Precision Vs Tial

[TitanMotorsports]

When Precision released their new 46mm Wastegate, we were asked by our clients to do a side by side comparison with the Tial 44mm, you are probably wondering, why not against the Tial 46mm?? and the reason is because even though Tial makes a 46mm, it is the 44mm that has the same mounting flange as Precision’s therefore if you have a header with that mounting flange already on it the decision would be between the Tial 44mm and the Precision 46mm. Below is the observations we were able to make by taking them apart, and comparing their internals.

To begin lets lay out the facts, Tial is a 44mm Wastegate that comes in a multitude of colors and we sell them for $450 to the public HERE. Precision’s has a bit of a larger valve 46mm, and it is only available in black and we retail it to the public for $314.10 Found in HERE. So let’s begin with the photos.

Boxes are the same size and they both come packed with the same foam material that completely protects every part from damage during shipping.




Below are the contents of the boxes the way they come, the clear difference is that the Precision comes with 3 extra springs in the box, that way you have the possibility to replace them without having to make a separate order for them.



As for the hardware, both have the banjo design, but the Precision brings an extra plug in case you don’t use one of the ports of the Wastegate and the Tial doesn’t have this in their hardware.


When side by side they look very similar, however the Precision unit is a bit smaller in height compared to the Tial,



The underside again is the same basic design, however you can see how the valve in the precision is a little bit larger (2mm) than the Tial unit



Once apart, the precision comes standard with 2 springs, and the seat materials are visibly different, I ‘m not qualified to give a breakdown on the materials, however the structure of the seat itself is the same, and even though is hard to tell from the pictures they both use a 4 Allen key setup to hold the seat to the valve itself.


Internally the main difference is Precision uses a longer sleeve to hold the stem of the valve


And last but not least the literature. Precision comes with a multi page full color instruction’s manual, Tial half a letter size paper printed in both sides.



Hope this can help you make an educated decision when in the market for a Wastegate.

[samacs]

Nice write up, I didn't even know Precision made a WG.

[N1ck Z]

yea me ether haha

tial seems better tho... shiny!

[2jzMK3]

they were just released.

[LexISpooled]

Does the precision have a spring that can hold a base boost around 14-15psi and can then hold up around 26psi w/o having to swap springs?

I believe the tial has the .9bar spring which can do that sufficiently..

[Sound Performance]

Originally Posted by LexISpooled

Does the precision have a spring that can hold a base boost around 14-15psi and can then hold up around 26psi w/o having to swap springs?

I believe the tial has the .9bar spring which can do that sufficiently..

Of course they have a 14-15 psi spring. I would not think that you should have any problem getting 26 psi but that is really not as much WG dependent as it is your setup. Turbo size, header design, back pressure etc.

[Sound Performance]

Nice writeup BTW !!

[Mdeniz]

Originally Posted by Sound Performance

Nice writeup BTW !!

Sank you sirr

[Nero]

If you mean you can use the low spring for base setting and then use a boost controller to run higher boost like the below description then yes the precision wastegate can do this, this is also the function of pretty much all wastegate's on the market today

Originally Posted by LexISpooled

Does the precision have a spring that can hold a base boost around 14-15psi and can then hold up around 26psi w/o having to swap springs?

I believe the tial has the .9bar spring which can do that sufficiently..

[Flicktitty]

looks like a pretty good product.

thanks for the writeup.

do you have any customers that have used this yet? how are the results?

[Bottle]

we have shipped about 20 units out and just got them a few days ago. So we have not heard back from those customer yet.

[boost dr]

Seems like a better deal for the money. I like the fact that it comes with multiple springs. Tial springs are like what an exctra $25 a piece?

[SUPRMSC]

Beautiful writeup, precision ftw

[agm]

hm im in the market for exactly this right now, can anyone confirm the resistance of all 3 springs?

Originally Posted by titan website

and can accommodate a wide range of boost pressures (anywhere from 1.5PSI up to 25.5PSI).

one of them is a 1.5psi spring?

i might be able to utilize a 1.5psi spring for initial testing, and the price for this is seeming very efficient.

if someone can confirm a 1.5psi spring, i will likely order this upcoming monday

[TonyN]

nice, seems like a quality part from precision. I just bought my tial 44 a few months ago, if i would have seen this i might have gone with precision, the quality and material seems as good and the price difference is substantial engouh. plus with a well trusted shop like Titan backing it up im sure its good.

[Sooco100pf]

Any info on how the Precision does with leaded race gas? I know a Tial 38MM wastegate is not recommended to be used if leaded gas is used often, just wanted to check.

[chevyeater-on-sf]

Where are the castings made for these wastegates (tial/precision)?

I may be wrong but I'm getting a whiff of "China"...

[Errol @ TPS]

No way man. That is a bonified Chinese Knock off, of a Chinese Knock off.

Originally Posted by chevyeater-on-sf

Where are the castings made for these wastegates (tial/precision)?

I may be wrong but I'm getting a whiff of "China"...

[agm]

even if they come from chinese factories, i would like to believe precision puts them through some intense quality control.

the fit and finish is probably a cut above.

[4wd-eclipse]

Is the Precision 46mm will mount perfectly into Tial 44mm weld in/out flanges? ... If not dose the Precision 46mm come with welding flanges?

[NickD.]

Looks like we got a new kid on the block when it comes to wastegate. Quality and price= a winning combo. Undercut Tial by $135...............i am in. Precision comes with pretty box and full color manual seal the deal. Thanks Titan for the great review.

[Nero]

Yes to my knowledge a Precision Gate will bolt to both the inlet and outlet flanges of a Tial Wastegate 44mm piece. V-band style. If you already have a header the Precision will bolt right on.

I am not Precision, but from my knowlegde of the products and housings they make, I believe this pieces is made in the USA or cast in the USA on the housing and the CNC Billet pieces are likely made at the Precision Turbo Factory. As you can see there are no foriegn stickers saying "made in china" on any of the pictures which is common when products are made overseas.

Thanks

Originally Posted by 4wd-eclipse

Is the Precision 46mm will mount perfectly into Tial 44mm weld in/out flanges? ... If not dose the Precision 46mm come with welding flanges?

[sickboy]

Originally Posted by agm

even if they come from chinese factories, i would like to believe precision puts them through some intense quality control.

the fit and finish is probably a cut above.

[agm]

lol...

[4wd-eclipse]

Originally Posted by Nero

Yes to my knowledge a Precision Gate will bolt to both the inlet and outlet flanges of a Tial Wastegate 44mm piece. V-band style. If you already have a header the Precision will bolt right on.

I am not Precision, but from my knowlegde of the products and housings they make, I believe this pieces is made in the USA or cast in the USA on the housing and the CNC Billet pieces are likely made at the Precision Turbo Factory. As you can see there are no foriegn stickers saying "made in china" on any of the pictures which is common when products are made overseas.

Thanks

Sound Great ... I was planning to get Tial 44mm very soon, so I'll order the Precision 46mm instead.