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Thanks for the post and I'm looking forward to hearing more and seeing some pictures. This car seems to be well thought out and well worth the price from every review I've read and heard. This is a very special car guys and 500 very very very lucky people will get the chance to own it. I wish I was one of the 500.
First off you said "a few years." A few means usually means three. Secondly, well-optioned 2005 F430s still change hands in the 150s and they had a much lower starting price...hehehe
I am, thanks
And actually, i'd bet on a sub $150,000 figure
Let's talk in 5 years and see who's right, mkay?
Well, considering someone I know just bought a 430 for $118,000, and that it's only four years old, you're on.
This, this and this again. Alex, I've suggested to mc_hammer that he take the advice of his avatar. Clearly, he is not receptive to this recommendation. So that we can actually return to having a sensible discussion about this car while waiting for Ryan Woon's detailed assessment, I am suggesting to you, Guilly, Matador and others that you not continue to feed this guy by responding to his posts. It's not worth it. Life's too short. Matador made a similar observation pages back. I say we honor it and implement his recommendation so this thread can breathe again.
I agree. Why can't Lexus join the game if a they want to build a supercar that performs just as well? I dont think $200k is a bad asking price especially with the limited production and considering the prices of a whole lot of supercars worth $500k-$2mil. I not i'm not going to afford it but there are people who will. Just my $0.02
$200k? I'm going to assume you got 4 mixed up with the 2 on the keyboard. $400k is the price.
You show very little appreciation of automotive history. The F40 was originally sold as limited run, however later Ferrari raced them and made some more. Before they made more the price spiked quite incredibly (way more than double) along with 959s, the other supercar of that era, allowing a nice return for anyone who never wanted Ferrari to allow them to buy another such car. After that, when more flooded the market, prices dropped again. F50s were slightly less of an item but still allow a very, very decent return:
Probably not but that's because people expect Toyotas to be affordable.
Don't agree and most people with a rational head don't. This is not the Plan A LFA. About a year ago the entire automotive world believed and wrote about how this car was going to be $200-225k and be produced in a volume greater than 500. Why don't you read this thread from the start (and also note that my original comments earlier on were very positive)? Something changed and a Plan B kicked in. It would serve no purpose for Toyota's PR crew to allow such rumours to propagate and piss people off in this way. Having an opinion about the price is one thing but anyone claiming that early notions were just rumours is deluded.
I know and that's why when Evo write things like, "one mobile tail.... that a degree of rear end instability under hard braking does nothing to calm," and "imperfect transmission.... the transmission surges while the clutch slips especially in auto mode," and "the brakes have too much initial bite..." and give it 4 out of 5 I worry. A car like this shouldn't be getting 4 out of 5. Most of this assessment was done on a billiard-table-smooth track too.
500 hand made cars is a LOT for a mass manufacturer........ They can only build 1 a day........
Again, Toyota NEVER, EVER, comments on future model rumors. Neither do most other companies. It serves no purpose as new rumors will start again.
Not quite, when I first learned of the 2000GT (early to mid 80's) they were going for big bucks already (~$70K)....... Today good examples go for over $200K.
$150K would still be a loss of well over $100K (price for taxes and fees). That's a BIG hit.
I wasn't discussing volume Ferrari's with whitemkiii. I was commenting that flagship Ferraris are a safer short-term investment than the LFA (i.e. F40, F50, Enzo). Even 20 years is a long time to wait for your money when you can double it in 5 years and still be in roughly the same monetary climate.
Do you realise that repeatedly using the term 'hater' makes you sound like a little girl? I do not hate the car but any reasoned debate with you always turns out this way. It's simply impossible to have an alternate point of view.
Good points.
