Single under 7k?????

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Discussion Starter · Aug 27, 2001

Hey guys I'm thinking about going single but only have a 6-7k for the whole kit.

I have the HKS twin power ignition, exhaust, dp, evc4, and blitz intake.

i know along with the kit i will need to buy a intercooler so here's my question-

are there any single turbo kits out there that i can buy for under 6-7k and be able to keep my stock fuel system? if i have to buy parts for that then i know it will go above my budget right? what do you guys think? this is for a 6speed

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SupraWood

· #2 · Aug 27, 2001

I think your best bet is going to be the PHR street turbo. It will even allow you to keep the stock MAS. I think it should put out upwards of 500rwhp.

mervinnn

· #3 · Aug 27, 2001

There is a dude on this forum (well at least one person anyway) that is running around with the Greddy T-78 kit on stock fuel for the time being. I guess he has a VPC but I don't know. Those IMO are a great kit, can be had for $3700 and have great potential. The T-78 seems to have much fame recently and maybe be argued to be "too laggy" but I think it's worth a look. There is a recent post (T-78 vs. T-51) or something like that. A dude posted a graph plotting the power outputs of many of the famous turbos for Supras. Cross reference those outputs with your power goals then look up the prices for the kits on the various parts websites. Good luck, wish I could afford a single!

WEST

· #4 · Aug 27, 2001

Inexpensive single kit

I have the GReddy T78 kit on my 6speed car and lag is of no issue, from a roll, but if you want to race someone from a dead dig you might want to invest in a two-step, a small shot, or both. I think it's a great kit, but I am really a little leary about pushing boost above one bar on the stock fuel system.

Bob

mervinnn

· #5 · Aug 27, 2001

Yeah, Bob (West) was the guy whose post I remembered reading. Listen to him, real world experience.

turbomkiv

· #6 · Aug 27, 2001

West, I am getting the same setup with the Type R BOV. How do you like it so far. I am installing the fuel system and the T-78 this weekend.

WEST

· #7 · Aug 27, 2001

At 1 bar it is not as quick as BPU but it is as fast. At 1.2 bar it is way quicker, from a roll, and pulls much harder up top too.

Bob

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Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 27, 2001

I had thought about the T78 but I would need a whole new setup fuel wise to run what I really want and that's something beyond 500rwhp. I have heard about the lag and it is pretty cheap but if I can't boost past 14-15psi what's the point you know? I do appreciate all of you guys helping me out here. With SP's set up what else do I need besides what's in the kit? what even comes with it? thanks for your help guys!

$upraMan

· #9 · Aug 27, 2001

You could buy mine

. I have a brand new RPS kit with turbonetics T64 ball bearing turbo & a HKS Type R FMIC. $6K + shipping for both. You save about $1,200 from what I paid. These are brand new.

Just don't crank up the boost until you get fuel installed. The turbo will support 600+ rwhp.

WEST

· #10 · Aug 27, 2001

I would say that you will have to upgrade your fuel system for just about any single turbo setup you go with. The fuel system limits you to about 500 rwhp. Even if you get a small turbo like the SP60 you are still runing the chance of runing lean. The SP60 should be able to get into the high 500's. I think RPS makes a small single that is safe for the stock fuel system, but it is more money then the T78, and will only get you to a max of about 475-500rwhp. If I only wanted to stay around that power range it would be much less expensive to get a 75 hp shot of nitrous. I would just get the T78 and have some discipline. Don't turn the boost up until you get the fuel system. You will be much happier in the long run.

Bob

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Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 27, 2001

$upraMan said:
You could buy mine. I have a brand new RPS kit with turbonetics T64 ball bearing turbo & a HKS Type R FMIC. $6K + shipping for both. You save about $1,200 from what I paid. These are brand new.

Just don't crank up the boost until you get fuel installed. The turbo will support 600+ rwhp.

Hmmm...interesting. What does it come with? what else would I need to install it? boost limits?

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Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 27, 2001

I don't know too much about single seeing how I'm still running stocks but to do it right, Andi calculated it out to be about (I think) 20K. There is alot more to going single than just the turbo, if your going to do it "right" I would at least talk to a serious mechanic before doing it instead of relying on people like me with second or third hand knowledge

Hope this helps.

$upraMan

· #13 · Aug 27, 2001

Mr. Drummond said:
Hmmm...interesting. What does it come with? what else would I need to install it? boost limits?

PRS kit: comes w/ SS equal length header (swain coated), Turbonetics WG, HKS BOV, Air Filter, 3" polished intake pipe, shorty downpipe (swain coated), full lenght downpipe, pipe that connects the WG (swain coated), all lines & fittings, Turbonetics T64 ball bearing turbo, polished compressor housing, 0.81 A/R, heat sheild and maybe a couple of other things I've forgotten about. Basically, the complete RPS kit w/ a bunch of extras.

HKS Type R: again, this is a brand new unit. It comes complete with all piping that you would need for a single turbo Supra (BPU guys need to purchase a couple of additional pieces to make it work w/ stock twins). HKS unit comes w/ PS relocator kit, it is a very nice intercooler.

To install it all you need is a boost controller. I have a Turbonetics Dial-a-Boost MBC available, if you're interested. Other than that you can run it on stock MAF & fuel, just KEEP THE BOOST LOW. Once you get VPC, GCC & fuel you can run as much as 29 psi if you have your car tuned right and are using race gas.

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$upraMan

· #14 · Aug 27, 2001

WinglessTurbo said:
I don't know too much about single seeing how I'm still running stocks but to do it right, Andi calculated it out to be about (I think) 20K. There is alot more to going single than just the turbo, if your going to do it "right" I would at least talk to a serious mechanic before doing it instead of relying on people like me with second or third hand knowledge Hope this helps.

Obviously, this depends on what you mean by "doing it right." 20K is very high, unless you're including everything from gauges to upgraded cooling system to cams...

You could easily pick up VPC/GCC for $1,200-1,300 and fuel system shouldn't be more than $1,500. That's still under $10K or slightly over once you add in labor. Also this is what most people talk about when they say single turbo conversion (well, maybe they add twin power too). Brakes, suspension, cage, etc. are a different thing.

SilverTT

· #15 · Aug 27, 2001

I haven't looked into singles much but its something I'll do in the future. Where do you get a figure like $20k??
My setup would look something like this....
upgraded tranny/converter $4k
single turbo $5k
front mount $1.5k
Vpc $1k
Fuel...not sure $1.5k?
thats only $13.5k
There might be a few other things...what am i forgetting?

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