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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
it depends what you call the factory weight

The "magazine" listed curb weight includes no passengers, but a full tank of gas.

The "gross vehicle weight" on the sticker by your door includes a passenger (175 lbs) for every seat with a seat belt that came with your car. So subtract 175*4 = 700 lbs from the "gvw" to get the curb weight, which as before includes a full tank of gas.
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