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I know a few guys own Skylines on this board... It sounds like you better hide them while you can.

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""This week shit hit the fan in Kaizo, it's getting worse. A reliable source is filtering info down the channels that a certain turd that got caught has been spilling the beans and cooperating with agents, giving them the entire who what when where why of the deal. This goes for not only Kaizo but every other method and car, even the grandfathered Motorex cars are being inspected at RB motoring and all over. Those of you that have shipped in the past, hide it. Those of you thinking or trying to ship, don't. This shit storm is ranging from not only the sources of bringing them in but also various forums. I'd recommend people to not disclose any information regarding their vehicle or themselves, for those who have shipped before. For those who have registered their stuff in the U.S. using the JDM vins... good luck, if you havn't then I wouldn't attempt it at the moment."

"The man who owns the company "Kaizo" is Daryl, this stuff is not like the little he said she said petty shit from previous years and months. Cars at Kaizo have been seized this week as well as inventory computers, RB Motoring was paid a visit as well. Next step will be the DMV's to track the Kaizo VIN's as well as JDM VIN's for cars that didn't go through Motorex or Kaizo which is why I'm hoping to warn people ahead of time.


Put it this way, when Sean Morris starts getting phone calls about it then it's no joke, and this is that time. "

When Sean Morris (aka Tyndago/RBmotoring/Motorex) says,
"I had a call earlier today that ICE , DOT, and CARB had been at RB today doing some investigating. The investigators looked at a couple of the ex-Motorex cars, called the DOT and ended up leaving from RB. I called over to Kaizo to see what was happening over there, and I was informed that they were in the middle of it...Three cars got seized, along with records, and computers. Included in the three cars seized was the actual hero car from Fast and Furious 4. We will have to see how this plays out over the coming weeks and months."


This is the convo we're hearing from this side of the pond...just spreading the word if anybody has something that might have anything to do with this... If anyone doesnt know who Daryll is , he is the one that got the first R35 GTR in the USA from nissan north america. He was importing R34 GTRs and selling them as KAIZO cars. They had 17 digit vin numbers, etc.

Now his contention was they were unibodys so he was basically selling kit cars.

Seems the feds feel otherwise. This might be bad news for anyone with a state titled car per its JDM Vin number. "

And this little tid bit from Sean Morris, of Motorex....

"It is common to think that R33's can be legally imported and converted per Fed standards and driven on the road. It's it is just the R32 & R34's that are the problems; in reality no one can actually do it though. Passenger side airbag was an option in 1995, so the DOT (OVSC) excluded 1995 cars. This made only 1996-1998 R33's eligible. However, since there is no approved OBD II system for R33's, then it makes it impossible to bring it into compliance in accordance with the 3520-1(EPA import document).

Anyone saying they can do it is full of it; All R33's are illegal"
 

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IB Kaizo defenders arrive (you know who you are). There are cars already being picked off, and realistically, every car sold by this company can now be used as evidence in this case, and will most likely be seized or forced to be exported, or ultimately crushed if confiscated. Anyone here thinking these owners are safe better think again, because the charges being brought against the seller are severe, and that will trickle down to all parties involved, including all the people that were supposed to buy just the chassis and install whatever drive train they deemed appropriate. Obviously almost every single last one of these guys stuffed the original motor and tranny back into the car, so they cannot use ignorance as a defense.
I just wanted to know what the heck the seller was thinking when he thought he could 're-manufacture' an already manufactured chassis?????? Even the firewall still has the original chassis number etched to it from Nissan....
 

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It sort of sucks to hear that they are this adamant about tracking these cars down... I have a friend with a beautifully put together R33 here and I haven't heard what hes planning on doing yet. I think renting a private storage unit and waiting it out may be the best bet at this point.
 

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IB Kaizo defenders arrive (you know who you are). There are cars already being picked off, and realistically, every car sold by this company can now be used as evidence in this case, and will most likely be seized or forced to be exported, or ultimately crushed if confiscated. Anyone here thinking these owners are safe better think again, because the charges being brought against the seller are severe, and that will trickle down to all parties involved, including all the people that were supposed to buy just the chassis and install whatever drive train they deemed appropriate. Obviously almost every single last one of these guys stuffed the original motor and tranny back into the car, so they cannot use ignorance as a defense.
I just wanted to what the heck the seller was thinking when he thought he could 're-manufacture' an already manufactured chassis?????? Even the firewall still has the original chassis number assigned to it from Nissan....
excuse the ignorance, but what exactly are the charges?
 

