Project 2JZ in a 350Z - Page 4

TONYSUPRA · 12-17-2007, 02:02 PM

I love NISSSAN and TOYOTA. JAPAN FTMFW!!!

AlxRSPTT · 12-17-2007, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashivr4

it's because they need to do all kind of stuff to just the block to handle that power, but last time i checked the 4.2L stroked short block was going to cust less than 10k and that's really cheap.

I know what goes into building a Z engine, I used to watch someone do it almost every day, and check in on the Z forums every so often. I just chuckled thinking of the situation.

Alex

seeya · 12-18-2007, 04:39 PM

Saw this car in person today and it sounded and looked sweeeeet!

Lith · 12-18-2007, 06:25 PM

Very cool project - I love a decent straight six with a huge turbo, though its a bit like putting an RB26 into a Supra.... ie, a downgrade. Makes sense if you are sticking with what you know however.

slyvki · 12-18-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by agent89

I finally got the factory gauges and AC controls to work. What a wiring nightmare.

does this include the gauge that displays gas mileage/distance to empty/speed in digital format/tire pressure/etc? do all the functions of that gauge work?

Steve Theodore · 12-18-2007, 09:58 PM

If you're referring to the loss of displacement, I agree. However, I'd call that somehat of a debatable statement overall depending on what your goals and/or budget are. Inline 6's are pretty remarkable motors, and since they don't really build many anymore in the Japanese family, I'd say there is something pretty cool about this swap.

It looks really terrific too! Nicely done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lith

Very cool project - I love a decent straight six with a huge turbo, though its a bit like putting an RB26 into a Supra.... ie, a downgrade. Makes sense if you are sticking with what you know however.

agent89 · 12-18-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyvki

does this include the gauge that displays gas mileage/distance to empty/speed in digital format/tire pressure/etc? do all the functions of that gauge work?

Yes.. I am waiting on a oil pressure sensor to make the center oil pressure gauge work, but the rest of them function as normal with the exception of the tach. I am still trying to come up with a solution for it.

Martin

begone · 12-18-2007, 10:23 PM

This is a cool swap, and I don't understand why these VQ Fans are getting so Butt hurt.

What's amazing is that there are lots of folks out there that still want and do - transplant the 2jz into their platforms because of how great of an engine it is....These things are 10+ years old now!

Is there other engines out there that are that highly regarded for their power potential and ease of availability and uses? LSx Maybe?

agent89 · 12-18-2007, 10:27 PM

Here is the first quick vid shot today. Just doing some base AF tuning with these huge injectors and driveability. Once clutch is broken in, we will do some full passes. Mainly posting this because people wanted to hear the exhaust note.

Click here to watch Tuning-for-AF-and-Driveability

Martin

doug · 12-18-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by begone

This is a cool swap, and I don't understand why these VQ Fans are getting so Butt hurt.

What's amazing is that there are lots of folks out there that still want and do - transplant the 2jz into their platforms because of how great of an engine it is....These things are 10+ years old now!

Is there other engines out there that are that highly regarded for their power potential and ease of availability and uses? LSx Maybe?

the 2JZ is 2 years older than the VQ.. and the reason why i'm 'Butt Hurt' is because of the statement that you need a 2JZ to make a 350z fast.. and thats incorrect and insulting.. but Martin already explained he was being political to keep you 2JZ lovers happy.

agent89 · 12-18-2007, 11:17 PM

I try to play the side of the fence I am posting on always. It is good business sense really. It gets people riled up and wanting to do more insane projects like this. Like I said on the Z forum, Supra and 350Z owners are the absolute Type-A personalities in society which makes them naturally competitive and defensive in what they believe.... (just look at the Z-Days thread on who is going to bring the fastest guns out.... it was like 6 pages in 2 days).
This kind of reaction shows how passionate you guys are about your cars and motorsports. I am the same way about what I do as a job, and I absolutely relish completing projects of this caliber.

Martin

Whatever · 12-19-2007, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by begone

This is a cool swap, and I don't understand why these VQ Fans are getting so Butt hurt.

What's amazing is that there are lots of folks out there that still want and do - transplant the 2jz into their platforms because of how great of an engine it is....These things are 10+ years old now!

Is there other engines out there that are that highly regarded for their power potential and ease of availability and uses? LSx Maybe?

