[Fabbz]

Can anyone answer me this?

How heavy is the 7MGTE and how heavy is the 1JZ-GTE (2.5 TT Model - series 1)

 

[Ckanderson]

From what I remember they are VERY close in weight. I dont know the exact amount. but just to let ya know... your really not gonna save any weight with one engine over the other. (IIRC)

 

[JonnyRedline]

cmon everyone knows teh torqueless wonder of the 1j's secret to being soo torqueless is cuz it weighs 80 tons..gosh!!

 

[ZaZZn]

1jz if fking heavy thats for sure...4 grown men trying to lift that fuk#er and it was heavy as hell still.

them turbos aint light.

 

[-=Supra=-He's_BACK]

in the 2jz the turbos weigh at least 60 lbs, when i was swapping my friends turbos out of his car i almost lost a finger when i was pulling out the old setup....so im assuming they are pretty close in weight.

 

[blackout_89t]

1jz if fking heavy thats for sure...4 grown men trying to lift that fuk#er and it was heavy as hell still.

them turbos aint light.

Fucken eh. Mind you that was a fully assembled 1J.

And I believe it was 5 guys.

 

[jz_killa_t68]

the 7mgte weighs close to 500 lbs-494 without intercooler piping, dp, wiring harness, injectors, power steering pump and throttle body. I can't remember if that is the weight with or without the a/c compressor. I just shipped one out a few weeks ago, and that was how much she weighed.

 

[Tska]

My 7m-gte with manifolds shipped at 214lbs without turbos. It had TB, both manifolds, and a complete head. 214 lbs according to RL Carriers. The 7m does not weigh anything remotely close to 500 lbs.

As far as weight relative to the 1JZ, any weight gains will be countered by power gains, especially on the 1JZ-GTE.

 

[jz_killa_t68]

My 7m-gte with manifolds shipped at 214lbs without turbos. It had TB, both manifolds, and a complete head. 214 lbs according to RL Carriers. The 7m does not weigh anything remotely close to 500 lbs.

As far as weight relative to the 1JZ, any weight gains will be countered by power gains, especially on the 1JZ-GTE.

you got a deal. tell me how 4 grown men have problems trying to lift a 214 lb engine off of a truck. their scale is broken.

 

[limequat]

My 7m-gte with manifolds shipped at 214lbs without turbos. It had TB, both manifolds, and a complete head. 214 lbs according to RL Carriers. The 7m does not weigh anything remotely close to 500 lbs.

As far as weight relative to the 1JZ, any weight gains will be countered by power gains, especially on the 1JZ-GTE.

Lol, if you have any more of those lightweight engines I'll take 2!
I think what you meant to say is that it was 214 kg.

According to my sources a 1992 7M (with manual trans) = 212 KG
and a 1994 2JZ (with manual trans) = 252 KG.

For the math impaired, that's 466 lbs and 554 lbs, respectively. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand genades, but it's a whole lot closer to 500 lbs than 214 lbs.

 

[jz_killa_t68]

if you subtract the 30 lbs or so for the pallet the 494 gets bumped down to 464-sounds about perfect

 

[Clifton]

7MGTE complete with ac compressor/wiring and R154 is 640 lbs.

 

[figgie]

i know the short block for the 7m (no head or ANYTHING weighs in at 265lbs. I can lift the short block myself. Now add the head and all that and it quickly starts to pack on weight

 

[Fabbz]

Ok kewl, so the 1JZ is heavier then the 7M.

The only reason I ask is because I have springs for the MA70 with 7MGTE and I am getting a 1JZ swapped into it, so Im thinking I will need to get harder springs for the difference in engine weight.

What do you think?

 

[Clifton]

I don't think so. I can't see the 1JZ being any lighter than a 2JZ.

2JZ-GTE Alone 594 lbs
+ Getrag Six Speed 746lbs

 

[NeverNZ]

I don't think so. I can't see the 1JZ being any lighter than a 2JZ.

2JZ-GTE Alone 594 lbs
+ Getrag Six Speed 746lbs

the 1jz has a slightly smaller engine block

also the turbos are smaller and have ceramic turbine blades, not much of a difference but it adds up

 

[Clifton]

Ok, subtract 10 lbs for block 10 grams for cermaic turbines . In a 3500 lb MKIII don't think it matters.

 

[Jewishjalopi]

r154 is fairly light though, i can pick it up and carry it around myself. Plus both motors have it, so it doesnt count.

 

[psychot|K]

I dunno about this... tons of people say that after they do the 1JZ swap, the front fender gap goes up by 1/2 - 1/4 of an inch. I say the 1JZ is lighter and cooler and more JDM TYTE.

 

[Clifton]

I dunno about this... tons of people say that after they do the 1JZ swap, the front fender gap goes up by 1/2 - 1/4 of an inch. I say the 1JZ is lighter and cooler and more JDM TYTE.

There's an accurate way to compare weight.


I got this from an archive Celica list.

1JZ GTE, 645 lbs for the engine and trans.