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OK, I am starting to do research on what components I want to put into my new shortblock, and in doing so, I have been emailing some of these companies trying to get all the weights of different hardware, but they are slow to respond so far. If you have ANY info that you can add to this, please do so, as it will help out bigtime. There are probably more companies out there that I would be glad to add to the list, but I am just starting with the ones I know of. If this thread gets enough detail and input from everyone over time, it may just become a sticky :) . I am going to use the middle of the road 86.5mm pistons, when available, as a baseline to compare them all. If the company does not make an 86.5mm, I will input whatever is closest. I would think that from any manufacturer, you would just add or subtract 5-10 either way when stepping up or down. That will keep this list a little more organized looking. Here is what I have so far. The ones in GREEN have been officially hand weighed by someone and are not just manufacturers specs, which we all know are not the most accurate :) :

Pistons

STOCK - 86mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 407g / Pin 132g / Rings / Clips / Total Weight = ~ 565-575g

Mahle 4032 - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 313g / Pin (.197" Wall) 101g / Rings 22g / Clips 1g / Total Weight = 437g

Mahle 2618 - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 340g / Pin (.197" Wall) 102g / Rings 22g / Clips 1g / Total Weight = 465g

Wiseco - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 351g / Pin (.157" Wall) 112g / Rings 21g / Clips 2g / Total Weight = 486g

JE - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 330g / Pin (.?" Wall) 97g / Rings 20-25g / Clips 1-2g / Total Weight = ~ 451g

Manley - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 355g / Pin (.150" Wall) 106g / Rings 20-25g / Clips 2g / Total Weight = ~ 485g

Probe - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 335g / Pin (.126" Wall) 65g / Rings 20-25g / Clips 2g / Total Weight = ~ 425g

Arias - 86.5mm / 8:9:1 / Piston 355g / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Toda - 86mm / 8:6:1 / Piston / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

HKS - 87mm / Comp ? / Piston 344g / Pin (.?" Wall) 110g / Rings 20-25g / Clips 1-2g / Total Weight = ~ 478g

CP - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 322g / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Crower - 86.5mm / 8:5:1 / Piston 338g / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Titan Street - 86.5mm / Comp ? / Piston 364g / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Titan Ultimate - 86.5mm / Comp ? / Piston / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Titan Billet - 86.5mm / Comp ? / Piston / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Greddy / Grex - 86.5mm / Comp ? / Piston / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

Tomei - 86.5mm / Comp ? / Piston / Pin / Rings / Clips / Total Weight

JUN C Series (Cosworth) - 87mm / ? / Piston 342g / Pin (.?" Wall) 99g / Rings 20-25g / Clips 1-2g / Total Weight = ~ 465g

Wossner - 86.5mm / Comp ? / Piston 303g / Pin (.?" Wall) 98g / Rings 20-25g / Clips 1-2g / Total Weight = ~ 425g


Rods

STOCK = 761g with OEM Bolts

Maxspeedingrod = 634g with ? bolts

Wossner H-Beam = 570g with ? bolts

JUN I-Beam = 590g with ? bolts

K1 = 558g with 3/8" ARP2000 / ~ 563g with 3/8" Custom Age 625 / ~ 565g with 3/8" MP35N (like Carrillo's "Carr")

Manley H Beam = 552g with 3/8" ARP2000 / ~ 556g with 3/8" Custom Age 625

Manley Turbo Tuff = 705g with 3/8" ARP2000 / ~ 709g with 3/8" Custom Age 625

Brian Crower Pro Series = 608g with 3/8" Custom Age 625

Carillo A Beam = 524g with 3/8" WMC

Carillo SA ?? = 569g with 3/8" WMC

Carillo H Beam = 600g with 3/8" Carr / 594g with 3/8" WMC

Carillo H Beam HD = 606g with 3/8" Carr / 601g with 3/8" WMC

Eagle ESP = 590g with 3/8" ARP2000 / * Eagle told me L19 is NOT an option on the Supra, only on domestics.

Crower I Beam = 552g with ?

Crower Titanium = 392g with ? bolts

HKS = 600g with ? bolts

Pauter = 680g with 3/8" ARP2000

Pauter Titanium = ? with 3/8" ARP2000

Venolia

Oliver

Greddy

Tomei H-Beam = 604g with ARP L19 bolts

GRP

SCAT


If anyone can add anything, even for the rods that I havent started yet, PLEASE help me fill in the blanks. this would help out many people from searching all over the place for the answers. Thanks in advance!

