"Official" Nissan R35 GTR thread

[97 white]

AnimalHouseRacing 10.88 @133.50 " NO LAUNCH CONTROL"

I would like to announce that the Animal House Racing GTR went 10.88 @133.50 today.
I would like to thank everyone at Cobb tuning for there custom program. Thank you JOHN
We are still running the same map as all the other passes, running a steady 17psi.
We did not use launch control at all.
The setup for the GTR is as fallows:
AHR CERAMIC WHEEL BEARINGS
AHR CERAMIC PULLEY BEARINGS
AHR THERMAL GASKET SET
AHR RACE Y PIPE
COBB ACCESS PORT
93 PUMP GAS w/1 gallon 100 oct

We believe the car has more in her but the track is closed for the season.
Thank you all at Nagtroc for the support
Stay tuned for next year with our AHR Godzilla turbo kit

Slip

60' 1.858
330 4.768
1/8 7.137
MPH 106.08
1/4 10.88
MPH 133.50

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...088_201390.htm

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=26624

[jimmyP]

You got to love it!

[Hurrakaine]

I have noticed that without launch control, the GTR has a 1.8 60' with the launch control it has a 1.6 60'. 1.8 is still pretty decent.

Also, Nissan in increasing the GTR's power next year by 5ps. That's about 5hp I am thinking. This is probably to still get the 3.3 0-60 and the same 1/4 miles speeds that the LC cars had.





And lastly, I think the GTR is a better deal then the ZR1 now. Its more consistent, and I am sure the GTR was the first in the tens? Am I wrong? Regardless, a tune, and more boost is all that's needed (exhaust don't seem to make power; outside of midpipes that is) it seems.

Which I might add that I said this almost a year ago, before the car came out.

[dacman]

If only you could get the ZR1 at MSRP... Unless you have the hookup, its 170k for the ZR1.

[OneJoeZee]

Saw these today. And a Gallardo Superleggera for bonus. Also an audi RS4 thrown in there I think.

[RazorEcko]

wow, suprisingly the gtr looks alot better w/out the wing

[F1V]

Nice frame Joe. You been working out?

[OneJoeZee]

Originally Posted by F1V

Nice frame Joe. You been working out?

don't be fooled. that's just my 1piece leather suit.

I'm still a skinny bitch.

[T66Dawg]

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

I have noticed that without launch control, the GTR has a 1.8 60' with the launch control it has a 1.6 60'. 1.8 is still pretty decent.

Also, Nissan in increasing the GTR's power next year by 5ps. That's about 5hp I am thinking. This is probably to still get the 3.3 0-60 and the same 1/4 miles speeds that the LC cars had.





And lastly, I think the GTR is a better deal then the ZR1 now. Its more consistent, and I am sure the GTR was the first in the tens? Am I wrong? Regardless, a tune, and more boost is all that's needed (exhaust don't seem to make power; outside of midpipes that is) it seems.

Which I might add that I said this almost a year ago, before the car came out.

The ZR1 has been out for a much shorter amount of time than the GTR. And it's taking "BPU" GTR's to run similar trapspeeds to ZR1's.

At MSRP the ZR1 is a much better bang for the buck. I personally can't wait to see what BPU ZR1's are capable of (guess is ~750 RWHP and high 9's on sticky tires)

BTW, I doubt 5 HP will be enough to drop the 0-60 times from 3.9 seconds to 3.3 seconds unless they redo something to allow a pseudo LC on the 2010 cars.

[warpet]

Originally Posted by T66Dawg

The ZR1 has been out for a much shorter amount of time than the GTR. And it's taking "BPU" GTR's to run similar trapspeeds to ZR1's.

At MSRP the ZR1 is a much better bang for the buck. I personally can't wait to see what BPU ZR1's are capable of (guess is ~750 RWHP and high 9's on sticky tires)

T66dawg= voice of reason on supra forums

[RazorEcko]

Originally Posted by T66Dawg

The ZR1 has been out for a much shorter amount of time than the GTR. And it's taking "BPU" GTR's to run similar trapspeeds to ZR1's.

