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project tightarse respray, updated on last page

Well I decided to do a respray, my stock front bar wasnt in the best shape and the quarter had a slight dent in it which i got out ( still has a tiny ripple but saved me a LOT of money) and in the process of pushing it out the paint cracked off, and being a 13 yr old car the paint had a lot of stone chips and what not, plus i dont like silver, so respray it was.

Now I dont have a lot of money, and it was going to be closed door, so I needed something that doesnt clash with silver, I had a mate that was going to paint it for me but hes never done a full car (does a lot of airbrushing and his works good so i trusted him) but he got a bit funny about it all, long story anyway i couldnt see him being able to do it any time soon...
Then I saw R-jays DIY spray job, so I sent him off a pm, asking for help etc, now I just have to say this guy is a top bloke, right from the first message he couldnt have been more helpful, gave me an awesome price, stressed right from the start it wont be perfect (was like he was trying to talk me out of it!) but I went ahead with it, sent him a lot of pms, he gave me tips, i found a paint that I liked, was able to get the paint code for, and that auto one had the recepie for (MASSIVE props to Dave at auto one chatswood, the paint we went with has a MASSIVE ammount of white pearl in it so they had to order some in, the supplier wasnt going to be able to get it to me in time, so he rang around all the auto one stores tracked down what he needed and went and picked it up in his break!)
where was I... yes I got 4 litres of colour, which is the ford blueprint topcoat, ford spray it on a blue base, and I got 2 litres of dark silver base (subaru bluish silver) Tan got some quality clear, and primer filler, and I spent about 2 weeks prepping the car.

I was going to do a bare metal respray, but half the cars putty anyway and it was gonna take way too long so after doing a quarter panel and a door decided not to, time wasted: 2 afternoons :gapteeth: the original plan was do it all by hand with 800 then 1200, but i decided to use an electric sander, went out and bought a 1/4 sheet sander from kmart for $40, it came with some rough paper too, nice, i guess.
The finish this gave with 800 was crazy, take 2 lesbian pornstars and a bottle of baby lotion and go wild, whatever, youve got nothing on how smooth / slippery the finish was :angel: well I got lazy decided to go rougher... 400, then 360, then chanced it with a sheet of 180... whatever i used the finish was like glass! so I tried a sheet of 80, on the bare metal it scratched it up a little, but on the old paint it was still smooth as hell, so i used that on the electric sander to rub back the whole car, only took me 2 afternoons to get a surface I was happy with.

I also decided to get rid of the aireal, rear wiper nozzle (left the wiper though after long hard thought) and the centre set of spoiler holes, as they offer next to no support anyway and the TRD wing ill get when i have the cash doesnt use them.
So I got some fibre reinforced putty, used that to fill the majority of the aireal hole, I will never, ever, EVER work with that stuff again, even if you paid me! And some normal putty to get a smooth finish over the top and for the smaller holes. Im happy with the job I did, people say get them welded, I had a go myself and you cant tell where the nozzel and drivers side centre hole was at all no matter how hard you look, if you put your noze against the passengers side paint you can see a TTIIINNYYY ripple, its not a showcar and it cost me next to nothing, Im happy :) aireal under close observation doesnt 100% follow the curve of the body but wouldnt have with welding either.
Once these holes were all patched and done, I started masking, boy did I misunderestimate how long that was gonna take! spent about 5 hours masking, but I know in the end it was worth it.
Arranged to meet tan at his warehouse at 8:30 on monday morning and had a break, phew I think I deserved that :hihi: Left the mountains at 4:30 on monday morning with a car trailer etc, picked the car up from turramurra and I was on my way.

Got to the warehouse unloaded it all and this is where the fun starts!
Hit the whole car with wax and grease remover while Tan was mixing up some primer/filler to give a squeaky clean (literally) surface.
Sprayed down the primer filler (MMmmmmm mustard yellow and smells like garlic mixed with petrol or something foul like that) to hide any tiny scratches there might be, and give a good surface for the paint to stick to.
When that had dried for about 45 mins (sets really really fast and it was sprayed on thin, gave it a quick rub over with 1200 grit and cleaned it with wax and grease remover, Tans mixing up the base coat.
Ah christ, the bumpers and sides are outside, run outside and grab them, quickly clean them, prime them, crisis averted!
While that drys we sprayed the car with the base, 2 thin coats to get a good uniform finish and hide any traces of primer outline you could see before... cleaned the now dry bumpers and sprayed them with base too.
Anyone who is thinking of spraying their car silver, I recommend this paint colour. It looked awesome, very close to quicksilver actually, just a bit more silver and a bit less grey.
when this was all done, I went to the servo and grabbed a huge ammount of drinks, and a bag of ice, woman mustve thought i was a sugar junkie trying to OD!
Got back to the warehouse as Tan was about to mix up the topcoat, it just looked incredible, all the pearl in it, then when the paint thinner hit it it went crazy! fizzing and mixing itself, with all different shades and patterns, I sat and watched it for 5 minutes, cheap thrills or maybe I was just high on fumes, who knows! :fart:
Mixed that up and started spraying, the contrast between the blue and silver was awesome, the 2 colours matched perfectly, tempted to deliberatly miss huge patches with the blue! nope nice try got some pictures and moved on, colours coming along nicely, I just cant believe how good it looked with all the pearl in it! Let that coat flash dry and then did another 2 coats.

