I think I saw the one's you are referring to in the FS section. They are already sold, didn't last but a day or two. I would have jumped on them but they were 18x8 and 18x9. I don't want to go with a narrower width than stock on the rears, actually I want a 10 width minimum. In addition he said spacers were needed for the fronts and there was some slight scuffing on one or two of the rims. I'm going new if I get these.