BMW M5 Twin Turbo and M7 Prototypes

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Enzox

Discussion Starter · Sep 10, 2007

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The horsepower race is on, again! BMW's M5 was king of the hill with its hi-revving 507hp V10 until Mercedes released the E 63 AMG with 511hp. Surely only just a few extra horsepower but it still counts as the German premium marques compete with each other.

Now, there’s a new kid in town - the twin-turbo V10 Audi RS 6. With its massive 580 horsepower under the hood, it is speculated that Audi has understated the true horsepower figure of 600hp. How long will the RS 6 hold the throne? Well, most likely until the new Mercedes E 63 AMG is released in mid 2009 with a unconfirmed 544hp, however, it seems based upon these latest spy photos that BMW may have a trick or two planned.

Evidence shows BMW is preparing a slightly more evil version of the M5, and this time it appears to be twin-turbos! According to the photographer who snapped this M5 prototype, the engine sound was different from the usual M5. In addition, clearly visible are the extra air intakes cut in the front bumper. However, take a closer look inside the lower air duct openings on the sides of the front bumper and you'll notice a verticle flap which redirects the air flow into what appears to be sitting behind an intercooler for a turbo.

And while we are on the subject, why not speculate about the testing of an 7 Series based M7. The pictured 7-series prototype has shows a few clues beyind the normal 7-series prototypes that we have been seeing lately. Check out the big air scoop in the hood and two smaller air outlets at the back edge of the hood. Could this be the sign we have been hoping for? It’s known that the new 7 series will be sportier and more fun to drive, so why shouldn’t there also be an M7, after all to compete with Mercedes' S 65 AMG and Audi's potential RS8?

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Benz F1

· #2 · Sep 10, 2007

Wow is all I have to say.....Im so glad to be living in these times even if I aint got the money to buy one right now....Cant wait for more info/tests etc..

Romancer

· #3 · Sep 10, 2007

Benz F1 said:
Wow is all I have to say.....Im so glad to be living in these times even if I aint got the money to buy one right now....Cant wait for more info/tests etc..

I agree, its INSANE. :lol:

Every manufacturer is pushing the envelope.

alpha6164

· #4 · Sep 10, 2007

Now I will be definitely looking at these two when they come out. I really did want a 7-series last year. But even the 760 v12 is a pig with no more than 440hp. Thats why I ended up buying the CLS55. Now if there was a TTM5 or M7 with 500+hp and four doors, then count me in

electrikoptik

· #5 · Sep 11, 2007

Such an exciting time. Turbo factory cars are making a big come back!

GTR-33

· #6 · Sep 11, 2007

electrikoptik said:
Such an exciting time. Turbo factory cars are making a big come back!

If you have 100K+ to drop on a car, then yes these are really exciting times...

What we need are more cars like these on a lighter budget. Like an M version of the upcoming 1 series sedan. Or better yet something that is more affordable to the average guy. The M3 will likely be somewhere around 60K give or take. The US M5 is 85K and the US M6 is 100K. A TT M5 would easily hit 100K and considering the 760Li is already 120K an M7 would likely be more than 150K. So even if BMW made an M1, it would probably be in the 40K range. Exciting times alright.

Cars like the M5, RS6, CLS63, E63 etc are great, but where is a car for the who makes less than 300K a year?

Shostakovich33

· #7 · Sep 11, 2007

335i is around 58k highly optioned. ??? Still a bit steep but better than what was mentioned above.

Scott94TT

· #8 · Sep 11, 2007

That seems awfully speculative. I have a hard time believing we're going to see a twin turbo V10 M5.

GTR-33

· #9 · Sep 11, 2007

Shostakovich33 said:
335i is around 58k highly optioned. ??? Still a bit steep but better than what was mentioned above.

Highly optioned? I'm talking BASE PRICE. Not one with EVERY OPTION checked. 335ci starts at 40K. Not everyone buys the auto trans, first aid kit, cold weather package or active cruise control.

Shostakovich33

· #10 · Sep 11, 2007

So there you go....40k twin turbo I6. 60k less than the ridic price on the other cars mentioned, gotta pay to play.

GTR-33

· #11 · Sep 11, 2007

Shostakovich33 said:
So there you go....40k twin turbo I6. 60k less than the ridic price on the other cars mentioned, gotta pay to play.

Can you not read? I said a car like an M1 FOR 40K. I understand speed costs money, but a 335i is hardly on par with something like an M car. Yes the 335i is faster than the old US M3, but that isn't the point. The US M3 was a bad watered down version of the German counterpart.

