7M vs ??

[Killer MK3]

i was just searching on here and found out alot of you guys HATE the 7m motor and sayig its DIENG whys that?

any motor built like shit it a disaster waiting to happen, so dont blame the 7M, blame the owners of those 7M that are BAD cause they cheap out on certain parts and of course shits gona bust, that comon sence!!

most of us here got the mk3 cause we couldnt afford the mk4 so we do what we can, some go nuts some try and fail cause of budget, and then when shit hits the fan o yeah 7M sucks!??

just through id share that!

goodbye!

let the WAR begin!!

[Hitman]

350 is better.

[OvenRude]

What war? Don't start a troll thread.

[$uper$upra]

Originally Posted by Hitman

350 is better.

ha... front heavy

[project87]

Im about to build a 7m and im gonna try and keep her safe and running fast

[DegreE]

Just drop a rotary engine and call it a day.


No more BHG.

[project87]

Originally Posted by DegreE

Just drop a rotary engine and call it a day.


No more BHG.

No TY 7mgte i have 2 options both are up and running and both cost under 700$

[Zach90Turbo]

Originally Posted by Killer MK3

i was just searching on here and found out alot of you guys HATE the 7m motor and sayig its DIENG whys that?

any motor built like shit it a disaster waiting to happen, so dont blame the 7M, blame the owners of those 7M that are BAD cause they cheap out on certain parts and of course shits gona bust, that comon sence!!

most of us here got the mk3 cause we couldnt afford the mk4 so we do what we can, some go nuts some try and fail cause of budget, and then when shit hits the fan o yeah 7M sucks!??

just through id share that!

goodbye!

let the WAR begin!!

Here are some tips:

"A lot" is actually two words, look it up.

"Saying" has an "n" in it.

"Dying" is spelled with a "y"

"Why's" is a contraction where the apostrophe denotes the letter that was removed when the two words were combined.

I could go on and on and on, but I think you get the idea. If you want anybody to listen to what you have to say, at least make it coherent.

If you build motors as well as you speak English then you deserve to live a long and happy life with 7M's.

Happy trolling.

[supradreamz]

Originally Posted by Hitman

350 is better.

ls1 is better!

[IWANTASUPRANOW]

never had a problem with the 7m and i run it hard daily

[wh0wants2know]

this isn't the gayest thread ever but I think you're in my top 5. IBTL

[black91turbo]

Originally Posted by Zach90Turbo

Here are some tips:

"A lot" is actually two words, look it up.

"Saying" has an "n" in it.

"Dying" is spelled with a "y"

"Why's" is a contraction where the apostrophe denotes the letter that was removed when the two words were combined.

I could go on and on and on, but I think you get the idea. If you want anybody to listen to what you have to say, at least make it coherent.

If you build motors as well as you speak English then you deserve to live a long and happy life with 7M's.

Happy trolling.

I think Duane and Sean may have something to say about your post here. Check out this site and click on 7MGTE.....http://www.gtepowered.com/index.php?.../site/cars.php Spend money, make reliable power. That is pretty much how it goes with any build.

[SupraCooled]

Me loves me 7mge auto.......but i wouldnt put my pink slip against a civic.....
if you like the 7m, you better like working on cars.....

there are two kinds of mk3 owners:
1. ones who race civics or at least talk about it
2. ones that use there supra to get to work to put food in thier kids mouth

btw: OEM 200hp and 230hp does not cut it at the track or street,

(keywords: 7m, mk3, small radiator, small coolant capacity, leaky heater core extensions, clogged undersized catalytic converter , unappreciated muffler resonator, hot and dirty EGR, closed heater core valve at 65 degrees, hot intake placed on top of hotter exhaust, electric condensor fans that don't come on, belt driven radiator fan that has been" claimed to" do what no aftermarket eletric fan can do on earth, massively small and restictive downpipe, missing undercover, broken shroud, massive debris in radiator fins, great forum advice, 350 is better)

If you have kids who need feed, respectfully, a 7m is not a good choice for some people, even if it is 2 degrees below a mk4


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(edit) #3 type of owners

store it year round simply to keep it out of the hands of people like the original poster

[Zach90Turbo]

Originally Posted by black91turbo

I think Duane and Sean may have something to say about your post here. Check out this site and click on 7MGTE.....http://www.gtepowered.com/index.php?.../site/cars.php Spend money, make reliable power. That is pretty much how it goes with any build.

Reliable power my ass.

LOL, how many times has Duane broken his car. Not to mention the thing is never on the road. I assume you're talking about Sean Cassidy. He's a good guy and he has a beautiful car, but it's making 700-800hp max. That's still stock-block territory for 2j's. You will never convince me that a 7M is as good a platform as a JZ motor, it just has too many weaknesses to overcome.

You've found two cars that make power and are rarely street driven, kudos to you Captain of the Internet.

My post wasn't even really aimed to rip on 7M's, just the linguistically-challenged individual who started this thread.

Keep defending the 7M, I'll just watch the chip on your shoulder grow and grow.

[OvenRude]

To the guy who said this:

there are two kinds of mk3 owners:
1. ones who race civics or at least talk about it
2. ones that use there supra to get to work to put food in thier kids mouth

Here is me:

3. People who own a MKIII with 28k miles and store it year round simply to keep it out of the hands of people like the original poster.

And every "issue" you listed can be easily fixed if you are not living on food stamps. I swear to god the degeneration of the MKIII section in the past few years has been so utterly massive...