There is already and LS2 350Z that is supposed to be getting and LSX (454CI) motor with boost in the future. Doug knows a lot more about it than I do, but it was at SEMA this year and pictures were posted of it a few weeks ago.

slyvki · 12-20-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent89

just look at the Z-Days thread on who is going to bring the fastest guns out.... it was like 6 pages in 2 days

actually, it was 6 pages in 3 hours

agent89 · 12-20-2007, 04:41 PM

Here is a quick vid of some minor boost pulls. 12.5 psi...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d...0901849c3e.htm

Martin

begone · 12-20-2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug

the 2JZ is 2 years older than the VQ.. and the reason why i'm 'Butt Hurt' is because of the statement that you need a 2JZ to make a 350z fast.. and thats incorrect and insulting.. but Martin already explained he was being political to keep you 2JZ lovers happy.

Like I said - Butt Hurt....

But 2 Years? Really? I thought the 350z was a 2003 Car, and if I remember correctly the Supra 2jz-gte was discontinued 1998. And I'm sure he's not using the later vvti versions.

I personally could care less - LS, 2JZ, VQ - a fast car is a fast car....but this is a Supra Forum isn't it....Let me check - Yep, it is.

Sorry, for the smartass remarks, but remember where you are, obviously the Thread Starter did. Maybe he should have said "To make a Fast 350z on a Stock Motor, Put in a 2JZ."

AlxRSPTT · 12-20-2007, 05:26 PM

Begone, Doug ma mean the designation "VQ" was alive before the actual VQ35 in the Z, but these were all smaller mostly unrelated versions, like the VQ25DE, if you ask me.

I am pretty sure Doug remembers where he is, but I also think he over reacted towards the OP. He's posting this on SF, of course he is going to poke fun at the VQ. I don't think the fuck off comment was called for, regarding something so trivial.

Doesn't matter anymore though.

Maybe he said he was being political to keep you VQ lovers happy.

Alex

detuned · 12-20-2007, 05:42 PM

Not sure if this was asked or not, but what rear end are you using? does nissan make something around the supra 6 speeds 3.13 (US) or the 3.26(Japan)

Rx7-2JOCK · 12-20-2007, 06:52 PM

AWESOME swap bro!! Is it going to be a shop car, or a daily driver?

doug · 12-20-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by begone

Like I said - Butt Hurt....

I guess i was butt hurt.. ow well.. struck a nerve

Quote:

Originally Posted by begone

But 2 Years? Really? I thought the 350z was a 2003 Car, and if I remember correctly the Supra 2jz-gte was discontinued 1998. And I'm sure he's not using the later vvti versions.

thats why the VQ motor has been on wards Top 10 list for every year since 1995? the only motor to ever do it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by begone

I personally could care less - LS, 2JZ, VQ - a fast car is a fast car....but this is a Supra Forum isn't it....Let me check - Yep, it is.

Is it? i had no idea when i signed up in 1999.. i thought i was on the Honda forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by begone

Sorry, for the smartass remarks, but remember where you are, obviously the Thread Starter did. Maybe he should have said "To make a Fast 350z on a Stock Motor, Put in a 2JZ."

i was still making more power on less PSI on a stock VQ motor..

doug · 12-20-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rx7-2JOCK

AWESOME swap bro!! Is it going to be a shop car, or a daily driver?

the car is owned by a customer.. not sure if its his Daily Driver.. but its not a shop car

Ali 556 · 12-21-2007, 12:37 AM

good work martin...but :

the price is like every thing from Xat over priced...21k$ for a swap....jess...i remember you swap ''kit'' for LSx's into 240's...11 K$ for a ''complete swap''...yea right...the guys has done it for less then 6K$ DIY baby !!! .....

that been said....great jop for swaping the greatest japenes engine into the ''all show and no go'' VQ Powerd 350Z's....

Kind Regards,

Ali

ShanTTarbinian · 12-21-2007, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benz F1

The VQ has always made more hp/tq boost for boost than the 2jz so in a sence you are not really upgrading when you drop in a 2jz.....

If you know anything about boost, you'd know higher compression engines always make more power at lower psi's than lower compression engines. And to that note.. you'd also know lower compression engines can handle much more psi for that same reason.

badboysupra · 12-21-2007, 01:39 AM

this is a very awesome swap! much props to the mechanic's and the shop who did this project

aite, peace.

doug · 12-21-2007, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaKmaN

If you know anything about boost, you'd know higher compression engines always make more power at lower psi's than lower compression engines. And to that note.. you'd also know lower compression engines can handle much more psi for that same reason.

displacement.. even at lower compression the VQ will make more power per PSI and more TQ than the 2JZ

doug · 12-21-2007, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali 556

that been said....great jop for swaping the greatest japenes engine into the ''all show and no go'' VQ Powerd 350Z's....

yes because N/A Supra's are all show and all go right?

what sad is the 'all show and no go' VQ Powered 350z runs simular 1/4 mile times to a stock MKIV TT

