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Over on another board, we were discussing this cherry 1st-gen Camaro for sale on our favorite auction site, with a 2JZ. (link here) Being a General Motors board, of course a lot of hate got thrown out at the powerplant, as you might imagine.
One of the main arguments coming out of the thread is how this engine is a "grenade" and liable to self-destruct at any moment. Some example posts from the one user:

Another gem:
One of the main arguments coming out of the thread is how this engine is a "grenade" and liable to self-destruct at any moment. Some example posts from the one user:
Love the hp/liter argument there.I know; the laws of physics are suspended when the engine is made by Toyota but all these kinds of engines are is a lot of talk and a really short life.
This engine has more horsepower per liter than the engine in a Formula 1 car. The longest a Formula 1 engine is run before it is rebuilt is 700km. Granted, this engine isn't operating at full output 100% of the time but it's maximum useful life is probably less than 10,000 miles. An engine with this kind of power output produces 100,000 BTU/minute and the exhaust and cooling systems have to be able to deal with that. The engine was never designed to reject that kind of heat so operating at maximum output the engine is literally unable to get rid of the heat - the castings are too thick and the cooling system volume and flow (Designed for a passenger car) are in a continuous state of being overtaxed. It's a neat curiosity and that's about it.
Another gem:
So what I'd like to hear from you guys is practical experience in the form of, "Hey, I drive a 500+ rwhp Supra, here's the setup, and here's how long I've been driving it." Since apparently you guys are all riding on ticking timebombs, let's hear about it. :facesjumpA grenade is still a grenade. I've made 500+ Horsepower from a junkyard Oldsmobile 455 that had 150,000 miles on it by sticking a nitrous system on it. The engine already had over 400 horsepower so a simple plate system tuned to the lowest setting is enough to get 500 horsepower. Big deal. It's still a bomb and it's burning at both ends. I gave you all the valid reasons for why these engines are so short-lived (and you know they are) and you still deny that the laws of physics and thermodynamics exist.