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Bought 93 NA 5Speed need advice

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#1 · (Edited)
So i bought this 1993 Supra NA 5 Speed. (coming froma 2006 EVO) Has salvage title and 143k Miles. It is truly in remarkable condition, and I saw the before pictures as well. (missing fender and smashed in rear bumper area).

Anyhow, the carfax shows good things as far as maintenance up to the wreck. Its all stock, even the airbox. Interior is real nice. Targa is nice. Overall the car loks great.

So, my questions are the following:

*What mileage is to high to consider single turbo upgrades? Should I just wait for the stock engine to die before turbo'ing it? Or just build the motor first?

* What is the right offset for 19" wheels so that they fit perfectly?

* Average price for 98 Headlights/tail lights?

*Things to look out for with this mileage?

*Some common sources for parts?

*Is there a parts list to upgrade the brakes to TT brakes and is it super difficult?

*Anything else you think I should know?

Once I finalize the deal I will post pictures. It is SUPER clean for what it is, you would never guess it has the mileage and salvage title.

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#2 ·
The bad thing is that you won't get too much help on a forum when you ask too many questions.

The good thing is that almost all of your questions have been answered. Supraforums has so many knowledgable car guys/girls and for those with similar questions have been answered.

Just try the search engine and you will see. But a couple answers to get you started since you're new to the forum.

headlights (depending on condition)- 500-800
taillights (new)- 180

don't worry about the mileage, and my advice before turbo is to get a good feel of the car and learn about it before jumping into it.

Welcome to the forum! and POST pics!!
 
#12 ·
lets answer some questions...

What mileage is to high to consider single turbo upgrades? Should I just wait for the stock engine to die before turbo'ing it? Or just build the motor first?
i would drive the GE as an everyday (as long as it runs w/o problems) and build the gte on the side. This will allow you to learn the car a little bit. building the motor on the side will also keep you from renting or borrowing a car if this is your 1 n only DD. i dont know your income or your exact aspirations for the car, so i dont know how long it would take you to build your motor but from the description i would guestimate 40k miles before the engine may need some additional work. So if you could complete the project around then i think youll be alright.

What is the right offset for 19" wheels so that they fit perfectly?
For the wheels its really a matter of opinion. Mine just happens to be +20mm (Width 9.5) in the back and +45mm (Width 8.5) in the front. So with my biased opinion........... theyre perfect. :)

Things to look out for with this mileage?
My NA alternator died at about 150k miles, so you may want to watch out for that if it hasnt already been replaced. If it has the service records take a look at what has been replaced and what hasnt. I recommend you give your car to a professional mechanic YOU TRUST to assess the situation. This could give you an idea of how much you may be looking to spend down the road if you decide to keep the NA motor in.

Some common sources for parts?
Common source of OEM parts would have to be curt from elmhurst toyota, hes one of the forum sponsors. For aftermarket parts i recommend you go to the section of the forums that reads "Shops & Part Reviews."

Is there a parts list to upgrade the brakes to TT brakes and is it super difficult?
if you have general knowledge of how cars work (brakes specifically) it is easy. Use the search bar (there are plenty of threads on this).
These links will help:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=525719
http://www.97supraturbo.com/1997 Service Manual/Brakes.pdf (page 25+)

Definitely super clean for a salvaged title. great find. How much are you getting it for? if you dont mind me asking.

love the carpet lines btw :bigthumb: but the rubber flaps above the front windshield must come off IMO. Ive always thought they looked a little out-of-place/ awkward.

Just my .02

but good luck with your supra and welcome to the forums!

-Brodie
 
#19 ·
well the previous owner must have put twin turbo rims on the n/a... and the pemier badge just means that it might be one of the first batches of mkiv to be sold... atleast thats what i think... i have the same badging but i have did any research on it...
 
#21 ·
I'm sure this has been beaten to death many times and very few people actually care at all about it but here goes...

