Werd.unless they are all on the same tire it's a ridiculous comparison.
That is not an apples to apples argument and is almost a red herring.As for the tires - this was a comparison of stock cars as delivered from the factory. Arguing that Motor Trend should supply a spec tire to "even the playing field" is silly. Why stop there - why not add some boost to the Evo and a reflash to the 335i? And maybe some coilovers for the MS3 and a supercharger for the S2000 while you are at it?
Their argument - and I believe it is completely viable - is that the tires are a part of the platform. If you want to be disappointed in someone for the tires on a particular vehicle, you should be looking at any of the manufacturers that supplied an "inferior" tire.If you want to measure the handling of a platform you should remove as many variables as possible. Equalizing tires is a significant way to do so.
How do you mean? It's an enthusiast magazine that is largely geared toward factory, stock production cars. They do their "tuner car" bits every now and then, but unlike the boutique magazines like Turbo, SCC, Modified, etc that is not their bread and butter.But hey -- they're so worried about their advertiser base it changes their focus IMO.
Yep -- I know that's their argument. I just think it's a ricidulous one. I always purchase better tires for my cars when I acquire the car.Their argument - and I believe it is completely viable - is that the tires are a part of the platform.
Those are fundamental characteristics of a car. Tires do not fall in that category. I'm sorry, but your argument here is not apples to apples.With that in mind, it is not unreasonable to say that the Cooper was the "real winner" based on value or the Z06 was the "real winner" based on how well it performed despite being handicapped by the manufacturer with shitty run-flats, or the Evo was the "real winner" because its performance would have moved past the other top finishers with some coilovers and basic bolt-ons while still costing significantly less. Ad nauseum.
I'll leave that determination to someone who has the time and money to define and execute a proper comparison test. I understand you disagree strongly with me, but trying to change the subject isn't taking away from my points.On top of that, which spec tire should they have chosen?
I would argue that the spec tire is comparable to restrictor plates, pop-off valves, weight limits, turbo restrictions and all sorts of artificial limiters to performance used by sanctioning bodies to try and keep dissimilar platforms on a relatively level playing field.If the tire were truly part of the platform then why is there a spec tire in organized racing? Equality and fair comparison.
Fair enough - you feel that testing 100% stock, as-delivered cars puts the results of the article "near irrelevance" and "ridiculous." You seem to suggest that, were you to own a Porsche GT3 or a Lotus Exige or an Evo, you would immediately replace the stock tires with something else.I understand you disagree strongly with me, but trying to change the subject isn't taking away from my points.