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    Quote Originally Posted by Khano View Post
    Has anything come of this? Was it delivered to Toyota?
    Toyota UK knows about it. i'll send them another email and see what happens
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    This is the initial contact i received

    "Dear Mr Laaraj
    I have been asked by our President and Managing Director, Paul Van der Burgh, to thank you for your email and to respond on his behalf.
    Thank you for provide a link to a list of parts you are interested in.
    I am currently investigating this matter and will contact you again in due course.
    Kind regards

    Samantha Betts
    Specialist Case Manager, Customer Relations
    Toyota (GB) PLC
    Distributor of vehicles, parts and accessories for the UK"


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    this is the response i got today.

    "Dear Mr Laaraj

    I write with reference to our recent correspondence about the availability of parts for the Toyota Supra.

    Following your contact, we have made enquiries on your behalf to our European Head Office. I am sorry to advise you there are no current plans to restart production on parts that are currently discontinued. However, the availability and production of genuine parts for heritage models is constantly under review.

    I am sorry we are unable to provide you with a positive response and for the disappointment this will cause but thank you for taking the time to contact Mr Van der Burgh.

    Kind regards





    Samantha Betts
    Specialist Case Manager, Customer Relations
    Toyota (GB) PLC
    Distributor of vehicles, parts and accessories for the UK "


    anyone ever see the shawshank redemption?
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    ( andy gets a package)

    We have their attention officially, lets keep it up.

    I'll get all the emails and hard addresses and post them up!!!!
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    To be honest I didn't expect to get a positive response from the UK division.
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    initial response was good, i'll rope in our UK guys to this response and let them know what up. I could create a discord Channel to talk real time for everyone to speed up the process of logistics

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    something to add to the list.

    6sp diff parts.

    the case (pumpkin)
    rebuild kits for the trd lsd.


    trd mounts (engine, tranny)

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    Signed noticed the mark went from 5 to 10k will it bump up again or get sent in?

    Also to late now but if we all signed and gave vin number might have helped cause significantly and required less signatures

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRsupra7 View Post
    Signed noticed the mark went from 5 to 10k will it bump up again or get sent in?

    Also to late now but if we all signed and gave vin number might have helped cause significantly and required less signatures
    Hey RR I agree that's a good idea about the VIN numbers. But from here I'm waiting for it to reach around 10000 where it has a realistic number of remaining cars. Turns out that's where I'd like to get this anyways. A solid 10000 supporters means Owners who don't find this will also be grateful for it if it's successful. The number updated automatically and I have no control over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasTTurbo View Post
    The issue that lies is most if not all of the highly expensive tooling/molds/materials for making all of this stuff has been destroyed. Is it alot of money for toyota to retool? not for toyota but the reality is due to new adopted manufacturing processes and equipment to go back to produce old parts with the old equipment is 100% not going to happen. I could see some chinese factory doing some shitty quality stuff but even thats a long shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by FasTTurbo View Post
    Because they are, spoke to Curt many times about this and his toyota reps confirmed it. They don't make new car parts from the old molds. Like I said earlier, manufacturing processes used in the 1990's are so far obsolete in 2017 there is no way they retained that old tooling. This needs to be a unilateral movement across other 1990's toyota models IMO to make it worthwhile or even give this a 5% chance of happening.

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    For injection molded parts:

    I'm a manufacturing engineer that's worked with injection mold tooling. I can't fathom why Toyota would "destroy" tooling molds for their retired vehicles. The tools for larger pieces are incredibly expensive to make ($10k-100,000k) and very cheap to store indefinitely. There's very little benefit to destroying them. The tools were surely retired and put into storage, but I am very, very suspect many would actually be scrapped.

    I also don't know how anyone outside the Toyota Manufacturing Engineering group in Japan would know the actual disposition of said molds. For 1, there are hundreds of parts, many likely with multiple molds. It'd take a concentrated effort to verify which exact molds were scrapped. And 2, The chain of communication to actually verify that would be five or more people long over multiple languages. I could easily see some Japanese tooling engineer saying "The mold is retired" and by the time the statement is relayed and translated through various people including an engineering manager in Japan, US relations member/liason, Toyota USA rep, and then a dealership parts manager the final message could easily be contorted into "the mold is gone/destroyed/scrapped" when in reality it was just pulled out of the facility which actually molds parts.

    Many (I'd argue most, perhaps even all) molds made from the mid 90's to date should be easily usable in molding machines common across all manufacturing regions in the world. It's not like the mold itself expires or becomes obsolete. At least, not for the simple ABS parts littering interiors and exteriors of 80's/90's and 2000's Toyota's. Fittings may change or need refurbishment, but nothing that would render the tool useless.

    Color me unconvinced, haha. I could be wrong, but my experience in the manufacturing industry tells it's very likely the tools are still stored somewhere, despite what a US parts manager may have been told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suprarx7nut View Post
    For injection molded parts:

    I'm a manufacturing engineer that's worked with injection mold tooling. I can't fathom why Toyota would "destroy" tooling molds for their retired vehicles. The tools for larger pieces are incredibly expensive to make ($10k-100,000k) and very cheap to store indefinitely. There's very little benefit to destroying them. The tools were surely retired and put into storage, but I am very, very suspect many would actually be scrapped.

