As PX4Ports said, my sincerest condolences for your loss. These are always the toughest new member/introduction threads to read in forums.
Valuations on heavily modified cars can get a bit tough and/or the pool of potential buyers will be much smaller.
A lot of the high value MK3 Supras I’ve seen are usually lower mileage, factory examples with even “OEM+” 1JZ/2JZ examples always selling below the project cost (with original car price) itself.
Since the car is not in a sustainable running condition, this car will narrow the potential buyers to mechanically inclined and committed project triage types (inheriting a non-running car gets dicey unfortunately). Any additional engine related problems (leaking, compression, etc.) would be moot at this point, but other potential issues (rear diff, axles, hubs, bushings, suspension, etc.) may also play a factor. If your son went through with a full engine swap, I’d assume he has modified the suspension and related components. Any details here will help as well.
From my understanding of this swap on pre-facelift MK3s, some modification (slight hammering) to the firewall is required to have adequate clearance for the 1UZ. I think other items need to be rerouted, swapped for different model equivalents (I.e. brake booster, abs, etc.), bent, or refabricated to allow proper fitment of the engine and peripheral engine components. Hopefully someone can confirm this for me, but if confirmed, irreversible/body compromising modifications is a crapshoot for buyer interest. If the buyer desires a 1UZ swapped MK3 (very likely given the work done), these points shouldn’t detract anything if work was done properly.
The roof clear coat issue (depending on severity), may have an impact as well. Given the age of the car and being a non-museum piece, some clear coat issues should be almost expected. If those TRD livery stripes are just decals (likely), I don’t see that hurting the buyer pool or pricing. It can be simply removed if the buyer so pleases.
The car being a desert car is great for preventing rust, but has the downside of potentially drying out rubber/plastic seals and weatherstripping. Rust being the larger of the two problems, definitely a big value add for your son’s car to prospective buyers wanting a great blank canvas. Aside from damage, rust is my main filtering factor for buying cars for long term ownership.
Damage excluded, anybody who has an issue with exterior wear and tear (dings/paint less dent removal types, clear coat scratches, rock chips, etc.) from normal driving is likely rationalizing a lowball.
From my understanding, a lot of the interior pieces in the MK3 are discontinued and getting harder to find in good condition, so condition/modification of interior plays a measurable factor to value. And like any car, interior color will play into buyer interest. Based on the pictures above, that interior looks solid. If I’m not mistaken, those seats look to be redone by interior innovations. Black/grey is a conservative color for buyer interest, and looks to be well preserved/cared for. I’m not an expert of this platform (even the one I own), but this interior and dash look to be reasonably factory (except the shifter and wheel). Like the exterior, the interior on your son’s car will likely help the value.
A no rust, clean interior MK3 should be very desirable. With the engine in its current condition, it becomes a really nice “complete rolling chassis” or minus motor chassis. This would be perfect for someone who wants to just swap in a used 1UZ (I think they’re still affordable), or someone who wanted to build a 1UZ for forced induction and needed to upgrade internals anyways. Based on what I’ve seen in the marketplace recently(the realistic ads), rough shape mk3 projects go for 2-6k, acceptable driver grade mk3s go for 12k+, Oem+ examples fetch 15k+, so I’d guess (get more than my opinion), it’s somewhere in the 6-9k range, maybe 10k for the perfect buyer as-is. If it was running, I’d say closer to 13-15k. If my estimate is well off other opinions, I’ll will gladly modify my numbers here. This is my best guess to be as unbiased and accurate as possible.
If I didn’t have 1 minor project car (maintenance and refresh), 1 major project car (rolling chassis) waiting for work, and contemplating fully building my Supra (project 3), I would personally love to buy this. I simply just don’t have the space (indoors) for it. This car deserves a good home; too bad you can’t keep it. I may talk with some friends to brainstorm…
MODS: Anyway to bypass the 30day/30post for this guy, assuming he can verify ownership/non-scammer stuff?
Stan J, once again, I’m terribly sorry to hear about your loss. Best of luck with the sale.
Back when I was looking for a Mk3, I used this thread as reference in the 1UZ/3UZ swap. He mentions firewall pushing and some rerouting, but maybe there’s alternative approaches the avoid his problems. Visual confirmation would be best here, but again, I’d assume the buyer of this car would likely keep the 1UZ setup, which would make this not a big deal in my opinion if work was done well.Check out my reply to OMICA. I covered some of the issues you brought up in my reply to him. More pics to come. He has about the same take on the value of the car.