I made it my business to drive 75 miles to a shop in Sterling, VA to hear what the big deal was with the Focals... I heard the 165 K's which had a nice mid bass hit but something was missing. For the life of me I was not overly impressed. I listened, listened, and listened to them somemore to see what was so special about them. I was slightly dissapointed because after reading all the comments about 'em I was ready to buy. But I couldn't. Then I made my way to another shop (Myer Emco) and listened to my all time favorite components (Boston Pros) and fell in love again. I've owned 5 sets of these and believe me the Boston's are top notch. Neither of the shops had big power running to the speakers so I know it wasn't "Real world testing", nor were they mounted in a car. I haven't purchased either yet but on Friday I will. I'm going to review both again but I could swear that the Boston's have the edge. Comments?