    I also don't know how anyone outside the Toyota Manufacturing Engineering group in Japan would know the actual disposition of said molds. For 1, there are hundreds of parts, many likely with multiple molds. It'd take a concentrated effort to verify which exact molds were scrapped. And 2, The chain of communication to actually verify that would be five or more people long over multiple languages. I could easily see some Japanese tooling engineer saying "The mold is retired" and by the time the statement is relayed and translated through various people including an engineering manager in Japan, US relations member/liason, Toyota USA rep, and then a dealership parts manager the final message could easily be contorted into "the mold is gone/destroyed/scrapped" when in reality it was just pulled out of the facility which actually molds parts.

    Many (I'd argue most, perhaps even all) molds made from the mid 90's to date should be easily usable in molding machines common across all manufacturing regions in the world. It's not like the mold itself expires or becomes obsolete. At least, not for the simple ABS parts littering interiors and exteriors of 80's/90's and 2000's Toyota's. Fittings may change or need refurbishment, but nothing that would render the tool useless.

    Color me unconvinced, haha. I could be wrong, but my experience in the manufacturing industry tells it's very likely the tools are still stored somewhere, despite what a US parts manager may have been told.
    I'm with this guy. No reason to get rid of that stuff if it can provide information for their next car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supergoji View Post
    I'm with this guy. No reason to get rid of that stuff if it can provide information for their next car.
    I agree doesn't make sense, but you are trying to make common sense not corporate sense. We are all just inserting opinion and conjecture essentially and anyone could be right. Time will tell! Trust me there is no one here that wants these parts made more than me.
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    I have been following this petition very closely and was truly hoping for just a sliver of proof Toyota would support the Supra platform as a true heritage model. As a former Supra owner I have been debating getting back into the platform over the past few years, but its replies like the one the petition has received from Toyota corporate that pushes me away. Supra's as a platform truly deserve better heritage support than what Toyota appears they will ever offer going forward.

    With just an estimated 11,500 or so Supra's sold in the US market, for all intensive purposes, Toyota is slowly issuing a death sentence to the platform with each newly discontinued part. Unfortunately for the Supra platform and many others like it, its painfully obvious that auto manufacturers, Toyota included, are moving away from gasoline powered vehicles. The investment by them from a financial perspective would far exceed the R.O.I they would receive off the sale of new Supra parts, and they appear to have no nostalgic intent to offer restoration parts going forward.

    While I don't think Supra's as a platform are going to just die off overnight, for those individuals who like to drive their cars more so than garage them the response from Toyota is the worst possible news. If your building a race car OE window trim, molding, interior trim, etc. may not be very important, but for those who want to keep their Supra's in pristine condition its the little things that will slowly drag the car down. Unless the aftermarket is able to secure/create new molds for a host of parts I feel that Supra restoration in as little as the next decade will be non-existent. I truly hope that this is not the case, and that future innovations in 3D printing coupled with the unique Supra aftermarket companies can handle the future needs of the Supra community.

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    there's two ways to do this. Either Toyota does, or we do.

    If they do then great!!!

    if they don't then 3D scanners and printing as well as the community coming together and designing new and repro parts is the way to go.

    I'm asking some people today to spread word of this. maybe it'll help

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    ^^^ or someone or something like classic industries for imports... like it or not these things are basically becoming classics, just japanese classics... https://www.classicindustries.com/about/ maybe some of you or one of you guys should inquire with them? they make literally everything for domestic classics.
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    site looks good, but I don't see them as a viable supplier. I'm sure we can find someone better. Great start though!!!!

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    this is the response I sent

    "Samantha,

    Thank you for your response. We're still garnering more response. we've climbed to 8k people who support it world wide at the moment. In the near future RHD (right hand drive) Supra's will become legal for import into the USA. Demand for parts will increase and they will not be available to anyone.

    Nissan has started the heritage parts program. They are reproducing NLA parts for the R32 GTR at the moment and are gearing up to expand to the R33, R34 and 300zx vehicles.

    It's a shame to see that only Nissan truly cares for it's customers classic cars. Toyota has a great racing heritage and plenty of passed sports cars that deserve to be maintained. This will push away your fan base because the cars will no longer be able to repaired.

    The Supra is your most famous vehicle that you've made and a household name, don't lose it.

    I'd also like to request the contact email for the US and Japan CEO's, James Lentz and Akio Toyoda."

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    Fire away lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by supergoji View Post
    this is the response I sent

    "Samantha,

    Thank you for your response. We're still garnering more response. we've climbed to 8k people who support it world wide at the moment. In the near future RHD (right hand drive) Supra's will become legal for import into the USA. Demand for parts will increase and they will not be available to anyone.

    Nissan has started the heritage parts program. They are reproducing NLA parts for the R32 GTR at the moment and are gearing up to expand to the R33, R34 and 300zx vehicles.

    It's a shame to see that only Nissan truly cares for it's customers classic cars. Toyota has a great racing heritage and plenty of passed sports cars that deserve to be maintained. This will push away your fan base because the cars will no longer be able to repaired.

    The Supra is your most famous vehicle that you've made and a household name, don't lose it.

    I'd also like to request the contact email for the US and Japan CEO's, James Lentz and Akio Toyoda."
    Isn't his email [email protected] ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turb0wned View Post
    If that is seriously the email I’ll put that in our update on the petition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProPilot View Post
    If that is seriously the email I’ll put that in our update on the petition.
    Could be wrong but i'm pretty sure that's what it is.

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    Could you verify this before I blast it? LoL try emailing him and see what he says. I'm on my phone for the next few days at Daytona for the Rolex 24. I'd love to see if he responds positively for this car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProPilot View Post
    Could you verify this before I blast it? LoL try emailing him and see what he says. I'm on my phone for the next few days at Daytona for the Rolex 24. I'd love to see if he responds positively for this car.
    I just googled it and it seems like it is.

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