Tan goes where are the door handles and mirrors Dave?
OH SH*T F$CK etc, Chopper himself couldnt have outdone me, theyre sitting inside the car. Too late now! We'll have to do them later.

Time for some clear, Tan cleans his gun, goes and gets the clear , opens the tins up (its 2 parts, clear and Hardener, He informs me this stuff is very potent, tells me not to breathe it, takes a whiff and looks like hes gonna pass out :gapteeth: Mix that up, bit thinner than recomended, from experience, to try and eliminate the dreaded orange peel!
by this stage it was already dark so we were fighting a losing battle, I was probably in the wrong a bit here, putting on some pressure, should have called it a day but no Im an impatient bastard so down the first coat of clear goes, did the kit first to see what it looked like, god this stuff is insane! you get what you pay for, the gloss on this is beyond stupid, reminded me of candy, almost wanted to lick it, hello mr paint fumes I guess :hihi:
Happy with all that, no runs or anything, looks incredible in what light we had (mediocre floodlights 60 feet up aint that great) and moved on to the car.
Once all that was done stood back and had a good look... OH NOES we have a run! Look around the car OH NOES, another, this ones nowhere near as bad, stuff it we'll call it a day. Went to pack everything up, Tan accidently turns off the lights, great theyve got to cool down before they will turn back on, Packing up in the dark is fun, put the stuff away, leave the car in the warehouse, lock up go to leave, Tan realises h hasnt cleaned his gunm runs back inside to clean it, another crisis averted! Arrange to meet back at the warehouse at 12 today, go home, and get first sleep in 3 days.

Wake up and its overcast, frigging brilliant. Went down anyway, but we decided it was too humid so spent most of the day rubbing the car back carefully and getting rid of the runs. still not done rubbing the car back, going to make sure its smoother than glass before we do a few more coats of clear on Friday...

Reassemble the car, and with a lot of nervous inching forward and cooking the clutch, load it onto the trailer, this will test your hill starts more than anything else, mine arent all that great :) (btw BP car trailers suck!)
Drive home very nervously and unload it all, eat some food, spend an hour uploading, resizing, sorting photos, put on photobucket and come on here to spend 2 hours writing this post and loading some pics up for all you guys :)

I really cant be F*cked to write any more so Ill post some pics and give you the link to my photobucket gallery.
 

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some pics I took last night, there was still loooooaaaddddds of fumes in the air so camera wasnt happy, and it was getting dark, flash was useless, but they show the different colours better than they do in the light:




thatll do...

And some pics in the light, of it almost done, keeping in mind half of its been rubbed back so these pics take the justice it deserves, murder it and burn the body :(
When its 100% finished ill get someone with a really good camera to take some nice shots and post them up.




No my rear rim is not hacked to pieces, thats clearcoat dust from wetsanding.
Yes my front rim is hacked to pieces.
Also, the gap youll notice under the passenger side headlight is my fault, i snapped a big piece off the bar (the whole part that connects it to the car on that side) and had to repair it. Oops.
I need to get A life, Some sleep, A girlfriend, All of the above.

OH OH OH, THE PAINT :D

And a link to my gallery, where you will find too many pictures.
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/bb7_rider/

oh, and I spent literally 20 seconds on each headlight to get them like that, before they were really badly clouded, Im happy!


And a note to all you 56k users, by now when your reading this, I realise your dead, and I apologize for the inconvieniance this may cause you. :sadwave:

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! proof I have too much time on my hands, almost 12 000 characters :gtfo:


Edit: that sexy beat who has been partly featured in a few of the pictures is Tan (R-Jay) if you recognise his legs or torso around buy him a beer for me :)

Next step, some nice skirts, trial rear bar, pump those guards out and dump the thing on its arse, and yes. its an NA.

And to anyone that says dont do it, its a mkIV it deserves better, get the pros to do it and pay them enough so they can go home and buy there gold leaf toilet paper blah blah blah go jump, its my car and Im doing everything on it myself, i dont sit at my car and look at it all day, I drive it, and I work on it, and Im happy with that :)
 

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talkin bout a fat assed write up! looks pretty kl, id have done it a touch darker if it were possible!

lol the rim is a bit fucked, looks great though nd great info,love the do luck!

Kind regards,
Yann
 

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Looks good, You really need to rub it out now so it doesn't look so dull... And I would also redo the front bumper, it does look very uneven and very wavy, but other than that color looks good... What color is it?
 

