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Any tips on where to start spraying (primer and/or paint) Do the jambs first? I was told start at the roof then move to panels. True?

I originally wasn't going to primer first but it seems to be the best idea for the best job. After I primer should I remove tape while it dries then apply new tape for the top coat?

Right now I have completeley degreased the car and started initail sanding all over with 320-400. Should tack cloth then do more with 600? Or is it abot ready for prime? This isn't a show car but factory finish would be nice. I havent even picked the color yet. Either white or a dark gray (non metallic). I was told to stay away from pearls and metallics for a novice sprayer.

TIA
 
Any tips on where to start spraying (primer and/or paint) Do the jambs first? I was told start at the roof then move to panels. True?

I originally wasn't going to primer first but it seems to be the best idea for the best job. After I primer should I remove tape while it dries then apply new tape for the top coat?

Right now I have completeley degreased the car and started initail sanding all over with 320-400. Should tack cloth then do more with 600? Or is it abot ready for prime? This isn't a show car but factory finish would be nice. I havent even picked the color yet. Either white or a dark gray (non metallic). I was told to stay away from pearls and metallics for a novice sprayer.

TIA
To get the job done with much satisfaction, ur best bet is to take the car apart meaning the doors off, hood, hatch etc..thats what i plan on doing this winter, much easier to tape and dont have to wry about getitng in the jams and creases. Yet whatever u prefer, both ways will do. also deff. prime it. if u want to take the extra step, prime it twice. It will look better and smoother in the end and if there is any body work done u wont have to worry about the paint lifting or swelling. You will be ready for primer with 320-400 grit. thats perfect
 
SO Im gonna have fenders, hood, trunk off, doors off to do the jambs etc.. first.

Would you clear them or do that with the rest of the car?

I planned actually doing the jambs, bay, trunk "bay" black and a differnt color for everything else. (I saw this once at a show and fell in love with it)

FYI this is an SC300. VVVVV
 
you can get paint at a local auto body supply shop
PPG in my opinion is the best. they make a low cost paint called SHOPLINE.
this is what i use when i paint parts or do a full paint, unless its custom or they wanna pay for top shelf.
DUPONT is another option. they also make a low cost paint, NASON.
ive used all of these brands and they all work well.
dont think id recomend buying on line. auto body supply makes it fresh for you, and you can pick from thousands of colors.
little samples so you can see how the color looks in the sun.
depending on where your painting (i dont expect any one has a booth, i dont use one)
you will want to wet the floor down. paint with the floor wet.
this will keep the dust down.
make sure you know there your air hose is too.
its a bitch to drag your hose thru fresh paint, so keep it low.
keep a good temp in the room. you dont want to paint in the cold.
paint wont stick well to cold panels. cold paint doesnt spray well.
clear coat is shitty in the cold. it will run a marathon down the side of your car
and theres nothing you can do about it till its dryed for 2-3 days.
small drips can be fixed with a razor i can take a pic of how this is done if anyone is interested.
wet sand primer with 600 grit and go over the whole car with 600 dry on an orbital sander.
ive found this gives the best results for me.
ive been painting for 7 years and i still screw up sometimes,
so dont worry if shit goes bad.
:bigthumb: good luck guys. post some pics of your paints when your done.
i dont wanna take over the thread just thought id throw in some tips, any thing else just ask.
 
I have Kustom Shop Toyota White.

Plan is to do the hood, trunk, front bumper and doors seperateley. Then the rest of the car.

Should I clear everything at once when its all back on the car? Or just do it as I go? (I hope I'm making sense)

I'll take pics.
 
better off clearing it shortly after you paint it, wont make a differance if you clear it on or off the car,you will risk getting finger prints all over the paint. especially white. if you wanted to you could edge evry thing (paint all the edges that will be hard to get like inners on the fenders and doors and under the hood etc..) then put every thing on the car in a day or 2 when the edging is hard. then back mask all the gaps and holes and edges and shoot the whole car as one. better blend from pannel to pannel that way, but if its all the same color that part wont be an issue. either one of those 2 ways will work fine. proly better off doing them off the car.
 
I figured it would be. Time is an issue. If I devote a day to one, the rest may not be done for a week.
 
better off clearing it shortly after you paint it, wont make a differance if you clear it on or off the car,you will risk getting finger prints all over the paint. especially white. if you wanted to you could edge evry thing (paint all the edges that will be hard to get like inners on the fenders and doors and under the hood etc..) then put every thing on the car in a day or 2 when the edging is hard. then back mask all the gaps and holes and edges and shoot the whole car as one. better blend from pannel to pannel that way, but if its all the same color that part wont be an issue. either one of those 2 ways will work fine. proly better off doing them off the car.
i thought clear was supposed to go on shortly(like and hour) after the basecoat, while the basecoat is still wet

or is that just for certain types of paint?
 
