Around here 2003s are easy to find in the mid-$20K range, so that's what you'd have to contend with if you were trying to re-sell. You can buy a new 2006 for $38,xxx. There are always the stealerships (like your Foad dealer) trolling for suckers, but the '03 and '04 35s and 45s are available for pretty heavily depreciated prices.STAGED said:I was also pleased to see a few months go an 18" rimmed 2003 FX35 for $34,997 "as advertised" at a Ford dealer used lot. The 18" rimmed FX35 is strong indication that it is not a decked out FX35. This in turn means the $34,997 after 2+ years is selling for almost as much as it was new. Talk about great resale value.
Red circles on paper mean nothing to me. I've driven them both and I will tell you that from what I have experienced the toyota product is superior. If you want a quick, well handling suv and must have an infiniti then the fx35 is the way to go. If you want to be pampered and have peace of mind in that the vehicle youre driving will last 200K miles with no issues I believe the lexus is the way to go. Not to mention its bush button auto rear opening/closing hatch is nice and it has a much larger cargo area, among other nice features. It may not handle as well as the fx but trying to get one of those rx300/330's side ways or unsettled is very difficult . And if youre dumb enough to pay 34K for an 03 fx35 then you deserve to be ripped off. You can easily find those vehicles for much cheaper than that so I doubt its a resale value thing and more of a, "lets price this at 34K and bend over some poor fool". As a matter of fact, a quick search shows one 03 fx35 with 35K miles going for 32K. All others, even ones with the same (and less!) mileage, are going for 27-29K so those guys asking 32-34K are out of their mind.The FX35 actually has better reliabilty scores than a Lexus RX. April 2006 Consumer Reports gave the FX35 a red circle top reliability ranking vs. a semi-red circle ranking for the Lexus RX.
I'm with you on that.GSXXXguy said:Red circles on paper mean nothing to me.
STAGED said:Some neat features on the FX35 (lots of good hardware)
Now the RX probably has its own set of unique features appealing to safety conscious people or audiophiles (M. Levinson).
But I think Infiniti FX features are neat for those looking for a sporty SUV
1.) 105,000 mile tune-up interval is benchmark with Cadillac
2.) Forged multi-link aluminum rear suspension control arm layout (Lexus is more mundane)
3.) Special clear-coat technology makes it more resistant to scratches
4.) ATTESA ET-S (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All Electronic Torque Split) off the race proven Skyline GT-Rstarts 50/50 AWD from stop, then switches to RWD if no slip is detected. System is a variable torque split to aid in dry weather performance handling too. I believe th RX AWD is full-time.
5.) Vented 12.1" rear discs (vs. solid 11.3" rear discs for RX330, don't know about RX350)
6.) Near 50/50 weight distribution!!! The engine is packed way back near the firewall snugly!
7.) Continuosly variable valve timing (vs. not continuous for RX330, don't know about newer RX350)
8.) 0-60mph: 7.3 sec (RWD FX35) vs. 8.5 (FWD RX330, RX350 is faster), from MT 9/2003
9.) 200' skidpad: 0.79g for FX35 vs. 0.68 for RX330 MT 9/2003
10.) Fuel tank capacity: 23.8 gallons for FX vs. 19.2 gallons for RX (547 vs. 499 highway miles per tank)
11.) 4 yr/60k mi basic warranty vs. 4/50 for RX
12.) 4 yr/60k mi roadside vs. 4/50 for RX
13.) One of the very few manufacturers to offer high beam HIDs with cockpit adjustable low beam angle on top of self-leveling features.
14.) Timing chain (quiet rubber coated) for maintenance free operation vs. some rival's timing belts
15.) Hydraulic (liquid) drive cooling fan for quiet operation in low speeds as with some Toyotas too
16.) Ripple control suspension dampers (shocks) to improve ride comfort in high frequency bump surfaces
17.) Microfinished cams/crank journals and coated piston skirts: lower friction. Also coated piston skirts allow a tighter bore clearance spec for less cold start slap and emissions.
18.) Infiniti Torque Demand (ITD): When the FX goes up a hill, the FX will sense the grade and add more throttle angle to maintain the speed so the driver does not have to press harder on the gas pedal. This has nothing to do with the cruise control.
19.) Fail safe transmission: If the transmission is at very high temperature or excessively low fluid level, the tranmission will lock in 3rd gear!!! This will prevent gearshifts that will instantly destroy the transmission.
20.) Front frame structure is composite to reduce weight and improve weight distribution
21.) Weld bonding: This FX uses very few welds, and in fact uses space age adhesives for the ultimate in rigidity and lightweight
22.) Advanced HIDs: Not only is the HID manually adjustable (rare), not only does it have high beam HIDs (rare), it can be serviced by just bulb removal, not the entire HID unit!!! This reduces service costs.
23.) Not only is the glass tinted at certain parts, but the glass has UV-filter to make a large impact in comfort and loading on the A/C.
24.) Sunroof and windows have a pinch sensor
25.) Windows are not just automatic down on driver-side. It offers automatic quick-touch down AND up on BOTH driver and passenger side
26.) Seat cushion is made from an inert gas vs. CFC ozone killers for environmental friendliness. The cushions are also recyclable.
27.) Remote control latch can pop rear seats down flat
28.) Speed sensitive intermittent wipers and radio volume!!!
The RX400-h is probably tops for the bulk of people can afford such an SUV, but the FX35 is cool in its own right and can separate itself from the hoards of family cross-overs (Mazda CX-7, Tribeca, Murano, new Ford cross-overs, Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia, new MDX, even the Highlander, etc.) better than the RX350 can.
The RX hybrid is a very good idea, and i would buy one too, but i heard the sales are very slow and i dont know why? It would be a better buy than any other hybrid suv due to the fact , that the GM hybrids are using 1st generation hybrid technology that was equivalent to the 1st gen prius. Im wondering if that is true or not.davidX said:RX400h no second thoughts.
LOL Go pull 2 plug wires off your Supra, take it for a drive, then come back and tell me how the 4-cylinder mode isn't sub-par to the 6-cylinder. Plus, the 35 has that annoying V6 exhaust note that is border-line too loud in a slow vehicle like the FX (slow compared to things that are modestly quick and performance oriented, not compared to the average SUV).boostinsixtt said:How do you figure the fx35 is subpar to the 45?
Make that, Uselessly stiff to the point that the vehicle rides rougher than there's any use of yet doesn't really handle any better or do anything else any better. Well, if one were actually pushing this heavy pig hard on a track or something, he might see a quarter second difference in lap times, but who would buy one of these vehicles for that sort of use?The "complaints" of the suspension your talking about is called stiff suspension.
Yeah, Infiniti quickly decided that they'd been a bit dumb in thinking that a heavy SUV is a performance car that should have suspension too far in the direction of a Z-06. The '04 isn't soft by any means. It just has the needless teeth-rattling edge knocked off.Well i guess thats what happens when you ask for the "suspension package" Some poeple are so dumb these days.
I definitely agree that they are better handling than any other SUV I've driven (I've driven the Cadillac but not the Porsche, and when you move to the truck-based SUVs there's no comparison). That, and the feel of the interior was the thing that made me interested in getting one. Well, not "handling" per se, partly because we don't have curves here in Florida, but more accurately it's the overall feel of the drive coupled with the GT-like cabin atmosphere. I was all set to get one, then went back for a confirming test drive and came away feeling like the car was really nice and in a completely different category than an SUV (and I generally don't like SUVs), but somehow it felt like it didn't really have control over those monster size (and I'm sure very heavy) wheels and tires. I don't know how exactly to explain it, but I came away thinking that it is definitely in the direction of a GT car relative to truck-based SUVs, but I'm somehow not feeling it completely because it's not all the way there. Good effort, though. Maybe the 20" wheels are just too big and heavy to be kept under control by the rest of the suspension on a vehicle the weight of the FX -- I don't know. I just know that it's missing somehing in my book. Does it handle far better than the GX470 that I ended up buying, or any other truck-based SUV? Hell YES. But does it make me think, This is a fukkin GT car? No. I still like the 45 a lot, but I decided to get the GX because it's a truck-based SUV without any personality conflicts, and for miscellaneous other reasons, not the least of which is interior room and my expectation of resale value. The FX is still a very interesting vehicle in my book though, and I can certainly see why someone would want one.I have a 35 with all the tech stuff in it, and i can say its one of the best handling crossovers i have driven.