HKS SSQ vs Tial BOV

1flossedm3 · 11-30-2008, 03:45 PM

Car is getting some revamping done.. I need to change BOV's, my old one is aparently faulty. (Thank's John haha).

I will be going DBB BL67mm .. I wondered your thoughts on BOV's.. I actually kinda dig the sound of the HKS but I thought I heard that it wasn't good for higher boost applications. I will be running 110 @ around 27-28psi or so.

Thoughts?

slither · 11-30-2008, 04:32 PM

Id just bite the bullet and go with TiaL. There performance is great and there cheap and WELL made also. However, you will not have the typical BOV sound

pnutcar · 11-30-2008, 04:50 PM

I run tial gate and bov and never looked back. I will also be running a 67 soon...

1flossedm3 · 11-30-2008, 07:07 PM

^ Any reason for your selection? The HKS SSQ sounds pretty sick on some cars. Anyone have any clips of the tial?

EasternSupra · 11-30-2008, 07:18 PM

Just compare the construction of both of them.... The HKS SSQV valves don't work too well when trying to push over 30psi

rcsupra · 11-30-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1flossedm3

^ Any reason for your selection? The HKS SSQ sounds pretty sick on some cars. Anyone have any clips of the tial?

Here is a Tial 50mm BOV...best sounding BOV imo.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...8-9a80009f2c9b

And again....

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...T88H_99582.htm

one more...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...yno_175481.htm

1flossedm3 · 11-30-2008, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsupra

Here is a Tial 50mm BOV...best sounding BOV imo.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...8-9a80009f2c9b

And again....

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...T88H_99582.htm

one more...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...yno_175481.htm

Thanks man, that white JPJ car might be one of my favorite cars next to houston t's. Think my mind is made up now

pnutcar · 11-30-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1flossedm3

^ Any reason for your selection? The HKS SSQ sounds pretty sick on some cars. Anyone have any clips of the tial?

I chose it purely for performance and reliability. All function > form. Good luck!

mkiv972 · 12-01-2008, 03:02 PM

One is Ricey and the Tial isnt DONE!

tissimo · 12-01-2008, 04:00 PM

HKS SSQV is a smaller valve and cant vent huge ammounts of air. I dont know the limit on it though, but I would assume a 67 @ 27-28 psi would be really close if not exceeding it.

fritzz · 12-01-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsupra

Here is a Tial 50mm BOV...best sounding BOV imo.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...8-9a80009f2c9b

And again....

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...T88H_99582.htm

one more...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...yno_175481.htm

if you like the sound of compressor surge

StokerSix · 12-01-2008, 06:03 PM

Had two SSVs on my 67 for 7 years...no probs.

These are the original w/ screw adjustment.

tissimo · 12-01-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fritzz029

if you like the sound of compressor surge

I cant watch the videos at work but the Tial 50mm does not sound like surge. If it does then yours is setup wrong. It should sound just like air.

1flossedm3 · 12-01-2008, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tissimo

I cant watch the videos at work but the Tial 50mm does not sound like surge. If it does then yours is setup wrong. It should sound just like air.

awww I <3 surge

Turbo Drifter · 12-01-2008, 08:11 PM

This videos all had a surge sound. I have a tial 50mm and it sounds nothing like that.

The best flowing BOV is a quiet BOV, the sound is the restriction. The Tial has a nice clean air release I'm sure at 35psi they make some sound though.

TROLL · 12-01-2008, 08:23 PM

I thought the same... lots of flutter in those videos which isnt right... not good for the turbo. It sounds great I admit, but not the way I'll have my car set up...

fritzz · 12-01-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tissimo

I cant watch the videos at work but the Tial 50mm does not sound like surge. If it does then yours is setup wrong. It should sound just like air.

i was referring to the sound of the bov in the video, not a tial in general

1flossedm3 · 12-01-2008, 10:41 PM

moreeee tial vids!

Boostin20v · 12-02-2008, 02:23 AM

TiAl 50mm Q valve.

MR.SPEC · 12-02-2008, 03:22 AM

tial Q valve- looks great, priced well, extremely functional to pretty much whatever you throw at it

BlueSteel · 12-18-2008, 01:32 PM

The HKS functions differently than most. It has a pull type valve when it opens so it can't be forced open under high pressure. With that being said my HKS crapped out on me and i'm in the market for a traditional style BOV.
Does the Tial have a push style valve similar to the Apexi and Greddy units? Anybody Know?

Hurrakaine · 12-18-2008, 04:28 PM

I personally think Tial's sound as exciting as a nun working at a strip club.

nautica2o3 · 12-19-2008, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN-NINJA

The HKS functions differently than most. It has a pull type valve when it opens so it can't be forced open under high pressure. With that being said my HKS crapped out on me and i'm in the market for a traditional style BOV.
Does the Tial have a push style valve similar to the Apexi and Greddy units? Anybody Know?

I'm pretty sure the Tial is a push type because it uses different springs.