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It sort of sucks to hear that they are this adamant about tracking these cars down... I have a friend with a beautifully put together R33 here and I haven't heard what hes planning on doing yet. I think renting a private storage unit and waiting it out may be the best bet at this point.
he might wanna rent that in someone elses name...
 

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excuse the ignorance, but what exactly are the charges?
In this case, the most likely charges to be brought would be smuggling, deceiving the gov't with or without intent, possibly money laundering, if the money being made was being sent back to run the operation.

You have to understand that he was also selling completed cars with out of state plates. That in itself is a huge blow to him, and from what I have heard, U.S. customs never even approved the cars for the F&F movie to be brought in. Pretty much in a nutshell, an ex-law enforcement officer doing these things is going to destroy his defense.

Hiding your cars or laying low won't save you, since tracking all these VIN's is only a computer click away, they WILL find the cars, or at least the registered owners of them.
 

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In this case, the most likely charges to be brought would be smuggling, deceiving the gov't with or without intent, possibly money laundering, if the money being made was being sent back to run the operation.

You have to understand that he was also selling completed cars with out of state plates. That in itself is a huge blow to him, and from what I have heard, U.S. customs never even approved the cars for the F&F movie to be brought in. Pretty much in a nutshell, an ex-law enforcement officer doing these things is going to destroy his defense.

Hiding your cars or laying low won't save you, since tracking all these VIN's is only a computer click away, they WILL find the cars, or at least the registered owners of them.
Well I wouldn't just hand over the keys to the car. Store it anywhere but your house and they aren't going to find it. I'd let it sit in storage forever before I just handed it over.

This is an huge waste of the tax payers money.
 

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I mean really, do people NEED this car so badly?? In 4 years you can import the R32 100% legally.

Why risk this shit over a car?
 

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I mean really, do people NEED this car so badly?? In 4 years you can import the R32 100% legally.

Why risk this shit over a car?
I know every case is different, but my friend brought his over under the impression it was 100% legal and there would never be any issues. He has some serious money sunk into it so I have no idea what he is going to do.
 

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I know every case is different, but my friend brought his over under the impression it was 100% legal and there would never be any issues. He has some serious money sunk into it so I have no idea what he is going to do.
Yeah but did he buy a grey market car, or motorex car? I mean, your friend should have already understood the difference between a state legal and federalized GT-R. He can try to export it, and maybe they will be more forgiving, but either way, even though the harm here is minimal, the fact is, if a non-approved car crashes and kills someone on the highway, who really is to blame? The answer is the gov't for not taking the appropriate action to keep these cars from being on the road in the first place. I'm sure the departments involved don't have millions of dollars sunken into this investigation, but the time and manpower it takes to go research and recover these cars is their biggest cost.
 

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I mean really, do people NEED this car so badly?? In 4 years you can import the R32 100% legally.

Why risk this shit over a car?
So what is the law after the car is a certain number of years old the car can be imported? If that's the case I would assume there will be a huge boom of skylines once they reach a certain age. It is for sure one of the cars on my must own list.

Yeah but did he buy a grey market car, or motorex car? I mean, your friend should have already understood the difference between a state legal and federalized GT-R. He can try to export it, and maybe they will be more forgiving, but either way, even though the harm here is minimal, the fact is, if a non-approved car crashes and kills someone on the highway, who really is to blame? The answer is the gov't for not taking the appropriate action to keep these cars from being on the road in the first place. I'm sure the departments involved don't have millions of dollars sunken into this investigation, but the time and manpower it takes to go research and recover these cars is their biggest cost.
It's the drivers fault...... how is it the government or anyone elses fault. If you are going to use that logic then why not say it's nissans fault for making the car able to go that fast or the gas station that let him fill up so he could drive the car to kill the people.
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I think you are mis-understanding my point about blaming the gov't. It is their job to ensure the safety of the public highways we ride on. Powerful cars can be put on the roads anytime, so long as they are deemed 'street legal'. Since none of these cars are technically 'street legal', this can lead to major lawsuits against the gov't, as well as the importers and drivers of these cars. It comes down to the basic point that if the car is not road legal, it has no business on the street. The laws are in place for a reason.
 
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