MAX AIR BOX vs. FILTER INTAKES?

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scottie

Discussion Starter · Jan 4, 2002

Does the "AIR BOX" actually gain horsepower more than the filter element intakes like HKS Super Mega Flow or the Blitz intakes? It seems like a good idea but wanted some people with experience with them to tell me if they are truely better.

ALSO, there are two different boxes. The MVP motorsports and Suprastore have different kind of box style imtakes. The one on Suprastore is entirely closed and polished while the MVP motorsports one is open on top. Both same price but which is better?
Thanks for all the help fellas!

Also what is a good price on a new Greddy BCC?

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yasir

· #2 · Jan 4, 2002 (Edited)

scottie said:
Does the "AIR BOX" actually gain horsepower more than the filter element intakes like HKS Super Mega Flow or the Blitz intakes? It seems like a good idea but wanted some people with experience with them to tell me if they are truely better.

ALSO, there are two different boxes. The MVP motorsports and Suprastore have different kind of box style imtakes. The one on Suprastore is entirely closed and polished while the MVP motorsports one is open on top. Both same price but which is better?
Thanks for all the help fellas!

Also what is a good price on a new Greddy BCC?

The main idea behind an air intake is to suck in the cold air which is densor and hence more power

Technically speaking if you have an aluminum polished/unpolished air intake pipe in the engine bay,then it would get hot and would defeat the purpose of colder air and also the filter if not enclosed,would suckin hot air from the engine bay as well

As far as Max Air Box VS suprastore air box is concerned,they should both serve the same purpose.BTW the Max box though is opened on top but when you shut the hood down it makes an air tight seal plus it seems to draw air from more places then the other box.I personally like the open air box as it looks more tackier

and also if you stick your hand in the air box after a drive there's a noticeable temp difference as compared to the engine bay.
Yasir

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Steve Jarvis

· #3 · Jan 4, 2002

scottie,

One main advantage to the "MAX AIR" airbox is it uses a thermal wrap around the outside of the airbox. In my test the thermal wrap was as effective as the airbox itself. If you haven't already you can see some information at

www.geocities.com/steve_jarvis_me/Airbox1

You will need to cut and paste the link for it to work. You will also need to minimize the free advertising to see the buttons that will allow you to page through the presentation. On page 3 you will see that the max. intake temps (at the filter) went from 122 degrees to 110 degrees. When the thermal wrap was added those temps came down to about 98 degrees. Basically the airboxes without the thermal wrap will only give you about half the gain of a "MAX AIR", because they will only reduce the temps by about half as much.

You will also note that the "MAX AIR" uses the large air intake that comes into the side of the airbox. None of the other airboxes continue using this good source of air. This adds more cost, but I thought it was worth it to do it right.

The interesting thing is the other airboxes don't have the thermal wrap or side intake duct and they cost almost as much.

I used wheather-stripping to seal the top of the airbox for a several reasons.
1. You can remove the filter and clean it without having to remove the airbox lid.
2. You can remove the headlight at the dragstrip without having to remove the airbox or lid.
3. The under hood insulation does a much better job of blocking heat than a thin layer of aluminum.
4. When you open the hood it's nice for people to be able to see your intake and not just an aluminum box.

Finally be aware that some of the other intakes are nothing more than a lid with sides. The sides don't actually seal against the chassis of the car. This defeats the purpose of the box all together.

Hope this helps, Steve

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scottie

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 4, 2002

Thanks guys. I wont need a VPC or the AEM ECU for the intake to work properly do I? Thanks again!

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David S

· #5 · Jan 5, 2002

I got the max air box and it is a great product. The only thing is the K&N cone filter doesn't sit flush on the extension. I have to angle it up because it rubs on the lower air duct. I agree that cooler air is more important than a ram air and you can definitely feel it. I use to lose power after a couple of hard runs but since the intake air is a bit cooler, I don't see the power drop off as dramatic. Now you can hear more than a whistle from your turbo with the stock box. The sound of the turbos are awesome especially when you accelerate gently.

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JS4KIKZ

· #6 · Jan 5, 2002

intake manifold

Does the hard piping that replaces the stock rubber piping replace the hose coming off of the intake manifold all the way down?

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Steve Jarvis

· #7 · Jan 5, 2002

scottie,

Everything you need is included in the kit. You won't need any of the things you listed.

David S,

Rotating the rubber hose going from the MAF to the turbos will help this. You can also just remove the duct. The filter will get the same amount of air without that duct. You do want to keep the stock duct that comes in the side of the airbox though. To remove the lower duct, just take out the headlight and remove the duct. There are only 3 nuts holding the headlight in and 2 bolts on the duct (I believe).

JS4KIKZ,

No. The "MAX AIR" with the K&N replaces everything from the MAF forward.

Later, Steve

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David S

· #8 · Jan 5, 2002

I didn't think about taking off the duct. Duh!

Thanks and a nice product indeed.

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