I had the HKS when I was on stock twins and loved it, but I switched to Tial when I went single. The deciding factor was that people were running just one Tial bov and other people with the same turbo needed to use two HKS bovs.

IGGYWOOWOO · 12-19-2008, 08:36 AM

Buying a BOV for sound is retarded!

Get a BOV that works...

Get the Tial!

BlueSteel · 12-19-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nautica2o3

I'm pretty sure the Tial is a push type because it uses different springs.

I had the HKS when I was on stock twins and loved it, but I switched to Tial when I went single. The deciding factor was that people were running just one Tial bov and other people with the same turbo needed to use two HKS bovs.

I think your right on that. I was reviewing the design and theres no way it could be a pull type. I loved my HKS BOV also but it just stopped working one day. Not the quality I expected from HKS.

11-30-2008, 03:45 PM	#1
1flossedm3 Boost AddicKt Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Albany, NY Age: 26 Posts: 1,280	HKS SSQ vs Tial BOV Car is getting some revamping done.. I need to change BOV's, my old one is aparently faulty. (Thank's John haha). I will be going DBB BL67mm .. I wondered your thoughts on BOV's.. I actually kinda dig the sound of the HKS but I thought I heard that it wasn't good for higher boost applications. I will be running 110 @ around 27-28psi or so. Thoughts? __________________ -2002 Lexus IS300 DD -1993.5 MKIV Black Supra PT67 HKS/Apexi/CCW 683whp 592trq @28psi

11-30-2008, 07:18 PM	#5
EasternSupra Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: East Coast Posts: 254	Just compare the construction of both of them.... The HKS SSQV valves don't work too well when trying to push over 30psi Last edited by EasternSupra; 11-30-2008 at 07:20 PM.

12-01-2008, 03:02 PM	#9
mkiv972 SupraForums Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: DALLAS,TEXAS Age: 27 Posts: 1,124	One is Ricey and the Tial isnt DONE! __________________ sig by sc300fivespeed

12-02-2008, 02:23 AM	#19
Boostin20v Brake boosting Join Date: May 2008 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 284	TiAl 50mm Q valve. __________________ 2002 VW GTi GT30R 12.2 @ 118

12-18-2008, 04:28 PM	#22
Hurrakaine Assistant M*derator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philly burbs Age: 26 Posts: 1,898	I personally think Tial's sound as exciting as a nun working at a strip club. __________________ 1998 IJM Supra TT 6 speed 1 of 14 BPU 1997 Auto Supra t61 (sold) 98 tt 6 speed stock minus some (sold) SC400 Beater

11-30-2008, 04:32 PM	#2
slither SupraForums Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Virginia Age: 32 Posts: 3,787	Id just bite the bullet and go with TiaL. There performance is great and there cheap and WELL made also. However, you will not have the typical BOV sound

11-30-2008, 04:50 PM	#3
pnutcar 67mm of pleasure Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 28 Posts: 693	I run tial gate and bov and never looked back. I will also be running a 67 soon...

11-30-2008, 07:07 PM	#4
1flossedm3 Boost AddicKt Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Albany, NY Age: 26 Posts: 1,280	^ Any reason for your selection? The HKS SSQ sounds pretty sick on some cars. Anyone have any clips of the tial?

12-01-2008, 04:00 PM	#10
tissimo Stock is boring :( Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, FL Age: 25 Posts: 5,532	HKS SSQV is a smaller valve and cant vent huge ammounts of air. I dont know the limit on it though, but I would assume a 67 @ 27-28 psi would be really close if not exceeding it.

12-01-2008, 06:03 PM	#12
StokerSix SupraForums Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Canaveral FL Posts: 872	Had two SSVs on my 67 for 7 years...no probs. These are the original w/ screw adjustment.

12-01-2008, 08:23 PM	#16
TROLL Is it turbo? Is it stick? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Langhorne, PA Posts: 2,828	I thought the same... lots of flutter in those videos which isnt right... not good for the turbo. It sounds great I admit, but not the way I'll have my car set up...

12-01-2008, 10:41 PM	#18
1flossedm3 Boost AddicKt Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Albany, NY Age: 26 Posts: 1,280	moreeee tial vids!

12-02-2008, 03:22 AM	#20
MR.SPEC SupraForums Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: bay area Posts: 1,127	tial Q valve- looks great, priced well, extremely functional to pretty much whatever you throw at it

12-18-2008, 01:32 PM	#21
BlueSteel Asphalt Assassin Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rollin on stockers FTW!! ...sorta Age: 28 Posts: 783	The HKS functions differently than most. It has a pull type valve when it opens so it can't be forced open under high pressure. With that being said my HKS crapped out on me and i'm in the market for a traditional style BOV. Does the Tial have a push style valve similar to the Apexi and Greddy units? Anybody Know?

12-19-2008, 08:36 AM	#24
IGGYWOOWOO King Ding-a-ling! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 2,319	Buying a BOV for sound is retarded! Get a BOV that works... Get the Tial!

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