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Why would we NOT want the 350mm rotors to ensure full pad coverage? I don’t like the idea of the 330mm and the pads on the edge and it looking like too small of a rotor for the caliper
 

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FOr the rear evo brake calipers - 08 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer EVO look identical to the 03-05 rear calipers. Are there any differences that isn't shown in pictures?
 

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they bolted up , but i had to get wheel spacer to clear my rims(18" RPF1s) i'm using 25 mm but i believe 20 mm would have worked. Now i have slight tire exposure, but not a lot. I will probably swap out to the 20mm down the road.

These breaks Work!!! did a 250Km/h pull and they worked great. What this car should have came with to begin with :(

Now time to address the rears. Aside from the evo, anything else? The mk4 rears i heard work too?
I know its a fairly old thread but have some questions.

What offset are your RPF1s without the spacer? I'm looking at doing this mod but don't want to if the wheels I want won't clear.

Also has anyone tried this rotor MB 4474210012? Apparently fits but have yet to find a thread on it. Someone posted on facebook about it being an option. Comes on the 2018 MB Metris Van. Can get pretty cheap on rockauto. Claims to not need washers which I assume would help with wheel clearance?

Any updates to other possible parts to use? I'd like to collect it all and store on my site because doing so on a forum or on facebook will get buried in the comments with corrections or possible other solutions.
 

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I know its a fairly old thread but have some questions.

What offset are your RPF1s without the spacer? I'm looking at doing this mod but don't want to if the wheels I want won't clear.

Also has anyone tried this rotor MB 4474210012? Apparently fits but have yet to find a thread on it. Someone posted on facebook about it being an option. Comes on the 2018 MB Metris Van. Can get pretty cheap on rockauto. Claims to not need washers which I assume would help with wheel clearance?

Any updates to other possible parts to use? I'd like to collect it all and store on my site because doing so on a forum or on facebook will get buried in the comments with corrections or possible other solutions.
When I search that pn all that comes up is 300mm listings so I would say that it will not work unless you are ok with pad overhang.
 

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Bolt on 4-Piston front MB brakes & 2-Piston rear Evo brakes

Got my brake set up on. I have +30 work emotions in the front 18x8.5 and they clear by a mile.



Also, I had my hub centric rings for the rotors lathed to 0.268” thickness so they were flush with the rotor face. Paid a machine shop to do it instead of gumming them up myself.




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When I search that pn all that comes up is 300mm listings so I would say that it will not work unless you are ok with pad overhang.
Ah good point. Didn't even dawn on me to look at that. Thanks man.

And Elibutton, those look nice. How did you spray on that brembo logo?
 

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I picked up some cheap high temp vinyl decals off eBay, then sprayed high temp clear over them.

I used the r350 rotors. Picked up the slotted stop tech version off Rock Auto. A little pricey but they look and perform nice.


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No downside with slotted rotors, no.


I've been having some very annoying issues with the rear pad material. I originally purchased HPS pads (5.0 material) for the Evo rear brakes, and unless I heated them up a LOT they wouldn't have any initial bite. This was aggravating for brake boosting at the drag strip, at least half of the time I'd push through the brakes.

According to this site on page 2: https://www.tirerack.com/images/pdf/product/Hawk-Compound-Charts.pdf what I'm seeing is pretty obvious, the pad needs to be heated up before it really grabs.

I bought some HPS HP plus pads (part # HB180N.560) which, according to that chart on page 2, has excellent initial bite, and man, its a world of difference. Initial bite is amazing no matter the outside temperature and I haven't pushed through the brakes once.

For what its worth!
 

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Has anyone had any luck getting the MK4 NA wheels to fit with this brake setup? I've heard that with a spacer they might fit.
 

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Posting this here for future reference. These are the pads I'm using with this setup (with hella pagid R350 rotors) and they work excellent. Really good bite and fade resistance. No squeals as long as the usual anti squeal grease is applied to the piston contact area. I wore a set out now and had to figure out what pad brand and number I had installed so posting this here so I can find it easier, hopefully, next time.

 

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IM being told the reason why MK4 guys don't use the Evo upgrade is that the bolts used in the MK4(i believe the same for MK3) is M12 vs M10, and you only get to tighten the setup by the bracket and there will be wiggle with the actual bolt, so they passe don it. Apparently the bracket has no extra material to be bored to M12.

Mk3 guys who have done the evo 8 rear upgrades, can you chime in?

