I have a friend who is curious and would like to know if it is at all possible to swap a MKIV motor into a 1986 Celica. Wasn't sure, figured I would ask at the source. I know that Supra is RWD and Celica is FWD.
I was actually wondering the very same thing as I wanted to aim the car more toward a Road Racing type of car. With me being NA I am already lighter and then with a 3S-GTE that would lighten the car even more and give it better 50/50 weight distribution and the motor should be able to hit 400-500 rwhp and be a VERY good contender on the track. Anyone have any idea where you could get the custom motor mounts Top Secret used or even if anyone would make anything of the sort?grego2 said:So how difficult would it be to put a 3sgte into a mkiv?
I have been thinking about a swap like this since I saw the first Top Secret Supra(the white one).
Email or pm me with some details.
What type of spec racing do you think I was reffering too? That's right JGTC, but the original poster probably doesn't have a clue about it so I said it the way I did. And you really think that those 3SGTE that are used in that series or the 503E used in Pikes Peak and IMSA GTP are some run of the mill production motors? Then I have bridge to sell you... While you have little bits and pieces of info here and there you might think is correct, I've been watching Toyota's racing program for over 14 years now starting back with Dan Gurney's Eagle MKIII's and the 503E that people mistaken for a 3SGTE, to the Firestone Firehawk series with the MR2 Turbos to Rod Millen's Pikes Peak Celica to the Controversy of Toyota Japan not allowing Toyota USA to race in LeMans with their Eagle MKIII's and possibly beating them(Toy USA won the 24 Hours of Daytona previously and killed it's class) so don't even bother getting into this with me, I've forgot more on this subject then you'll ever know.MADMKIV said:Replacing the 2JZGTE with a 3SGTE is stupid as fuck except for some sort of spec car racing , the 2JZ will not fit in that Celica w/o serious fabrication and tons of Cash ($30k and up) and this whole thread stinks like ass.
ThomsonCharm said:Some of the fastest track racing Supras are using the 3S-GTE and not the 2JZ-GTE. If you want good track racing its more about a balance of weight and being lightweight. NOT 1000 horsepower. I see you have one of Toyotas Race cars in your Avatar. You ever heard of the Castrol Supra? Ever wonder what motor that car was using? As well as MANY other JGTC Race Cars. The 2JZ-GTE is one of the best motor for all out power but it doesnt balance the car as well as the 3S-GTE hence the reason why your best track cars use a motor that balances the car better and can still extract quite a bit of horsepowe from them.
There is a Pikes Peak I believe Celica that is using the 3S-GTE tuned to 1000 horsepower. So its not like the motor has no potential.
Edit: My bad I just looked it up and its 800 horsepower.
Oh my god you would have thought I slept with your daughter or something.... From your first post actually YES I did think I was telling you something new. Speaking of reading past posts I specified how I wanted to use mine in some kind of road racing application. Im sorry your such God of Toyota's past racing motors and you know what your talking about. How the hell am I supposed to know that from your original post? I do however appreciate you ACTUALLY explaining shit this time and not just sitting on your throne telling everyone what you "know" with no valid proof. It goes alot farther that way..... I would appreciate it if you could "school" me earlier and without the "holier then thou" attitude but whatever either way I learned more then I knew before.MADMKIV said:You think you're telling me something new??? Did you actually read my first post correctly?
You can thank me for schooling you
Dont ever underestimate me or my ability to learn or I will surpass you simply out of spite. :tool:MADMKIV said:I've forgot more on this subject then you'll ever know.[/B]