At MSRP the ZR1 is a much better bang for the buck. I personally can't wait to see what BPU ZR1's are capable of (guess is ~750 RWHP and high 9's on sticky tires)

Agreed. I'm myself am very interested to see what the limit is on the GTR's tranny w/out lc or vdc, just straight pedal and launch abuse.

[Hurrakaine]

Originally Posted by warpet

T66dawg= voice of reason on supra forums

Sometimes he can be pretty stubborn

[dblock05]

Originally Posted by warpet

T66dawg= voice of reason on supra forums

not really...if anyone says that a GTR w/ BPU mods > ZR-1 at "BPU" stage than they aren't well informed...

The ZR-1 is already one hell of a beast and better than the GT-R at stock and *should* be easier to modify.

Give it another month or two.

[Hurrakaine]

Originally Posted by dblock05

not really...if anyone says that a GTR w/ BPU mods > ZR-1 at "BPU" stage than they aren't well informed...

The ZR-1 is already one hell of a beast and better than the GT-R at stock and *should* be easier to modify.

Give it another month or two.

T66 Dawg never said that.

For the record, a 750whp ZR1 would be more like a BPU++++

[Hurrakaine]

Here is why I think the GTR is a better deal than the ZR1.

First price; there are two sides to this. The ZR1 cost 25-35k more than the GTR. So you are in the hole to begin with, and seeing Z06’s can’t even sell anywhere close to MSRP, comparing the resale values down the road, it looks bleak, to me here it’s all in the GTR’s favor.
Power; the GTR is down almost 100whp stock, looks bad, yet somehow despite the vette weighing a couple hundred pounds less, and making more hp, it can still only must trap speeds about 5-7 mph faster than the GTR, and on top of that its E.T’s are only a few tenths better. Is that worth25-35 grand? I dunno. I don’t see how a 911TT is worth twice the amount of a GTR, seeing that it’s slower in most tests.

After market; I give it to the to GTR big time here. As far as Tuners; the Japanese, Australians, British, and the US developing parts for it. I do not take a genius to know that competition helps the consumer. On the vette side, well they have flow master, Borla, and well uh…. Lightenfelter Its better than that, but I doubt it will reach the GTR level.






And lastly, 2 grand in parts, and that price will drop I am sure, and you have a car that’s almost as fast as the ZR1, a lot more consistent with the average driver, a lot easier to drive at limit, and a lot better built. Not to mention, it can be used on a more daily basis, and it has a more usable interior, and an interior that does not belong in a Cobalt. You could take that last 30 grand, and put it in the bank.

So what gear does it take to run a 10.88 at 133 in a Nissan GT-R without using launch control, Animal House Racing develop many of their own parts in house and here’s what it ran down the 1/4 mile:

* AHR Ceramic Wheel Bearings
* AHR Ceramic Pulley Bearings
* AHR Thermal Gasket Set
* AHR Race Y-Pipe
* COBB Tuning AccessPORT (custom tuned)
* 93 PUMP GAS w/1 gallon 100 oct

[T66Dawg]

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

Here is why I think the GTR is a better deal than the ZR1.

First price; there are two sides to this. The ZR1 cost 25-35k more than the GTR. So you are in the hole to begin with, and seeing Z06’s can’t even sell anywhere close to MSRP, comparing the resale values down the road, it looks bleak, to me here it’s all in the GTR’s favor.

Comparing the Z06's resale value to the ZR1's resale value makes as much sense as comparing the GTR's resale value to the 350Z's. The GTR is the top dog Nissan (which BTW can now be had at MSRP and soon below as they are sitting on dealer lots) as is the ZR1 (top dog Chevrolet) and with MILLIONS (not thousands like with the GTR) of hardcore ZR1 fans out there the car's value will hold up (probably too good for my taste as I want to pick one up in a few years).