Also, anyone here who has successfully put MK4 rear brakes in the MK3? I find random threads with no real step by step, or detailed explanation of the swap. Someone near me claims they did it with no modifications at all, but i read that the surface area of the pads won't cover all of the rotor do to alignment and so on.

a nice step by step write up for the mk4s like in here for the Mercedes and Evo would be appreciated.


Thank you.
 

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IM being told the reason why MK4 guys don't use the Evo upgrade is that the bolts used in the MK4(i believe the same for MK3) is M12 vs M10, and you only get to tighten the setup by the bracket and there will be wiggle with the actual bolt, so they passe don it. Apparently the bracket has no extra material to be bored to M12.

Mk3 guys who have done the evo 8 rear upgrades, can you chime in?

Also, anyone here who has successfully put MK4 rear brakes in the MK3? I find random threads with no real step by step, or detailed explanation of the swap. Someone near me claims they did it with no modifications at all, but i read that the surface area of the pads won't cover all of the rotor do to alignment and so on.

a nice step by step write up for the mk4s like in here for the Mercedes and Evo would be appreciated.


Thank you.
Why dont you do it and let everyone know what needs to be done. Be the change you want in this world instead of waiting around for other people to do it.

Everyone wants all these cool custom and great ways to do things but no one wants to put in the work to get them done and sorted.
 

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I don't see any wiggle when bolting the brake caliper to the spindle...if the bolt is tightened properly the only flex you'll get is in the aluminum brake caliper itself (aka not much at all, nothing you can feel or change by hand).
 

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Why dont you do it and let everyone know what needs to be done. Be the change you want in this world instead of waiting around for other people to do it.

Everyone wants all these cool custom and great ways to do things but no one wants to put in the work to get them done and sorted.
You're the same goof who trolled my last post, and i thought my reply slapped manners in you, clearly it didn't.

I took initiative blindly trusting the OP in this post
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Calipers: 2 used Mercedes-Benz W220 front calipers
2000-2006 S430/S500
both long and short mounting tabs work"

And lost coin doing that. Don't be that guy, and help instead of trying to bring someone down, especially when you're in the wrong.

I did my due diligence by searching for the MK4 upgrade and found vague references with no actual write ups. I'm not about to invest in a setup that may not actually work, Hence FORUMS and the knowledgeable people(not applicable to people like you).

The EVo mod is even more expensive, and again talking with my friend who owns a MK4, advised me against it for reasons i posted, so i am asking MK3 guys about it.

"I don't see any wiggle when bolting the brake caliper to the spindle...if the bolt is tightened properly the only flex you'll get is in the aluminum brake caliper itself (aka not much at all, nothing you can feel or change by hand). "

Thank you for the feedback Sidewinder.
 

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I don't see any wiggle when bolting the brake caliper to the spindle...if the bolt is tightened properly the only flex you'll get is in the aluminum brake caliper itself (aka not much at all, nothing you can feel or change by hand).


NO issues like the ones posted here right?
 

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#560 too

Velocity Racing Performance brought it to my attention that on the mk4 the bolt size is M12 and the Evo are M10.


They referenced me this pic by Cursed.#560 in the Link i posted

So the bolts are held in pressed against the side for the mk4 as shown above.

Is this the case in the mk3 also? Using an M10 bolt in an M12 hole?
 

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You're the same goof who trolled my last post, and i thought my reply slapped manners in you, clearly it didn't.

I took initiative blindly trusting the OP in this post

And lost coin doing that. Don't be that guy, and help instead of trying to bring someone down, especially when you're in the wrong.

I did my due diligence by searching for the MK4 upgrade and found vague references with no actual write ups. I'm not about to invest in a setup that may not actually work, Hence FORUMS and the knowledgeable people(not applicable to people like you).
Literally have no idea what you're talking about, some lasting impression you made slapping manners into me...

Not sure who you think I am, but I've done the research I talk about, I've build a brake setup from scratch, I designed my rotors, built my brackets and setup everything without any information I didn't gather myself. . I spend and lost "coin" figuring it out. I promise you the information you think you've done your due diligence on, I've been there.
If you don't do the research then it will never be available, it'll never happen. The knowledge will never float around the forums for other people to search. How do you think the information got here? Someone put in work and got it done! I absolutely was not bring anyone down, not sure how you got that. And what am I wrong about lol I simply said go get the information yourself haha.

My point of my previous comment was to get you to go out and get all that information you seek so there's more of it out there, so maybe just maybe someone like yourself would be able to find it.

I don't recall having a shit attitude or demeanor like you're so kindly having with me, if I wanted to be a dick I would have.

lighten up a little bit dude
 
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