The 93.5 MkIV Supra is the first model year of MkIV Supra which makes it the Premier Edition. The only indicator that I'm aware of is the ashtray badge.
If you see a '94 Supra or any other model year with that badge on the ashtray it's not original to the car it's in, just like the Anniversary Edition badge on the '97 model year's ashtray is specific to the '97 model year, although the 97's also got Anniversary Edition fender badging to make their model year even more apparent, which the Premier Edition Supras did not get afaik.

So other than being the first model year of MkIV Supra there's nothing special about the Premier Edition that I'm aware of other than the P.E. ashtray badge...


A '93 and a '93.5 Supra are talking about the same thing since AFAIK there was no actual 93 MkIV Supra ever produced (at least USDM) regardless of what kelley bluebook, auto-trader, and some actual titles say as some states don't seem to acknowledge the 1/2 year models either.
Afaik the first model year of MkIV Supra, at least in the USDM, didn't begin production 'till 1/93 (instead of approximately 08/92) which technically made it a 93.5 model as it was only produced during the second half of the actual "model year" just like the '86 Supra is a MkII Celica-Supra and the totally redesigned (started production in 01/86) 86.5 Supra is a MkIII Supra, two totally different cars often mistaken by the 1/2 year issue as most auto sales and valuation websites, and even many lenders don't acknowledge 1/2 model year increments.

There was also no 93 MkIII Supra overlapping with the Premier Edition MkIV although I've heard rumors that the 92 MkIII was actually produced through 12/92 apparently since there are quite a few higher MkIII VIN's than my 06/92 built MA70 chassis '92 MkIII Turbo Supra's 161988 production number that would've been one of the last few off the assembly line for the model year under normal circumstances.

Toyota plays wierd little model year games like that with the production line from time to time like with quite a few of the later '95 Supras that should've been 96's but still got OBD-I ecu's and OBD-I series VIN numbers even though their production dates went through 12/95 which is a '96 model under normal circumstances. I suspect they pulled that little trick as a means to get around the '96 OBD-II guidelines that had kept them from offerring any actual 96 TT 6-Speed Supras for sale here in the USDM and I'm guessing that's the case since there were some 08/95-12/95 built USDM 6-Speed Supras sold with OBD-I as 95 model Supras when the production date dictates they should've been considered a '96 Supra... Notice the vin series change (JA81/82 vs DD/DE82, NA/TT) that began with the "96 model" Supra and I suspect you'll find the first official 96 Supra was most likely built in 01/96 too, at least USDM anyway, although maybe not...

Anyway... congrats on your Supra purchase!
There's almost no reason you shouldn't be able to get at least another 100k miles out of that N/A engine with proper maintenance, although I'd tend to discourage a GE-T adaptation/conversion since you'll probably be much happier with a built GTE in the end instead... There will be N/A owners who'll disagree but there's an entire thread on GE-T conversion vs GTE drop-in and the most common concensus, especially from many who have done it already, seems to be GTE drop-in instead based on time, cost, level of difficulty, and reliability overall.
Plus as some above have said, it leaves you able to drive the car while doing whatever else you want to do to another engine instead...
 
#25 ·
As in the standard stock grey toyota oval badging I see in his pics vs the "gold package" badging or the occasional chromed versions that some people have?

I believe the "gold package" badging is/was a dealer option but chrome badging on the MkIV is totally aftermarket afaik just like the actually chromed wheels pre 96 were never actually offerred by Toyota, just by dealers.
Just call Jeff at Champion or Curt at Elmhurst and ask what is/was available.

It's times like this when I begin to realize just how much my o.c.d. really sucks...
Comes in handy sometimes on stupid little details with the photographic memory but usually it just sucks. :(
 
#28 ·
i think your missing the big ass black rubberband looking thing that goes on the bracket from the muffler to the bracket of the car... maybe it snapped? or its not on?... cant really tell from the pix but thats usually the case