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Can anyone answer me this question. Are wrist pins interchangeable between manufacturers? For example, could I use a JE wrist pin on a Wiseco piston, as long as the specs are the same as far as width, wall thickness, diameter, etc...? Thanks!
 

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Here's a few more for ya:

Arias 86.50mm 355g
Arias 87.00mm 362g
CP 86.50mm 322g
Crower 338g Bore: 3.405, +.020 - Comp: 8.5:1
HKS 87.00mm Forged 384g Pin 112 Grams
JE 86.50mm Forged 330g na
JE 87.00mm Forged 333g na
JUN C Series (Cosworth) 87.00mm 343g Pin 104 Grams - Cosworth part# PA1737
JUN W Series (Wossner) 86.50mm 362g OE Comp 8.5:1 - Wossner Comp 8.0:1 - Wossner Part# K9057D050
JUN W Series (Wossner) 87.00mm 362g OE Comp 8.5:1 - Wossner Comp 8.0:1 - Wossner Part# K9057D100
Mahle 87.00mm 332.5g Pro Series Pistons
Stock 86.00mm 407 Grams

Rods:

Brian Crower I Beam 495g Bolt 57g
Carillo H beams 580g
Carillo incl bolts 602g
Crower Titanium 392g
Eagle 594g
Pauters 680g
Stock Rod stripped 761g
Stock Rod with bearing 800g
Stock Wrist Pin 132g
 

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Here's a few more for ya:

Arias 86.50mm 355g
Arias 87.00mm 362g
CP 86.50mm 322g
Crower 338g Bore: 3.405, +.020 - Comp: 8.5:1
HKS 87.00mm Forged 384g Pin 112 Grams
JE 86.50mm Forged 330g na
JE 87.00mm Forged 333g na
JUN C Series (Cosworth) 87.00mm 343g Pin 104 Grams - Cosworth part# PA1737
JUN W Series (Wossner) 86.50mm 362g OE Comp 8.5:1 - Wossner Comp 8.0:1 - Wossner Part# K9057D050
JUN W Series (Wossner) 87.00mm 362g OE Comp 8.5:1 - Wossner Comp 8.0:1 - Wossner Part# K9057D100
Mahle 87.00mm 332.5g Pro Series Pistons
Stock 86.00mm 407 Grams

Rods:

Brian Crower I Beam 495g Bolt 57g
Carillo H beams 580g
Carillo incl bolts 602g
Crower Titanium 392g
Eagle 594g
Pauters 680g
Stock Rod stripped 761g
Stock Rod with bearing 800g
Stock Wrist Pin 132g
Badass! Working on adding them now :) . Thanks you very much!
 

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No probs dude.

Would be a good idea if you get a mod to maybe make this a sticky.

This sorta info is very useful to alot of people when it comes to planning a build
 

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Oh, and by the way, if anyone happens to have these actual pieces sitting at home waiting to install them, and happen to have a gram scale nearby, PLEASE make sure we got the numbers right and/or post what you come up with so that I can add to the list. Thanks in advance!
 

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No probs dude.

Would be a good idea if you get a mod to maybe make this a sticky.

This sorta info is very useful to alot of people when it comes to planning a build
I will definitely check on that possibility once it is more complete. I agree that it is always nice to have lots of info in one organized place.
 

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The Tomei H-Beam rods I have are 604g with bolts (come with ARP L19 bolts). Never weighed the pistons or pins myself, sorry.

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just a qiick thought. Ive read that the vvti rods are smaller than the non vvti rods. Is there any weight difference?? If so what is it??



further research indicates they are the same
 

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No. I do not know for certain on all manufacturers, but I do know that CP and JE are different lengths. Different pin boss designs will dictate pin length. There is a lot to look at in piston design.

Can anyone answer me this question. Are wrist pins interchangeable between manufacturers? For example, could I use a JE wrist pin on a Wiseco piston, as long as the specs are the same as far as width, wall thickness, diameter, etc...? Thanks!
 

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just a qiick thought. Ive read that the vvti rods are smaller than the non vvti rods. Is there any weight difference?? If so what is it??



further research indicates they are the same
Only VVT-i 2JZ-GE rods are smaller.

All 2JZ-GTE (non and VVT-i) and the 2JZ-GE non-VVT-i have the larger rods.

Jeff
 
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