12-18-2007, 10:23 PM	#83
begone SupraForums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rowlett, TX Age: 31 Posts: 1,997	This is a cool swap, and I don't understand why these VQ Fans are getting so Butt hurt. What's amazing is that there are lots of folks out there that still want and do - transplant the 2jz into their platforms because of how great of an engine it is....These things are 10+ years old now! Is there other engines out there that are that highly regarded for their power potential and ease of availability and uses? LSx Maybe? __________________ 2008 Lexus IS350 2007 Mercedes ML350 1997 RSP NA -> JDM TT - Polished SP63 - Auto w/3200 stall - SOLD

12-20-2007, 04:41 PM	#89
agent89 SupraForums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: tampa fla Age: 28 Posts: 634	Here is a quick vid of some minor boost pulls. 12.5 psi... http://videos.streetfire.net/video/d...0901849c3e.htm Martin __________________ the jizza is under the knife.

12-20-2007, 05:26 PM	#91
AlxRSPTT iSketch Master! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 24 Posts: 6,321	Begone, Doug ma mean the designation "VQ" was alive before the actual VQ35 in the Z, but these were all smaller mostly unrelated versions, like the VQ25DE, if you ask me. I am pretty sure Doug remembers where he is, but I also think he over reacted towards the OP. He's posting this on SF, of course he is going to poke fun at the VQ. I don't think the fuck off comment was called for, regarding something so trivial. Doesn't matter anymore though. Maybe he said he was being political to keep you VQ lovers happy. Alex Last edited by AlxRSPTT; 12-20-2007 at 05:30 PM.

12-20-2007, 06:52 PM	#93
Rx7-2JOCK SupraForums Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Washington State Age: 30 Posts: 1,111	AWESOME swap bro!! Is it going to be a shop car, or a daily driver? __________________ '08 Silver JGC

12-21-2007, 01:39 AM	#98
badboysupra KBR Performance Tuning Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vallejo, CA Age: 28 Posts: 2,651	this is a very awesome swap! much props to the mechanic's and the shop who did this project aite, peace. __________________ KBR Performance Tuning - 320 Couch St. Suite A. Vallejo Ca. -1989 Toyota Supra MKIII Turbo (project 10 in progress) -1991 Toyota Corolla DX -2007 Toyota Camry SE V6 -2008 Toyota Tacoma Pre-Runner TRD Sport RIP to all 5 of my old MKII's.. www.KBRperformance.com

12-17-2007, 02:02 PM	#76
TONYSUPRA V8SLAYR Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KILL DEVIL HILLS NC. Age: 37 Posts: 374	I love NISSSAN and TOYOTA. JAPAN FTMFW!!!

12-18-2007, 04:39 PM	#78
seeya SupraForums Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Age: 38 Posts: 731	Saw this car in person today and it sounded and looked sweeeeet!

12-18-2007, 06:25 PM	#79
Lith SupraForums Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NZ Age: 32 Posts: 3	Very cool project - I love a decent straight six with a huge turbo, though its a bit like putting an RB26 into a Supra.... ie, a downgrade. Makes sense if you are sticking with what you know however.

12-18-2007, 10:27 PM	#84
agent89 SupraForums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: tampa fla Age: 28 Posts: 634	Here is the first quick vid shot today. Just doing some base AF tuning with these huge injectors and driveability. Once clutch is broken in, we will do some full passes. Mainly posting this because people wanted to hear the exhaust note. Click here to watch Tuning-for-AF-and-Driveability Martin

12-18-2007, 11:17 PM	#86
agent89 SupraForums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: tampa fla Age: 28 Posts: 634	I try to play the side of the fence I am posting on always. It is good business sense really. It gets people riled up and wanting to do more insane projects like this. Like I said on the Z forum, Supra and 350Z owners are the absolute Type-A personalities in society which makes them naturally competitive and defensive in what they believe.... (just look at the Z-Days thread on who is going to bring the fastest guns out.... it was like 6 pages in 2 days). This kind of reaction shows how passionate you guys are about your cars and motorsports. I am the same way about what I do as a job, and I absolutely relish completing projects of this caliber. Martin

12-20-2007, 05:42 PM	#92
detuned Ninja Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,210	Not sure if this was asked or not, but what rear end are you using? does nissan make something around the supra 6 speeds 3.13 (US) or the 3.26(Japan)

12-21-2007, 12:37 AM	#96
Ali 556 SupraForums Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Far Far Away (1/2 way around the world) Posts: 469	good work martin...but : the price is like every thing from Xat over priced...21k$ for a swap....jess...i remember you swap ''kit'' for LSx's into 240's...11 K$ for a ''complete swap''...yea right...the guys has done it for less then 6K$ DIY baby !!! ..... that been said....great jop for swaping the greatest japenes engine into the ''all show and no go'' VQ Powerd 350Z's.... Kind Regards, Ali

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