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I think I'm going to do this to my car one of these years. I've got a single car garage that I can make into a paint booth. I've sprayed some panels back in school in materials class. That was a good time.

Way to go!!!!
 

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the front bumper was dropped by my flatmate so yea, the top is farked :( ill replace it when they get more stock in 3 weeks, it was paint that one or get a blitz one (mind you he was gonna give it to me for $100) chose to leave the doluck... i dont get what you mean by wavy, its actually really even, its probably just the light... and the car has a very small amount of orange peel, because we sprayed down the first layer of clear very thick, to allow us to rub it back, the next few coats will be very thin, and my friends spending $700 on a new gun, so we should be sweet :)

I was hoping it would turn out a bit darker too, was thinking about spraying on a black base but thought it would come out too dark, Im happy with how it is now though :)

The colour is ford Blueprint, paint code UU, base is subaru bluish silver, forget the paint code...

oh and about the bumper, im gonna put a strip of rubber across the top so you wont even notice it :)
 

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toyotasupra916 said:
wow is that orange peel??
lol, that and alot of other mistakes,your friend should have tried his skills on a fence before doing this to your Supra, cause that shit looks hideous,
A $200 MAACO paint job looks 100000 times better,what in the world pushed you to make that decision? :wtcslap: maybe I'm not a proffesional,but for last 15 years I own a custom paint and body shop and do mostly high end paint jobs and to my quality standards your paint job would look bad on farm equipment,not to mention a Supra,
sorry for beeing so harsh, but that's the reality,
the color is nice ,I like that
 

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lol, that and alot of other mistakes,your friend should have tried his skills on a fence before doing this to your Supra, cause that shit looks hideous,
A $200 MAACO paint job looks 100000 times better,what in the world pushed you to make that decision? :wtcslap: maybe I'm not a proffesional,but for last 15 years I own a custom paint and body shop and do mostly high end paint jobs and to my quality standards your paint job would look bad on farm equipment,not to mention a Supra,
sorry for beeing so harsh, but that's the reality,
the color is nice ,I like that

well maybe instead of bagging some guys giving it a go, youd give us some tips for next time?
or would that be too much of an ask for the guys around here... this is why i normally stay on the aus forum, the guys are human.
And even if he had "practised his skills on a fence" some tosser "pro" fence painter would have come along and said that shit looks hideous by my be all end all skill level standards your paint job would look bad in an art book, should have practised with crayons. :scratch:

its a massive improvement over stock and thats good enough for me, i dont refrigerate my car, I drive it.
 

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If you look at X-1 circle the left corner looks like there was a major crack or you did not do the prep work right there... You will see the mess up top because the black rubber piece only covers the screw whole leaving the top to where you can see all that... I would sand it down and prep the bumper again before putting it back on.

Also is that paint suppose to turn colors like that... It looks like its almost transparent where your silver base coat is coming thru... I am not a pro by far but when I was picking my color I went thru the same mess but on test boards... My paint is transparent and my painter said he would need to use a dark base and it came out great. My buddy did the same with the same color only with a lighter base on a honda and it came out like yours, to where you can see the base layer popping thru.

Again I am by no means a pro but I did learn alot when I finally learned to do it the right way. There looks to be alot of orange peel and I hope you layed enough clear to rub out.
Good luck and post pics when it sanded and buffed.
 

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You need to wet sand this car a few times. This car is about 300 hours from being done right. The cheap way will be to sand down the clear and then wetsand the color, give it a small respray and then paint and wetsand again. The right way will be to strip the car, use an acid dip on the metal to take the surface coat. Primer, then start with a dark basecoat followed by that silver and then the blue. Wet sand, spray, repeat as desired. Clearcoat and then wetsand, repeat as desired. These last two steps are what seperates a $200. job from a $20,000 job.
 

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the front bumper was dropped by my flatmate so yea, the top is farked :( ill replace it when they get more stock in 3 weeks, it was paint that one or get a blitz one (mind you he was gonna give it to me for $100) chose to leave the doluck... i dont get what you mean by wavy, its actually really even, its probably just the light... and the car has a very small amount of orange peel, because we sprayed down the first layer of clear very thick, to allow us to rub it back, the next few coats will be very thin, and my friends spending $700 on a new gun, so we should be sweet :)

I was hoping it would turn out a bit darker too, was thinking about spraying on a black base but thought it would come out too dark, Im happy with how it is now though :)

The colour is ford Blueprint, paint code UU, base is subaru bluish silver, forget the paint code...

oh and about the bumper, im gonna put a strip of rubber across the top so you wont even notice it :)

Droping the bumper has nothing to do with the ripples that i showed you, that is the way cheap bumpers are made. All you had to do is spend more time and do it right, and should have practice on some kind of crappy car instead of messing up a SUPRA like that.
 
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