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Word is this forum will be updated by SIV staff when a full itinerary is available.
Has anybody who's registered for the event received an itinerary/schedule of events, or any other related information, from the organizers?


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Thanks, Captain. Much appreciated. This is the first I've seen of any information other than the original announcement made several months ago.


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Any hope that we could get some info on the ladies' night? Megan was asking about that the other night, but neither of us have facebook or anything like that.
 

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Thanks, Captain. Much appreciated. This is the first I've seen of any information other than the original announcement made several months ago.


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Ken, the communication has fallen off a cliff. No posts on celicasupra.com about the event at all and if you aren't on IG every day, you miss a lot. It's a shame that the organizers think that posting updates on social media only will bring in the entire spectrum of Supra owners. Remember when we had a running list of who is coming from where and driving what? Remember when we had scenic cruises, real trophies, poker tournaments, autocross and t-shirts without spelling errors? Yeah, me too. $85 for a parking spot at the show & shine and a taco dinner? No thanks
 

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Social media very nearly killed off the forums, would be a shame to see it kill off the premier Supra event too. Lot of folks I know don't have any form of social media, and it seems like more and more realize its toxic nature. Leaving folks in the dark because you choose to limit your marketing of an event is one sure way to lose out on a treasure trove of attendees and the wonderful cars they've put together. It would be unfortunate if anyone had to ask, "have you heard anything about SIV this year?"

As much as I love that we have a track day lined up, I'd certainly welcome a return to autocross. Having helped run one locally for the past 4 years now, I can tell you, it's a LOT of work. Everything from procurement of a lot and cones and timing equipment, to insurance, to the setup and lot cleaning (you'd be amazed the debris you find in even well maintained parking lots), it all adds up. Then there's the small matter of getting course workers. You either do it yourselves and split driving duties and work duties, which requires everyone be willing to pitch in and do their part to make sure the other group gets a fair shot at it, or you pay people to do it for you. Figure a decent sized course takes 20 to 25 people to reset cones and assist with keeping folks accountable.

To me, the scenic drives were fun the first few times, but there's only so much to see around the Vegas area. Traffic wrangling is a bit of a nightmare. It's awesome to see so many of these cars all in one place, in motion, even in my own jaded eyes. However, I can't really say that I miss it. Between the folks that have no sense of direction (thanks, GPS, for eroding that instinct), the folks that can't drive as part of a caravan and draw the wrong kind of attention to our group, and the general fustercluck that is modern traffic... I was generally worn out and / or grumpy by the end of the scenic drive most years. It's stressful, and not the good kind.

Now, in the past several years, Megan and I have taken to our idea of a "scenic" drive. We set out a few days early, and road trip across Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, then finally join up with the AZ group to caravan to Vegas. We've seen some amazing sights, and there are still PLENTY more to see, just in those states alone! So... I have an idea. Rather than a single day scenic drive, what say you all to a Grand Tour style option? Go out of your way on the way to Vegas, find some curvy back roads, take a mountain pass or two, drive through all the "green" parts of the maps that tend to be national forests, find a lake to visit, just... avoid the interstates as much as possible. We do that and love it. Unfortunately I couldn't get the time off for this year, so it'll be the I-15 slog for us too, but if you're able to take the time, do it!

@suprarossa Greg, looks like Saturday is wide open during the morning and afternoon, ever organize a poker tournament? I'd bet my hat you could get Bob Sully on board. Spread the word now and make it happen. I might even join in. :)
 

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Ken, the communication has fallen off a cliff. No posts on celicasupra.com about the event at all and if you aren't on IG every day, you miss a lot. It's a shame that the organizers think that posting updates on social media only will bring in the entire spectrum of Supra owners. Remember when we had a running list of who is coming from where and driving what? Remember when we had scenic cruises, real trophies, poker tournaments, autocross and t-shirts without spelling errors? Yeah, me too. $85 for a parking spot at the show & shine and a taco dinner? No thanks
@suprarossa, I'm one of those guys that has no social media presence whatsoever. No FB, Twitter or IG. The SIV2021 thread started by the organizers indicated that thread would include future event updates. Unfortunately, that hasn't occurred and, now, we're only 4 days away from the event as this is written.

