Another turbo you guys might be overlooking is the 7275 CEA. We've made right under 1,100whp and then 1,200whp with a small dry shot of nitrous with that turbo. Spool isn't too much different either. Here's a graph showing four different runs from three different cars/setups for comparison's sake.
RunFile003 -- PTE 7275, 3.0L, 10:1, S2 cams, Hypertune, no nitrous
RunFile016 -- Same setup as above with 100 shot jets, single fogger dry kit
RunFile010 -- PTE 7275, 3.0L, 10:1, S2 cams, Sleeper Designs intake
RunFile018 -- PTE 6766, 1.32 a/r, stock block, S2 cams, stock intake
You can see the 7275 with nitrous spools almost identically to a 6766 but makes nearly 400 more wheel horsepower. And the two all-boost 7275 setups aren't THAT far behind in terms of spool in comparison. None of these setups had a QSV nor VVTI head. With those two in place and/or a 3.4L bottom end, the 7275 is definitely a viable option that won't sacrifice a ton of spool for some serious horsepower gains. Even without, it's a good compromise to pick up 200+ whp over a 6766 while not sacrificing drivability.
If you're already maxing out a 6766, moving up to a 6870 doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
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Thanks for chiming in Matt. That is an interesting comparison.
Matt what housing is on the 7275?
Can u post those dynos in spd. Thanks.
4 digits on pump&meth is not impossible (low boost)
Real hp is measured at the wheels.
My car (3.4L, 10:1, e85, qsv), did 960whp/970wtq with the 6766, and 1115/1100 (iirc) with the 7275 (no other changes but turbo swap).
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Yea, thinking I'll stick to the 6766 and switch to the divided housing. After speaking to several friends that experienced main cap failures with turbos bigger than the 6766, I don't want to risk it. I do have a built motor, but I didn't use billet mains. I think the QSV will give me the more broad power curve I am after.
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Will a stud girdle hold the early torque?
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Ryan, notice I said "iirc". I know it was in that neighborhood. I remember remarking at the time that although tq wasn't greater than hp as with the 67, it was very close. and the hp was 1115 for sure.
it also made 1005 ft-lbs with the 86, and that was probably 1500-2k rpm higher.
For most everyone else, the QSV doesn't create a prerequisite for billet main caps. Think of it as running one size smaller turbo than you're really running (that's a little bit unfair because it also tweaks the curve as well but you get the idea). Tuning also becomes very important in this aspect as well.
Can't believe it's been 4 years. Most of those Supras have bone through several builds since then lol.