Originally Posted by turbo-tom
better off clearing it shortly after you paint it,

yeah the sooner the better. i think base can go up to 12 hrs before you have to scuff and re shoot
and even from there you should only have to do 1 or 2 coats
my main point was that you dont want to paint a car in pieces, especialy white then try to fit the parts on
then try to clear cause your going to have all kinds of problems. finger prints and fish eyes are a definate.
any oils left on the surface are gunna cause the paint to not stick there, it flows off the oil and leaves a depression and a spot.
thats a tangent tho
so yes the sooner the better but make sure you give the paint the proper flash time.
not the greatest thing to put clear on glossy base. 30 min to an hr is proly good.
 
It depends on what type of paint you use. From what I remember of sherwin williams paint products, you can clear over your base coat up to 7 days.
You have to let your base dry before you clear coat which half an hour it should be close to being dry enough for clear coat.
 
It depends on what type of paint you use. From what I remember of sherwin williams paint products, you can clear over your base coat up to 7 days.
You have to let your base dry before you clear coat which half an hour it should be close to being dry enough for clear coat.
what paint is this that you actually have to let the base coat dry before shooting clear?? never heard of that ever.

you need to shoot base and clear on the same day unless you want a hack job when you get done and want your paint flaking off from a door ding. thats why they have flash times on the paints you shoot
 
what paint is this that you actually have to let the base coat dry before shooting clear?? never heard of that ever.

you need to shoot base and clear on the same day unless you want a hack job when you get done and want your paint flaking off from a door ding. thats why they have flash times on the paints you shoot
what I meant was let the paint flash. Im kind of funny about this, its not going to hurt anything if you spray clear later,they usually suggest flash time is 15-30 minutes before you can put your clear coat on, but yes the longer you wait your more prone to getting dust ect. Depending on where your painting if its in a controlled enviroment like a paint booth for a day or so I dont think you will have to much problems with dust, ect. If preped correctly!
 
what paint is this that you actually have to let the base coat dry before shooting clear?? never heard of that ever.

you need to shoot base and clear on the same day unless you want a hack job when you get done and want your paint flaking off from a door ding. thats why they have flash times on the paints you shoot

I am not sure what kind of backround you have but your statment is completly false. If what you are saying is true, then say i am doing a two tone paint job and lets say the flash time is 30 min, what you are saying is that while i am taping off for the second color and it takes me over 30 mins to tape and paint the second color then the first color is gonna flack away ohnoes: . You have time with most base coats, you dont have to clear within a sertain amount of time. I am not saying a week later is ok but if you wait an extra hour its not a big deal.
 
I am not sure what kind of backround you have but your statment is completly false. If what you are saying is true, then say i am doing a two tone paint job and lets say the flash time is 30 min, what you are saying is that while i am taping off for the second color and it takes me over 30 mins to tape and paint the second color then the first color is gonna flack away ohnoes: . You have time with most base coats, you dont have to clear within a sertain amount of time. I am not saying a week later is ok but if you wait an extra hour its not a big deal.
the paint i use says to clear within 12 hours, or you have to lightly skuff with sand paper

never waited longer than an hour, so i dont kno what it would do
 
I am not sure what kind of backround you have but your statment is completly false. If what you are saying is true, then say i am doing a two tone paint job and lets say the flash time is 30 min, what you are saying is that while i am taping off for the second color and it takes me over 30 mins to tape and paint the second color then the first color is gonna flack away ohnoes: . You have time with most base coats, you dont have to clear within a sertain amount of time. I am not saying a week later is ok but if you wait an extra hour its not a big deal.
ok, did you see what i quoted to say that? hes talking about waiting a week later. and i was saying you want to shoot the clear within a 24 hour period, generally less than an hour after your base is on if your just shooting 1 color because you dont need to tape. and a little after an hour if your going to be taping off and doing a two tone. so you dont rip up anything you just laid down, and after an hour or two of setting the paint is safe to tape or touch with damaging it.

dont come and say that shit is completely false when you dont understand what was said. because if you do a two tone paint job over a two day period you cant just simply let it dry and shoot clear on top after a whole day has passed, you need to go back and do more prep or else its not gonna adhere like it should to the base coat.

he was talking about simply spraying base and then coming back and spraying clear before a 7 day period is up (which would be the full cure time of some paints)
 
Dood, i am not here to internet fight with you. Your post clearly says "you need to shoot base and clear on the same day unless you want a hack job when you get done and want your paint flaking off from a door ding." and thats what i commented on which is FALSE. Btw, its not like i paint everyday of my life or anything......:biggrin:

Moving on.....
 
http://www.spraygunworld.com/Information2/FinishlineIIIKIT.htm

ok for a hobbyist like me?

Or any recomendations for what I am doing. Dong one full car, a possible respray on another, bumpers and trim on another. (thats what is planned at least, I am sure more things will arise.) Something Reliable, lays down good, least chance of orange peel, etc...
 
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