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Master Shit Fixer
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So my Supra has 71k miles on it, and after 14 years of getting in and out of it, my driver's seat leather was cracking. I've always thought that a car that can pull .99 latteral Gs on a skidpad deserved better latteral support in the seats. So I started looking into replacing the seats with better ones instead of getting the seats reupholstered. The new ones had to look like they might have come with the car from the factory (I'm something of a purist). After a lot of research, I decided on the Recaro "Sport" seats. I got the "Topline" model (electric+vent fan+heat) for the driver's seat, and the base model for the passenger's seat (rarely used anyway)...the same basic feature set as the stock seats (power driver's, manual passenger's).

My car is Baltic Blue (the best looking color, of course) with beige leather seats, beige carpet, and black floor mats (and instrument panel/console, of course). For the new seats, I decided on Recaro's beige leather with black leather bolsters (side and thigh). This was not a "standard" color combination, so they charged me a little up charge. I also had them stitch the "Recaro" logo in black thread so it would be very very subtle.

The Recaro driver's seat (the Topline one) has on-seat buttons for power height and recline adjustments, as well as the seat heater and seat vent. But since Toyota made a set of seat heater buttons for this car (sold only on Canadian models, so I hear), I wanted that button for my instrument panel. Ordered it from Curt, who got it sent in from Japan (thanks Curt!). I then rewired the Recaro seat so that, in addition to the on-seat buttons, the Toyota button set would also operate the heat and vent (left button for heat, right button for air/vent). A nice side effect is that the Toyota button's LEDs light up if I happen to bump the on-seat buttons. The last few pictures (below) show this button set. Now I just need to relabel the right button from "R" to "Cool".

I also ran my radar detector's remote speaker up into the seat (wire completely hidden), with a small speaker set into one of the 4-point harness holes, which will be right next to one of my ears. Now I'll be able to hear the radar warnings with the roof off and the radio cranked!

Overall, I'm very pleased with the result. The leather match is perfect, and the two-tone look matches the rest of the interior.

First, the "before" picture:


Old passenger seat next to new passenger seat:


The same seats showing the slick side profile of the Recaros:


Right side of Recaro passenger seat showing lumbar pump:


Bottom of Recaro passenger seat:


Recaro passenger seat installed next to stock driver's seat (had to take a break at this point):


The "before" picture of the driver's seat:


The "after" picture of the Recaro driver's seat:


Both Recaros from the side, installed:


Nice detail of the new interior, from above:


The instrument panel with the Canada-only OEM seat heater button installed:


Closer-up view of all my instrument panel buttons now:


Close-up of the Canada-only OEM seat heater button:
 

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That looks awesome! and very clean!
 

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Nicely done. I like it! I went and looked at some sites and had to re-read your post to find the non-standard color charge as I couldn't find that color combo....very nice!
 

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Nicely done. I like it! I went and looked at some sites and had to re-read your post to find the non-standard color charge as I couldn't find that color combo....very nice!
Thanks! Recaro has a standard up-charge for "customization", but the Recaro dealer I bought from talked them down, I think to about 25% of the normal up-charge, since both leathers were stock colors...I was just combining them differently than Recaro normally does.
 

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Nice seats! Those OEM buttons can you still order those? I wouldn't mind adding heated seats since they sell the parts separately for cheap.
 

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Discussion Starter · #8 · (Edited)
Weight difference from the new drivers seat to the stocker?
Stock driver's seat with mounting brackets is 49 lbs. (weighed on my bathroom scale).

Recaro Sport Topline seat (according to Recaro...I didn't weigh it) is 45.2 lbs., plus Recaro slider (3-4 lbs. maybe?), plus Wedge Engineering mounting bracket (don't know, maybe another 4 lbs.). My guess is a total of 53 lbs.

I'll weigh the Recaro/Recaro/Wedge combination on the bathroom scale when I take them back out this weekend to replace a plastic trim piece that was cracked in shipping. Then I'll post another reply with the exact weight, and I'll edit this post and put the result here:
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Update: Recaro Sport Topline seat plus Recaro slider plus Wedge Engineering mounting bracket is 58 lbs.
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Those are VERY nice seats, plus the vastly improved functionality. Congrats and good luck with them.

If you don't mind posting or PM'ing me about what these cost, I'd appreciate it since I've been thinking along these lines and those are exactly the type I'd want...but all black to match my car. Does a vendor here sell those, or did you get them elsewhere?
 

