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I'm going be looking at some different Supra's in the near future. Here is the deal, I'm interested in the turbo trim, preferable a manual, however, there seems to be some deals on auto's out there. One of the reason I have an interest is because I will be treating this as some sort of an investment. I'd anticipate these vehicles to go up in value over the next 5 to 10 years more then they already are.

With that being said, I'm going to be looking at a 94 Supra that was original an auto tt but was converted over to a 6 speed signal turbo. The vehicle has 150ish thousand miles on it and the asking price is 28k. I'd prefer less miles and a factory 6 speed, however, for the price, it doesn't hurt to look.

What are your guys input? Thoughts? What should I keep my eye out for? I appreciate any feedback!
 

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car != investment. Not even when car == Supra.
 

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1. A supra isnt an investment unless you plan to never drive it(pointless)
2. The supra crowd IMO is starting to be filled with a bunch of wannabes, get yourself a porsche...thats what Im upgrading to in the nxt year or so.
3. Buy a car to enjoy it, not store it like a bitch
 

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If you purchase said car, it's highly unlikely one with that many miles is going to turn out to be an investment. Especially when considering registering/insuring/maintenance costs as well. Buy the supra to enjoy it. If you sell it in the future and it does increase in value, then count your blessings.
 

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A car with 150k miles is not an investment, especially for a 20 year old Toyota.

If you want investment, contribute to your 401k/RothIRA. if you must buy a supra, that would fetch 100k+ in the next 20 years, you need a mint condition low miles unmolested car, preferably 6speed.
 

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you guys are to the point! im really not looking at this particular example as a long term investment. let's put the "investment" aside. That can be my own stupidity. What do you guys think I need to look out for with a single turbo supra? what are some red flags? I'm going go try and look at it today.
 

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you guys are to the point! im really not looking at this particular example as a long term investment. let's put the "investment" aside. That can be my own stupidity. What do you guys think I need to look out for with a single turbo supra? what are some red flags? I'm going go try and look at it today.
For that particular car, I would verify that it is indeed V160 gearbox, that it has proper rear differential(LSD or TRD), who did conversion, what kind of ECU its running.

With 150k miles, verify if valve stems were replaced, also when was the last time car had its 60k service. (water pump, belts, plugs, gaskets).

If its a modified car like that single, find a local shop that specialists in import turbos and pay them to check the car, you will definitely be happier in the long run.
 

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For that particular car, I would verify that it is indeed V160 gearbox, that it has proper rear differential(LSD or TRD), who did conversion, what kind of ECU its running.

With 150k miles, verify if valve stems were replaced, also when was the last time car had its 60k service. (water pump, belts, plugs, gaskets).

If its a modified car like that single, find a local shop that specialists in import turbos and pay them to check the car, you will definitely be happier in the long run.
The car has a 5 speed out of a mk3 supra turbo. It as a aftermarket ecu which is why the seller said the traction control is off and why the oil light is one. I believe it was the oil pressure light. Which seems to make sense. The motor appears to be strong and the car is fast. The car will need a full paint job at some point. My only real concern currently speaking with the body is the rear quarter panel needs to be replaced or repaired. The paint in that are4a is bubbling which is indicating rust. I'll be in contact with my body guy tomorrow for his input. The interior will need some tlc, however, the vehicle appears to be in overall decent shape when you consider its age and price point. The vehicle is just below 30k. LMK your thoughts.
 

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you guys are to the point! im really not looking at this particular example as a long term investment. let's put the "investment" aside. That can be my own stupidity. What do you guys think I need to look out for with a single turbo supra? what are some red flags? I'm going go try and look at it today.
Do a lot of reading here.

I'm already subscribed :) thank you for sharing though!
I think Ken was right on - and perhaps a gentle reminder he is a moderator here and extremely knowledgeable.

For that particular car, I would verify that it is indeed V160 gearbox, that it has proper rear differential(LSD or TRD), who did conversion, what kind of ECU its running.

With 150k miles, verify if valve stems were replaced, also when was the last time car had its 60k service. (water pump, belts, plugs, gaskets).

If its a modified car like that single, find a local shop that specialists in import turbos and pay them to check the car, you will definitely be happier in the long run.
This is excellent advice - especially that last part. We have seen numerous posts like yours that led to someone buying a disaster money pit.

The car has a 5 speed out of a mk3 supra turbo. It as a aftermarket ecu which is why the seller said the traction control is off and why the oil light is one. I believe it was the oil pressure light. Which seems to make sense. The motor appears to be strong and the car is fast. The car will need a full paint job at some point. My only real concern currently speaking with the body is the rear quarter panel needs to be replaced or repaired. The paint in that are4a is bubbling which is indicating rust. I'll be in contact with my body guy tomorrow for his input. The interior will need some tlc, however, the vehicle appears to be in overall decent shape when you consider its age and price point. The vehicle is just below 30k. LMK your thoughts.
I would not worry about the body as much as the frame, drivetrain, and engine. The above description means you really need to get someone knowledgeable to inspect the car.
 