Even the helpful screeenshot posted by @Captain has "TBD" next to certain event activities. I'll never understand why SF, the largest forum of its type, and home to the largest group of car owners, is not the primary marketing vehicle for the event (along with social media platforms).

As an official registrant, I had been expecting some type of official event email as in the past, but that has not occurred, not even information regarding physical registration where goodie bags, t-shirts and whatnot are distributed. If someone has any info on this, or in addition to the info posted by @Captain, posting in this thread, or the official thread, it would be greatly appreciated.


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Social media very nearly killed off the forums, would be a shame to see it kill off the premier Supra event too. Lot of folks I know don't have any form of social media, and it seems like more and more realize its toxic nature. Leaving folks in the dark because you choose to limit your marketing of an event is one sure way to lose out on a treasure trove of attendees and the wonderful cars they've put together. It would be unfortunate if anyone had to ask, "have you heard anything about SIV this year?"
Hey I hear you guys about social media. Even though I'm on IG, I prefer forums myself, since they're a lot more helpful for people who actually want to talk about the car and the ins/outs rather than just share pictures and memes.
I'm on forums for each of my favorite cars/chassis.


Anyways, I ordered a SIV ticket (at the last minute--like 2 weeks ago) when my engine and MK3 were still separate entities. I worked furiously over the last 2 weeks to get it ready but won't be able to get it done. Everything is now together and I'm about 2 big steps away still, wiring, and an exhaust connection....but I was planning to leave Tuesday or Wednesday and there's no way.
Could still go in my stock MK5, but then I realized I didn't actually pay for the hotel, just the deposit LMAO I'm a dumbazs. So I have to pay for a hotel, dog and cat sitter all in the same week, plus the car I wanted to take, the real Supra isn't going to make it..I decided to cancel my trip.

If anyone wants my ticket, let me know. $30 for forum members. Of course you'd have to get a hotel and go there lol. I put up my ticket on my Instagram story too. Not sure if anyone here or there would want to at the actual last minute like this when it's 2-3 days away..
 

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@NARFALICIOUS Way to get the work done in such short time though man! Hopefully we'll see ya next year. My Mk3's been on the sidelines for a couple years now as well... I feel your pain.

To everyone else, see ya tomorrow! :)
 

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Brad, and anyone else attending - tell the fellow OG's that I say hello!
My career rudely interrupted any chance of attending this year. Drink one for me! 🍺 or a water or whatever :)
 
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Social media very nearly killed off the forums, would be a shame to see it kill off the premier Supra event too. Lot of folks I know don't have any form of social media, and it seems like more and more realize its toxic nature. Leaving folks in the dark because you choose to limit your marketing of an event is one sure way to lose out on a treasure trove of attendees and the wonderful cars they've put together. It would be unfortunate if anyone had to ask, "have you heard anything about SIV this year?"

As much as I love that we have a track day lined up, I'd certainly welcome a return to autocross. Having helped run one locally for the past 4 years now, I can tell you, it's a LOT of work. Everything from procurement of a lot and cones and timing equipment, to insurance, to the setup and lot cleaning (you'd be amazed the debris you find in even well maintained parking lots), it all adds up. Then there's the small matter of getting course workers. You either do it yourselves and split driving duties and work duties, which requires everyone be willing to pitch in and do their part to make sure the other group gets a fair shot at it, or you pay people to do it for you. Figure a decent sized course takes 20 to 25 people to reset cones and assist with keeping folks accountable.

To me, the scenic drives were fun the first few times, but there's only so much to see around the Vegas area. Traffic wrangling is a bit of a nightmare. It's awesome to see so many of these cars all in one place, in motion, even in my own jaded eyes. However, I can't really say that I miss it. Between the folks that have no sense of direction (thanks, GPS, for eroding that instinct), the folks that can't drive as part of a caravan and draw the wrong kind of attention to our group, and the general fustercluck that is modern traffic... I was generally worn out and / or grumpy by the end of the scenic drive most years. It's stressful, and not the good kind.

Now, in the past several years, Megan and I have taken to our idea of a "scenic" drive. We set out a few days early, and road trip across Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, then finally join up with the AZ group to caravan to Vegas. We've seen some amazing sights, and there are still PLENTY more to see, just in those states alone! So... I have an idea. Rather than a single day scenic drive, what say you all to a Grand Tour style option? Go out of your way on the way to Vegas, find some curvy back roads, take a mountain pass or two, drive through all the "green" parts of the maps that tend to be national forests, find a lake to visit, just... avoid the interstates as much as possible. We do that and love it. Unfortunately I couldn't get the time off for this year, so it'll be the I-15 slog for us too, but if you're able to take the time, do it!