[MRSUPRA]

I vote #3 gayest thread.

[Bri7man]

We're our own breed. Supra's weed out ricer's from performance enthusiasts.

Which is why I love this forum so much<3

[Kracin]

Originally Posted by Killer MK3

i was just searching on here and found out alot of you guys HATE the 7m motor and sayig its DIENG whys that?

any motor built like shit it a disaster waiting to happen, so dont blame the 7M, blame the owners of those 7M that are BAD cause they cheap out on certain parts and of course shits gona bust, that comon sence!!

most of us here got the mk3 cause we couldnt afford the mk4 so we do what we can, some go nuts some try and fail cause of budget, and then when shit hits the fan o yeah 7M sucks!??

just through id share that!

goodbye!

let the WAR begin!!

do you really have a video of you cruising around with a 60-1 turbo calling it a killer? i used to run a 60-1 turbo. and it was fun cause it had instant boost, but you definately wont be running fast enough to kill most things with it. especially with everything else looking near stock there? and does your video seriously have techno music to you doing burnouts and some "full boost" pulls on that 60-1 turbo?

and do you seriously have the sp racing supra in your sig, while making a thread about how the 7m is awesome?

seriously?


i own a built 7m car, and a bpu mkiv supra.... so what was that about your original post saying that people just buy the 7m and cheap out on parts. but in actuality a lot of failure comes from toyota design. which was greatly improved with the 2jz and 1jz platforms... toyota made mistakes when designing the 7mgte. and they improved upon it like any other company... not to mention comparing the 7m and 2j is uncomparable because the 7m only came with a forged crank, which is still good up to 700ish hp, just like the 2j, its just that the pistons can't take that much punishment and tend to fail earlier.. which is where the improvement came later as well as oiling in the motors, and turbocharger designs.


please reply back to this thread so everyone can make fun of you more for making stupid fucking posts on this forum where people are dedicated to BOTH platforms, as well as the 5m engines and 6m engines as well.... just because it wasn't perfect when it was designed, doesn't mean it isn't a fun platform to use......

GTFO

[topguncam3888]

This thread sucks.

7M love yo!

[slowpra na-t]

i have not had a problem with my 7m since the rebuild... i daily drive mine and i race it at the drag strip at least once a month, the 7m works fine if built right

[upgradedsupra]

Originally Posted by Zach90Turbo

Reliable power my ass.

LOL, how many times has Duane broken his car. Not to mention the thing is never on the road. I assume you're talking about Sean Cassidy. He's a good guy and he has a beautiful car, but it's making 700-800hp max. That's still stock-block territory for 2j's. You will never convince me that a 7M is as good a platform as a JZ motor, it just has too many weaknesses to overcome.

You've found two cars that make power and are rarely street driven, kudos to you Captain of the Internet.

My post wasn't even really aimed to rip on 7M's, just the linguistically-challenged individual who started this thread.

Keep defending the 7M, I'll just watch the chip on your shoulder grow and grow.

Aside from the troll...Please leave my name out if it if the facts are not known, thanks.

My car is driven many many miles. Heck, I just drove it to a track this past Friday which was 5 hours from my house, dynoed it, raced it, then drove it home. Yes, it still runs. I drive it a lot, just not in the rain.

BTW, when I break it, it is nothing to do with the 7M.



7M came with forged crank and rods btw. (Cast pistons) The 2J has hyper eutectic pistons, forged crank and rods. The shim over bucket was improved because it spits them out when you rev it higher than OEM limit on the 7M. The 2J has a larger bucket (31mm) vs (27mm) 7m. They will still spit them out on the 2J but harder to do with big cams. Obviously the 2J is a better platform in stock form. Point is who cares, threads like this suck.

Note: To the thread starter, don't make bullshit threads like this, it just pisses people off.

[Fonz87]

Duane, are those CCW's on your supra in the sig ?

[SupraCooled]

I am trying to make up for the people who have had thier feelings hurt by this thread.....(mispelled words, trolling, hurt feelings, name dropping)

[upgradedsupra]

Originally Posted by Fonz87

Duane, are those CCW's on your supra in the sig ?

Yes

[Kracin]

Originally Posted by Killer MK3

i was just searching on here and found out alot of you guys HATE the 7m motor and sayig its DIENG whys that?

any motor built like shit it a disaster waiting to happen, so dont blame the 7M, blame the owners of those 7M that are BAD cause they cheap out on certain parts and of course shits gona bust, that comon sence!!

most of us here got the mk3 cause we couldnt afford the mk4 so we do what we can, some go nuts some try and fail cause of budget, and then when shit hits the fan o yeah 7M sucks!??

just through id share that!

goodbye!

let the WAR begin!!

heres a fun fact for anyone else looking at this thread.

the fact that the 7m and 2j differ in certain areas is known. but take a look at how many people with a 2jz engine in their car have actually cracked it open at some point and rebuilt it.

and then take a look that every single 7m out there has been rebuilt at one point because of certain issues from the factory... and the percentage of those rebuilt 7m's lasting under high power conditions is just as high as the rate of 2jz engine lasting that have never even been opened up before either.. and ive seen a few 2jz-gte engines bite the dust so far here.. both of which were opened up at some point and rebuilt.


the argument that either one is more stable than the other is a bad argument because they are almost the same engine, one is just more updated than the other. and they are both stable in the stock form. and both are stable, built right. and both will be fucked, if they are put together wrong.