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Nice seats! Those OEM buttons can you still order those?
Yep...give Curt a call.

"Switch, seat heater", 84751-14030, list $81.22, cost $62.01

Got them in less than a month (came from Japan).

Edit: Here are the part #s for the connector that plugs into the OEM swtich:

Quantity 1: 90980-10933 "HOUSING, CONNECTOR 6 PIN" list $6.60, cost $5.04 (harness side)
Quantity 6: 82998-12440 "TERMINAL, FEMALE" list $6.55, cost $5.00 EA (terminals with wires attached)
 

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Nice seats! Those OEM buttons can you still order those? I wouldn't mind adding heated seats since they sell the parts separately for cheap.

The temps over in Santa Clara must get a lot colder than over here in Los Gatos because the last time I checked even on our coldest days we didn't need friggin seat heaters. :fawk:
 

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they look great! but are they comfortable? for example, good for short distances? good for long distances? better then stock seats?
 

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If you don't mind posting or PM'ing me about what these cost, I'd appreciate it since I've been thinking along these lines and those are exactly the type I'd want...but all black to match my car.
Nice. Those would look good in full black in my car.. What was the damage on the set? Or a rough round a bout price?
I have no problem posting the info here. They were a combined birthday/Christmas gift from my wife (although I did all the research and legwork).

Recaro's pricing is pretty straightforward. Dealer prices seem to vary by a few hundred dollars per seat. Here's what we paid for mine:

Recaro Sport (passenger seat) in beige leather / black leather: $1290.
Recaro Sport Topline (driver's seat) in beige leather / black leather: $1550.
Recaro sliders: $80 each.
Wedge Engineering brackets: $100.00 each.

Evidently, Recaro makes brackets for our Supras, but they are ridiculously expensive because they have to bring them in from Japan. I think that Recaros were an option on JDM Supras during the last couple of years they were sold there.

Shipping will run somewhere between $90 and $180 depending on your location and bargaining skills. And my Dad paid about $62 for the OEM seat heater switch (if anyone goes this route, PM me and I'll give you the details of wiring modifications in the seat and connection to the switch).

Does a vendor here sell those, or did you get them elsewhere?
I don't know of a supporting vendor here that sells them, but I haven't done an exhaustive search. I got mine from Danny at GMP Performance in Charlotte, NC. Their pricing seemed to match the lowest that I saw on the web, and they were very good to work with. I'm not sure what the rules are for posting vendor info here. If a mod or admin can tell me, I'll be happy to post contact info. Otherwise, feel free to PM me and I'll get you the info.
 

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Yep...give Curt a call.

"Switch, seat heater", 84751-14030, list $81.22, cost $62.01

Got them in less than a month (came from Japan).
Whoa very expensive for the buttons lol. I wonder if they'll work with aftermarket heater's, I just want an OEM look for the switches.

Haha wrenchwhore while I don't necessarily need it, it would be nice on cold windy days.
 

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Absolutely gorgeous :)

And thanks for posting the pics of the buttons - hadn't seen those before. :)
 

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How do they feel? Is there any height difference?
they look great! but are they comfortable? for example, good for short distances? good for long distances? better then stock seats?
They feel great! Very supportive, and they hug my back just like I want. I'm 5'7" 150lbs. I've already gotten some easy 4-wheel drift on a daily left-hand turn just because I'm not sliding sideways in my seat. Yes, I think they are better than stock seats...better latteral support, and very comfortable. I haven't had a chance to drive any long distances in them yet, but there are no pressure points, so I have no doubt that they'll be fine. If you can find a Mitsubishi Evo (a year or two old I think), they have Recaro Sport seats standard (although they use a custom stitching pattern). That's what I did to sit in them before purchasing, since the nearest Recaro dealer is 3 hours away from me and they don't stock a lot of these seats anyway.

As far as the height difference, there are 2 answers. See my next post for height and seatbelt position info.
 

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Nice seats! Those OEM buttons can you still order those? I wouldn't mind adding heated seats since they sell the parts separately for cheap.
I have a Canadian car as well with the heated seats--which came standard in Canada since it gets so damn cold... lol

Nice seats... they kind of offset the stock tan a little bit... I just bought some new seats and I am going to put them in soon as well... maybe I will post some pics...
 
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