[vCo2v]

I got an 89 mk3. The 7mgte in it had a bhg, and the previous guy who had it took it apart. I'm sure there's some rust in it. I thought about getting a new jdm 7mgte but they're about $1000. I was also quoted for a 1jzgte with wiring harness, ecu, and tranny for $1300. I know that might be more costly since there's more that's required to do the swap since its most likely from a soarer.

What would be the most cost effective route for me to go. Rebuild my 7mgte? Buy a new JDM 7mgte to swap in? Or, do the 1jzgte swap.

Don't know how much to rebuild my engine to good stock form. 1000$ to put in a jdm 7mgte, and $1300 for the tranny/ecu/wiring combo 1jzgte.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm getting fairly impatient and want this car to start running =(

 

[kwnate]

Hi, I would like to recommend the 1jz to you over the 7m. 1jz swaps are pretty common for people in Washington so there are many people that could help you. 7m's typically need help from God to survive, or from people who consider themselves to be gods. What is your Budget??

 

[OneJSupra]

Hi, I would like to recommend the 1jz to you over the 7m. 1jz swaps are pretty common for people in Washington so there are many people that could help you. 7m's typically need help from God to survive, or from people who consider themselves to be gods. What is your Budget??

+1

:rofl:

 

[vCo2v]

Hi, I would like to recommend the 1jz to you over the 7m. 1jz swaps are pretty common for people in Washington so there are many people that could help you. 7m's typically need help from God to survive, or from people who consider themselves to be gods. What is your Budget??

LOL!!
I'm trying to find my budget to be honest. If I could rebuild my current 7mgte for less than $1000. I would go that route if not. I might opt to do the 1jz swap. I'm hoping it doesn't exceed $1500

 

[CheesePhantom]

Here we go again. XD

 

[vCo2v]

don't worry this isn't a 1jz vs 7m discussion I'm trying to spark.
Its a matter of what's the most cost effective thing to do as we speak.
rebuild my current 7m? or 1jz swap.

Plus is $1300 a good price for 1jz/tranny/ecu/wiring harness?
I would like to know how much it would cost to do the complete swap. It comes with an auto tranny I've read somewhere that the soarer auto bellhousing would have to be switched. How much would that be? Some modification to the wiring harness I know I'll have to do. And I believe I'd be able to use my current mounts because mines an 89.

 

[Slow_Sc3]

3s swap or ls1 swap those are your only options!!!!!

 

[CheesePhantom]

Was your car originally Turbo or Non Turbo? Whatever tranny you plan on using, you'd need a new bellhousing from Driftmotion to mount it to the 1JZ.
Assuming you have an R154, this is what you'd need:
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-1jz2jzr154bellhousing.php

 

[vCo2v]

3s swap or ls1 swap those are your only options!!!!!

why wouldn't a soarer swap be any good?

 

[Bryanf89]

I want to do a 1jz swap as well. I want the vvti version because the efficient head design, but i heard they were harder to tune. I want something that gives 400 reliable horses and good on gas. Most would say to go na for fuel efficiency, but once you got a turbo, its hard to go back to naturally aspirated engines.

 

[vCo2v]

After reading the 1jz/2jz swap thread. I'm thinking its much more work and costly to do the swap.
Now I'm at the choice of:
1. rebuilding my 7mgte to stock, or
2. buying a jdm 7mgte to put in (roughly $1000-$1400)

which of the two would you guys think is better?

 

[kwnate]

For your budget I would buy a JDM 7m, Replace the Headgasket while it's out of the car. Replace all the hoses and Slap her in. Stay with stock parts except for the headgasket and arp fasteners. Wouldn't hurt to pull the pan and inspect the bottom end and replace the oil pump.

For your budget I wouldn't recommend the 1jz, you'd need at least another 1,000 in your budget ($2,500 total) and thats a real barebones "cheap" swap.

 

[vCo2v]

For your budget I would buy a JDM 7m, Replace the Headgasket while it's out of the car. Replace all the hoses and Slap her in. Stay with stock parts except for the headgasket and arp fasteners. Wouldn't hurt to pull the pan and inspect the bottom end and replace the oil pump.

For your budget I wouldn't recommend the 1jz, you'd need at least another 1,000 in your budget ($2,500 total) and thats a real barebones "cheap" swap.

Thanks for that. I'm probably going to go that route.
But would it not be cost effective to attempt to rebuild my 7mgte that is currently in the car.
The turbo/intake & exhaust manifolds are off and auto tranny are off in my garage.

Would restoring the engine be not as cost effective as buying a jdm motor?

 

[Driver005S]

I have the same dilemma whether to rebuilt my jdm 7m with bad rings or do a 1jz or 2jzge

 

[hachibill]

why down grade to a 2.5l. keep the 7m and make the tq the 1j wishes it could make. just do the oiling system up right when u rebuild the 7m and you'll be fine.

 

[Driver005S]

I think that would be a way to go but from what I hear about the 7m makes me don't want to even bother
Like what nate said

7m's typically need help from God to survive,

 

[Satan]

1JZ has more torque, better pistons, more nutswingers, is JDM, and threads with more pages/posts. Cost per thread/post = 1JZ win.

Stupid 7M vs. Anything threads by 2011s = more stupidity when you've already read all the noise. Seriously... you already had all the answers before starting another stupid thread. C'mon now.

 

[LEVIrolla]

Save more money, swap 2jz, call it a day. Thats my plan atleast

 

[CheesePhantom]

Thanks for that. I'm probably going to go that route.
But would it not be cost effective to attempt to rebuild my 7mgte that is currently in the car.
The turbo/intake & exhaust manifolds are off and auto tranny are off in my garage.

Would restoring the engine be not as cost effective as buying a jdm motor?

If I were you I would rebuild the 7M you already have. You never know how long a JDM motor will last, and if you ALREADY have the SAME motor in your possession, you could rebuild it with a fresh headgasket and ARP studs for the price that it would cost to JUST buy the JDM 7m.
Just make sure to inspect it thoroughly. You never know what you're going to need until you take a look at it. Take the head off, and look at the block. If the block isn't warped, and the internals are all fine (replace the oil pump no matter what, since you're down there anyway), then just stick a brand new OEM headgasket in with ARP studs. Do NOT install a metal headgasket unless you take the block apart and have the block and head resurfaced. The OEM headgasket has multiple layers with some material designed to fill in all the gaps and bumps in an imperfectly straight head. If you just stick a metal headgasket on there with no machine work, you WILL leak, and blow another headgasket.

If you're going to rebuild completely from the ground up, then go ahead and have all your machine work done. The whole nine yards, and use a metal Headgasket.

In the end, a fresh rebuilt 7M done right will be more reliable than a used 1JZ or 7M from Japan.

 

[Ryeno]

If you want to get the car running RIGHT NOW than rebuilding your 7M or buying a JDM 7M is a good idea because you don't have the budget for a 1JZ swap. In the long run tho you'll probably regret spending any money on the 7M tho. I'd wait and do a 1JZ swap when you can offer it.