sizes above, you will have to roll/cut your rear fender lip.

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    would it be okay if i was to go 245/35R18 Front and 265/30R/18 Rear, because my supra is only a SZ-R at the moment gutless and being a street car for the moment? *shy face*

    As long as the tyres remain in the 30-35 height ill be okay for clearance?

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    do you have TT brakes in the front? I called that company and asked what offset I would need to clear the TT brakes he said +22, but +22 is aggressive as hell might not even clear the fender.

    Call them see what they say
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    I've got 2/1 (small brakes) but in the later future I may upgrade to 4/2 so id like the flexibility of having them also fit to big brakes

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    You need +22 to clear the big brakes. Somewhere I read that you even might need a 5mm spacer in the front making it +17.
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    As far as I can remember, they did not clear TT brakes and you had to use a spacer for +35mm wheels.

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    Here are my Old (now discontiuned in this offset) TE37s in 19x10.5 +35 with a 275/35 tire:



    Fronts were 8.5 +22 as those were the only ones I can find with a slight concave that still fit.





    Here are 19X10.5 +22 with the same tire: (sorry for the crappy pics) These looked the best IMO, but I would have had to put on a smaller tire which was no bueno.



    9.5+22:





    Go here to put in your sizes then compare....

    http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farouk View Post
    would it be okay if i was to go 245/35R18 Front and 265/30R/18 Rear, because my supra is only a SZ-R at the moment gutless and being a street car for the moment? *shy face*

    As long as the tyres remain in the 30-35 height ill be okay for clearance?
    It's not about power, it's about handling. The NA is still a 3,400 lb. car and need a lot of tire. I would mount a 245 or smaller tire on a 9.5" wheel regardless.

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    So I shouldn't mount a tyre smaller than 245 on a 9.5" wheel? and no smaller than 265 on a 10.5" wheel?

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    Go to tire rack.com. You will see what the max and min wheel width is for a certain tire.

    Most manufacturers will list a minimum 245 for a 9.5" wheel, I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

    Later, Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farouk View Post
    Hi guys, im buying new wheels I'm choosing 18" Varrstoen 2.2.1 Matte Black


    http://www.varrstoen.com.au/shop/2-2...ims-wheels-18i

    I need to choose offsets but I'm not sure what will fit correctly and the last thing I want to do is end up with useless wheels laying around and having to resell them.

    so just asking the experts

    The Selection is
    Front: 18x9.5
    Rear: 18x10.5

    offsets available: 12, 15, 22, 30, 34

    Any of the wheel experts know what offset is best suited for those wheels and what will fit correctly?

    Thanks for the help.

    Cheers
    I haven't even read the replies in this thread but here is what I can tell you...

    The back spacing of the rim will hit the Twin Turbo calipers.
    So basically Varrstoen wheels do not fit the Supra.
    The only offset that clears the Twin Turbo brakes is +12.

    Even with a +22 (the Varrstoen model I have clear TT brakes), I still was required to custom pull my front and rear fenders a lot (about 20-25mm).

    Also even though Varrstoen has those offsets listed, they rarely will have them available, or pretty much never.
    They mostly over the +12 or +22 offset.

    If you have the smaller 2/1 pot brakes, then the +22 will fit but you will still need to run smaller/streched tires.


    Fyi I run 255/35 19x9.5 +22 front
    and 285/30 19x10.5 +22 rear
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    Just buy correct offsets and be done with it, a 9.5" wheel deserves atleast a 265, and a 10.5" deserves at absolute minimum a 285. Any smaller, and sorry to the ones who have done it, look like vdub stretched tire shit. If the widest part of your tire is where it contacts the rim, it looks like shit. Period. Sorry a nice looking supra still can't pull that stretched shit off.
    If the wheel you want doesn't have the correct offsets, don't modify your car to make them fit. Modify your taste and do it right.
    Stretched tire = ANY tire that the widest part is where it contacts the rim
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    Quote Originally Posted by slither View Post
    Just buy correct offsets and be done with it, a 9.5" wheel deserves atleast a 265, and a 10.5" deserves at absolute minimum a 285. Any smaller, and sorry to the ones who have done it, look like vdub stretched tire shit. If the widest part of your tire is where it contacts the rim, it looks like shit. Period. Sorry a nice looking supra still can't pull that stretched shit off.
    If the wheel you want doesn't have the correct offsets, don't modify your car to make them fit. Modify your taste and do it right.
    Stretched tire = ANY tire that the widest part is where it contacts the rim
    +1. Buy the correct size wheels and tires for your car. Ah the good old days when this tire stretch nonsense was non-existent.

    Also, my front wheels are a 18x9 +42 and clear supra brakes. You dont need a low offset for brake clearance if the wheels were made for the car.
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    Well in looking into these wheels,
    So I would need 18x8.5 or 9.5 +22 with 5mm spacer to clear front tt brakes
    Or 18x8.5 +15 offset? Would that be flush up front?
    For rear 18x10.5 + 30 would clear the rear calipers correct ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Jarvis View Post
    It's not about power, it's about handling. The NA is still a 3,400 lb. car and need a lot of tire. I would mount a 245 or smaller tire on a 9.5" wheel regardless.

    Later, Steve
    I think I know why he was confused, up above here you said you would mount a 245 or smaller on a 9.5" wheel, which really doesn't make sense. But down below you clarified saying that you really would not use a 245 or smaller on a 9.5" wheel based on tire data from the manufacturers. I think that is where the OP's confusion came in from a simple typo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Jarvis View Post
    Go to tire rack.com. You will see what the max and min wheel width is for a certain tire.

    Most manufacturers will list a minimum 245 for a 9.5" wheel, I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

    Later, Steve


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    I want those wheels too, but I dont know, which is the size that I need to look raz?

    I have a Supra mk IV NA
    Last edited by jmezam; 02-26-2013 at 11:07 AM.

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    I am talking with the varrstoen´ dealer and he told me the offset that I need for my MK4 NA is 19" x 9.5 + 22 front and 19" x 10.5+30 rear with a tire 245-35-19 front and 285-30-19

    it will looks flush in the supra???

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