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

Power; the GTR is down almost 100whp stock, looks bad, yet somehow despite the vette weighing a couple hundred pounds less, and making more hp, it can still only must trap speeds about 5-7 mph faster than the GTR, and on top of that its E.T’s are only a few tenths better. Is that worth25-35 grand? I dunno. I don’t see how a 911TT is worth twice the amount of a GTR, seeing that it’s slower in most tests.

Make that close to 11 MPH stock for stock (most stock GTR's are right at 120 MPH traps and the ZR1 is at 131). To get another car that traps 131 MPH it costs ~$200K more. The ZR1's extra ~$25K over the GTR is the bargain of the century.

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

After market; I give it to the to GTR big time here. As far as Tuners; the Japanese, Australians, British, and the US developing parts for it. I do not take a genius to know that competition helps the consumer. On the vette side, well they have flow master, Borla, and well uh…. Lightenfelter Its better than that, but I doubt it will reach the GTR level.

DR. Evil voice, RIIIIGHT. Do you realize there are literally THOUSANDS of shops the world over that build SBC's?!?!?!? And lets see the GTR starts life with a 3.8 liter engine and the ZR1 6.2 liter (both built for boost). Advantage ZR1, EASY. And the ZR1 doesn't have the cloud over it's roof that is the GTR's transmission.

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

And lastly, 2 grand in parts, and that price will drop I am sure, and you have a car that’s almost as fast as the ZR1, a lot more consistent with the average driver, a lot easier to drive at limit, and a lot better built. Not to mention, it can be used on a more daily basis, and it has a more usable interior, and an interior that does not belong in a Cobalt. You could take that last 30 grand, and put it in the bank.

Or you could buy a base corvette put a bottle on it for ~$1000 and beat that GTR with 2K in mods and put the $30K in the bank. Do you see how stupid that argument is? And who says the GTR is a better daily driver? The Z06 is a great daily driver and the ZR1 is said to be even more docile.

[T66Dawg]

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

Sometimes he can be pretty stubborn

Don't confuse not giving in when you know you are right with stubborness.

[T66Dawg]

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

T66 Dawg never said that.

For the record, a 750whp ZR1 would be more like a BPU++++

Why? I expect a ZR1 with a full exhaust, tune and smaller pulley to turn those kind of numbers. That to me is BPU.

[bashivr4]

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

I have noticed that without launch control, the GTR has a 1.8 60' with the launch control it has a 1.6 60'. 1.8 is still pretty decent.

so true. 1.8s 60s on my car is a clutch dump at 6000rpm.

[lis2k]

You really need to do some research. The entire corvette line has such a insane amount of aftermarket behind it. The GTR aftermarket will never touch the scale of the Corvette aftermarket.
The vette is a bulletproof animal while the GTR has a transmission that is fragile.
Verdict ZR1>>>>>GTR

Originally Posted by Hurrakaine

After market; I give it to the to GTR big time here. As far as Tuners; the Japanese, Australians, British, and the US developing parts for it. I do not take a genius to know that competition helps the consumer. On the vette side, well they have flow master, Borla, and well uh…. Lightenfelter Its better than that, but I doubt it will reach the GTR level.

[30psi]

Originally Posted by lis2k

You really need to do some research. The entire corvette line has such a insane amount of aftermarket behind it. The GTR aftermarket will never touch the scale of the Corvette aftermarket.
The vette is a bulletproof animal while the GTR has a transmission that is fragile.
Verdict ZR1>>>>>GTR

Are you forgetting the first year Z06 issues. You know, the fragile rear end(see corvetteforum), the flying roof trapeze, rocker arm and countless other issues.

[30psi]

Lets not forget about the transmission issues as well.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...e-trannys.html

[Memph]

C'mon T66dawg, you gotta give the nod to the GTR in aftermarket support since the Corvette isn't very popular and has a mysterious engine that hardly anyone has worked on.

[dblock05]

Originally Posted by 30psi

Lets not forget about the transmission issues as well.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...e-trannys.html

Thats a disadvantage for the Z06 indeed, but at stock levels, warranty will cover it...

[F1V]

I like my martini's shaken, not stirred.