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SupraForums Member
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Miami,FL
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Why you shouldnt buy a cheap air filter
so last thursday i was at the 240 monthly meet and a little skittle/srt4 came through making noise as i was leaving... so i followed and went to play...rolled 2nd gear and pulled out on him nice and hit 3rd and lost power.....thought i blew an inercooler pipe or a map vacum line or something.....pulled over and had white exahust smoke.......also had 0 boost so figured i killed the stock turbos....
well i pulled em off to go single turbo and find the inside metal part of the filter came off and was in the intake pipe blocking off the front turbo.....and left a nice hole for debris to enter....im not sure if a rock came in and blew it apart...or if it revved too hig trying to maintain boost since the front turbo was blocked off?....i dunno...its a ceramic turbo so im guessing something came in the intake from the hole in the air filter and hit the spinning blades and blew it up......take a look ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() learn from my mistake...im hoping the motor wasnt affected and bolting on the single turbo...so out of bad comes good but this could happed to anyone...so be careful Jeff
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SupraForums Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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holy crap! i've had the cheapo's too but i never even imagined that could happen. thanks for the story and the pics.
sorry your turbos died, hope the engine is ok |
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two wheels is all i need
Join Date: Jan 2005
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ive got an ebay filter for my max but the supra never had a cheap air filter.... its always been the KnN or the HKS
. but that is some serious damage. I say make the store that sold you that filter pay for your single !!!!
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Poopra King
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ft. Lauderdale
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That's why I only use K&N
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Ive done more with less..
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: st louis,MO
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your car is only as strong as its weakest link, dont go cheap. Buy once and be done with it. that sucks tho..
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RoastBeefCurtain Commando
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tierra de los inmigrantes, PA
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those cheap filters are restrictive as hell too!
Sorry to see, but a lesson is learned. Not all filters are created equally. I always run K&N religiously
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EFI Certified Tuner
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Age: 29
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I like S&B filters better than K&N. Superior quality and flow with S&B's open top design imo. Either way, a good quality air filter is definitely better than that. Live and learn, we all go through shit like this at some point...so i'm glad it's over for you
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VVT-i FTW
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 20
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It's like the old saying goes, the bitterness of low quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. I'm sorry this has happened to you, but it should be an example to everyone that you should not skimp out on your parts.
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Leading the pack
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I don't understand, exactly which part of the filter broke off?
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Same here. Even though some people bash them for some reason? I have one on every car.
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VVT-i FTW
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I think the only reason people tend to bash them is the fact they beleive they've been played out. Don't get me wrong, I love K&N filters, I have always used them. But you get the people who claim to modify their cars yet don't know anything about mechanics bragging about how they have a K&N intake. I guess thats what people derive their hate from.
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Our supras, who art in the driveway, hallowed be thy name, thy speed has come, thy will never be done, on the road as it is on the mind, give us this day your daily beauty, and forgive us our speeding, as we forgive those who drive slow, and lead us not into incarceration, but deliver us from the five-o ....amen A beautiful Supra Prayer by: Kris Paczedlik ![]() 2JZ VVT-i Swap/Build http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=546316 |
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SupraForums Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St.Charles Missouri
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wow dude that sucks. thats alot of pieces. yeah i have an HKS intake so far so good. i bet that was embarrassing to be running one of the 124,324,532,563,453,674,353,253,646,234 SRT4s and then go down like that
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only problem is i only work part time (school) and being a broke student, im like broke all the time lmao
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SupraForums Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
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K&N all the way...fuck those other filters
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7m love... dont hate.
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some people bash k&n's because there oiled and the oil gets to the afm and lets dirt clog it up.
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VVT-i FTW
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Actually that's a myth. I watched a show (Two Guys Garage) where they went to the K&N factory and completely debunked the myth. The cause of the the bad AFM was a user error (I forgot what it was).
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Our supras, who art in the driveway, hallowed be thy name, thy speed has come, thy will never be done, on the road as it is on the mind, give us this day your daily beauty, and forgive us our speeding, as we forgive those who drive slow, and lead us not into incarceration, but deliver us from the five-o ....amen A beautiful Supra Prayer by: Kris Paczedlik ![]() 2JZ VVT-i Swap/Build http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=546316 |
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SONICSUPRA IS BACK!!
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damn, i didn't know that was possible
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89T 4 now, 91TT comin up
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blitz all the way.......
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SupraForums Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Illinois
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So i'm buying a new filter now, I have an ebay one, called Option racing. yeah i'm not taking that chance.
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SupraForums Member
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Location: Miami,FL
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old thread back to life...glad others can learn from my mistake....
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SupraForums Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
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How did both sides explode?
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SupraForums Member
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Location: Miami,FL
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1 turbo exploded.....id imagine something came in and ate up the compressor wheel and caused the exhaust wheel to contact the housing....destroying it....
i dont know exactly but my guess
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CreamTeam®
Join Date: Jun 2009
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fkin wow...
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Read'em and Weap
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actually saw this happen on a civic, sucked the front metal part of the filter and it was the perfect size to not get sucked into the turbo but just plug it up. He drove around trying to figure it out and took the filter off and found the mental piece just stuck in the inlet on the turbo. No damage done but it was a pretty interesting sight to see.
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I got warrants!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Charleston, South Carolina (FLORIDA, I wish)
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i use the AEM dryflow, K&N, or HKS
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effin' 09's
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: UNT
Age: 26
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I love the AEM Dryflow, my favorite filter on the market.
Be careful with HKS filters. They really don't do much filtering, and when the sponge element gets older and dry, chunks of it get sucked off the backside of the filter and into your motor. I've never seen any damage from it, but it's sketch to say the least.
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