Try to keep up. 100K cars are hardly exciting to someone who can only afford to spend 40K on a car. So I said they should make an highly performing M version of the upcoming 1 Series to appease those that want a BMW and performance in one package. More and more you see performance cars that are more than just performance, they are super luxury performance cars. Cars like the IS-F, M5, RS6, CLS63 all cater to people who also have Ferraris and Lamborghinis in their stables or could afford to anyway.

Where are the pure bread performance cars for the masses? I can't afford a high dollar, low production super saloon. I simply argued that while the technology is exciting, and the cars are great, but these are only exciting times if you have 100K to drop on a car.

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STAGED

· #12 · Sep 11, 2007

More displacement. More cylinders. More revs.

Those tricks exhausted to practical levels now.

Automakers cannot escape from boost now if they want to stay at the top of the food chain.

TrueSlideXL

· #13 · Sep 11, 2007

That is no M7, there may be an M7 but I doubt that is it there. BMW is just testing their turbo BMW, whether or not that is a diesel or a gas V8 and if it relates to a performance model remains to be seen.

TrueSlideXL

· #14 · Sep 11, 2007

GTR-33 said:
If you have 100K+ to drop on a car, then yes these are really exciting times...

What we need are more cars like these on a lighter budget. Like an M version of the upcoming 1 series sedan. Or better yet something that is more affordable to the average guy.

That is asking to throw the brand away to the wolves. The 335i and 135i will serve that void, anyone else asking for a BMW needs to increase their budget. Perhaps it is not how you want to come across and so I will apologize, but BMW is not a charity. Cars like the G8 and TT Lincolns are poised to fill the lower priced gap very nicely.

Shostakovich33

· #15 · Sep 11, 2007

GTR-33 said:
Can you not read? I said a car like an M1 FOR 40K. I understand speed costs money, but a 335i is hardly on par with something like an M car. Yes the 335i is faster than the old US M3, but that isn't the point. The US M3 was a bad watered down version of the German counterpart.

Try to keep up. 100K cars are hardly exciting to someone who can only afford to spend 40K on a car. So I said they should make an highly performing M version of the upcoming 1 Series to appease those that want a BMW and performance in one package. More and more you see performance cars that are more than just performance, they are super luxury performance cars. Cars like the IS-F, M5, RS6, CLS63 all cater to people who also have Ferraris and Lamborghinis in their stables or could afford to anyway.

Where are the pure bread performance cars for the masses? I can't afford a high dollar, low production super saloon. I simply argued that while the technology is exciting, and the cars are great, but these are only exciting times if you have 100K to drop on a car.

Im sorry I read 335i starts at 40k, didnt see your mention of the M1. I was just trying to provide a tangible suggestion to your quest for performance. A pure bread performance car when NEW cost money but you know that, esp if its a BMW. Domestic cars have always been the fall back for people who want the speed without paying for the luxury. C6 looks good to me...

I did not mean to offend but you took it to a whole new level for no reason. Finding any new car with a raw feel is going to be a hard thing to do without paying a pretty penny. All the same, the developments in the automotive industry are still very exciting to many people even though most cannot afford them. That is the reason many people are here and why posts mentioning million dollar Lamborghini's are made, because people have a passion. Many people would kill for and get extremely excited looking at a F40 even though over 90% of the population cannot afford to purchase and maintain one.

I too would like a true sports car for the masses but as technology raises the potential and capabilities of sports cars so does the price. Someone had to develop and put time into these cars and they damn well gotta be paid. I understand what your saying but dont understand why your saying it. You seem like a smart guy so you know that each of these brands has a reputation to maintain as well as money to make. I did not mean to rub you the wrong way which I obviously have for some reason...

Back on topic, I dont know how well an M7 would sell as there has got to be a limit to the sports car/ luxury line. A TT M5 would be a bit crazy and most likely serve MOST consumers thirst for both aspects mentioned above. Thanks for the info none the less Enzox.

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hdawg06

· #16 · Sep 11, 2007

I always love your posts, you always post about the most awesome cars. I am SO happy to be living in during this performance rennaissance!

Steve Theodore

· #17 · Sep 11, 2007

Looks like an FMIC lurking behind the bumper cover of that M5. Wow...that would be nuts, even in a pretty conservative state of trim. :bigthumb:

ZishanM

· #18 · Sep 12, 2007 (Edited)

^^ I think thats the radiator, if you look closely into the opening on the lower driver side, you can see the side mount, I am sure there is another on the other side. The smic has a black end tank.

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