@suprarossa Greg, looks like Saturday is wide open during the morning and afternoon, ever organize a poker tournament? I'd bet my hat you could get Bob Sully on board. Spread the word now and make it happen. I might even join in. :)
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Steve Michael and I were just discussing the poker tournament last week when I was in Phoenix. Yes, Bob would be the first to sign up, but either the first one out or the bad beat of the night lol. For several years in a row I offered to organize a poker tournament, but Miguel wasn't really interested. I just stopped asking. It's not that hard and the casino is completely on board.

Yes, the destinations are limited for a scenic drive, but the best pictures I have over the years are the group photos from Mt. Charleston or Red Rock Canyon. Still the background of my laptop. And yes, we have gone out on our own also and there is certainly a lot to see coming in to or out of Vegas.

And I agree that an autocross is a lot of work to manage, but why advertise it and why do we pay the large registration fee with costs built in for renting a place like LVMS parking lot, only to have it cancelled and no refund back to the ticket holders? Or the LVMS infield we were supposed to get last year that was cancelled?

It's because SIV has become a business out to make a profit just like any other. It is up to the consumer to decide if their money is being well spent or not.

Ken,

It is just laziness. Pure and simple. I emailed Aaron last year when it was announced that he was stepping in for Miguel and told him his biggest problem was lack of communication with sponsors and registrants. But I don't blame him for not doing it because he has a business to run, but there are others who should be updating forums (all generational forums) and their web page regularly. I just saw a FB post about the meeting spot for the Las Vegas Blvd cruise - posted 10 minutes before the meet up time. That says it all right there
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Wow, that is kinda sad communications. I've been aware there is a Supra event each year for a year or so, and had in the back of my mind I'd go if my Mk3 was done in time. Never saw a word about it in the forums, and I did a couple casual Google searches early in 2021 for it. Finished the Supra the Friday of SIV, and my son and I were literally looking for a road trip to do because my wife was out of town and it was just the two of us. WIth a freshly rebuilt Supra after 3 years of work. But we had no idea it was epically perfect timing for a father/son team to blast all the way down to Vegas. Having no idea, we took a fantastic first road trip all around Montana and Idaho but we'd have tossed food and clothes in and headed to SIV had there been any forum profile. Like others, I do absolutely zero social media and if they're relying 100% on attendance by heavy social media consumers, I can say with all candor the attendee profile might be heavily skewed enough for me it might not have been a good match. Forums are where the owner relationships are created and the kindnesses happen and the passion lives.

Anyhow, a tip of the hat to all those who made that event happen and I'm sorry I missed it. I've been a part of organizing things like that in the past and they take serious time that can test your personal relationships and you always swear at the end of it you'll never do it again. So, hat's off to Aaron and whomever else had a part in making SIV happen!
 

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Like others, I do absolutely zero social media and if they're relying 100% on attendance by heavy social media consumers, I can say with all candor the attendee profile might be heavily skewed enough for me it might not have been a good match.
Based on what I heard happened during the event, including the night cruise, I think you hit the nail on the head there. Sorry you missed out on what would have been an epic break in road trip!
 

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@suprarossa You even managed to get ol' Koos in that picture. Haha, he looks so young there... mid 2000's I'm guessing, before the girls drove him crazy? :p

As far as registration costs are concerned, your points are all valid. To me, I've been coming to these events for 15 years now, only missed a few from 2011-2013, and the cost of registration is truly a drop in the bucket in regards to Supra ownership in general. I probably leave $80 in rubber in Vegas haha. Not dismissing your value proposition, but inflation has significantly increased since I first started coming to Vegas.

I do sincerely wish communication was better though. That's my one sore spot this year. There's no hard cutoff line, of course, but if you're expecting your attendees to all have social media to communicate with, you're definitely leaving out a significant chunk of the owners out there.

@IdahoDoug Man I would have loved to have met you in person and seen what you've managed to put together. Next year? Also, we tend to road trip our way into Vegas. