I wanted to just check to see, and the “kia Carnival” makes just shy of 290 horses, and is far from the most powerful shitbox minivan, where the contemporary mustang 5.0 makes 480. I have driven Supras and all sorts of other things, and it’s a 90s ride, is what it is. They are sick, I love them and more so the 2jz, they are also old, and stock they are just slow. I also think a tank full of 100 octane and a 150 shot of nitrous and that accord 3.0 might hurt some feelings at the drag strip too 😂
I very much realize and appreciate it was the best car of the 90s except maybe the Mclaren F1, but it’s shockingly high sticker price makes comparing it to contemporary cars easier, and the contemporary sporty cars blow it out of the water spectacularly. For reference the 2023 mustang gt5.0 is 40k, the same as the Supra was in 93 8 economic crashes later, with the dollar currently worth half of what it was. Fortunately the tech (especially tire and fuel injection tech) can be implemented and I love to see it , let’s just be real about the performance of cars 30 years ago, it is absolutely true, minivans are now faster.
Again I’m sorry