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The car has a 5 speed out of a mk3 supra turbo. It as a aftermarket ecu which is why the seller said the traction control is off and why the oil light is one. I believe it was the oil pressure light. Which seems to make sense. The motor appears to be strong and the car is fast. The car will need a full paint job at some point. My only real concern currently speaking with the body is the rear quarter panel needs to be replaced or repaired. The paint in that are4a is bubbling which is indicating rust. I'll be in contact with my body guy tomorrow for his input. The interior will need some tlc, however, the vehicle appears to be in overall decent shape when you consider its age and price point. The vehicle is just below 30k. LMK your thoughts.
I am already lost at the current market value price-line, what do clean original 6 speeds with 150k miles currently go for?

IMO, I would pass on this car, you really want to shell out 30k for a car that needs so much work? Hatch rust is normal on ALL Supra's, and pain in the ass to get rid of, glass has to come off, rust has to be cut out, you are looking at $800 plus for that alone. A proper paint job is few grand, interior redo can get really expensive, I bet when its all done you are looking at R35 GTR price range.
 

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Thank you for all the help guys! I end up pulling the trigger! The car drove all the 2 hour drive home with out a hiccup! Can't wait to dig into this car!
 

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Nice looking car man! I'm not far away down in DE, let me know if you need a hand.

What are the specs on the car?
 

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Nice looking car man! I'm not far away down in DE, let me know if you need a hand.

What are the specs on the car?
Thanks man! I'll be on this forum a lot now! Its was an original 94 auto tt converted to a signal turbo (71mm) with the r154 5-speed from the mk3 turbo. Its apparently setup for E85 as well. I don't plan on messing with that for a while, if at all! The body is in good shop and the paint is what you expect with 155k miles. I already wash, clayed and wax the car. Buffing it should really make it a decent looking car! The interior is where I plan on focusing first! I want to get some new leather skin & get the overall interior in better shape!

I love sitting in the car, its like being in a cockpit (which I'm sure is over said at this point). I know every set up is different, but this car does take forever to go into full boost, although I'm not sure were you guys shift at. The car isn't building much boost till 4500rpm and then the tech flys once I hit 5000rpm at full boost, however, I'm shifting at factory redline right before 7k.

I have a small group of car friends that get together to go out and cruise and do things. It would be awesome to have another Supra join us one day. We have many different cars from Evo X's, C5z, cammed out Fox, my Scat Pack Charger & now my Supra to name a few. Last time we were out, some random guy with a very nice 93 RX7 stop by, which was cool, the owner was chill. PM here for more info you wana tag along. You can also get in touch with me on instagram @ _johnnygt or youtube by typing in johnnygt.
 

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Thank you for all the help guys! I end up pulling the trigger! The car drove all the 2 hour drive home with out a hiccup! Can't wait to dig into this car!
The Supra is stunning bro congrats! I've got a white MKIV that I picked up a few months ago as well. If you want to switch out the wheels, I've been looking for a set of TE37's, please keep me in mind and PM if you ever decide to sell the wheels. Have fun with the beast
 

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What ECU is in the car? Sounds like it's an R154 trans which is a very common swap.

What part of NJ are you guys in? I know of a few Supras in the area.
 

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...Its was an original 94 auto tt converted to a signal turbo (71mm) with the r154 5-speed from the mk3 turbo. .... but this car does take forever to go into full boost, although I'm not sure were you guys shift at. The car isn't building much boost till 4500rpm and then the tech flys once I hit 5000rpm at full boost, however, I'm shifting at factory redline right before 7k. ...
Yeah, an older turbo, especially a larger one will have turbo lag - often more than you are seeing. I replaced my small single with a new small single, and it spools much faster. Technology is much better now.
 

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The Supra is stunning bro congrats! I've got a white MKIV that I picked up a few months ago as well. If you want to switch out the wheels, I've been looking for a set of TE37's, please keep me in mind and PM if you ever decide to sell the wheels. Have fun with the beast
Thank you! I don't see me switching out these wheels, I LOVE them! I think they make the car!

What ECU is in the car? Sounds like it's an R154 trans which is a very common swap.

What part of NJ are you guys in? I know of a few Supras in the area.
He told me the ECU but I already forget. I need to have him text me the modd list. I know its not a crazy ecu setup since all the lights are on (traction control light, etc). I live right outside of Cherry Hill. I just saw a red Supra the other day, however, they're very rare here. There is a black one in Haddonfield that I see parked on the top of a driveway. Hopefully I get to meet some local Supra owners!

Yeah, an older turbo, especially a larger one will have turbo lag - often more than you are seeing. I replaced my small single with a new small single, and it spools much faster. Technology is much better now.
You're probably right. But I don't see me spending the money on a new turbo right now. Plus I'm not sure where to shift at. I dont want to break anything!
 
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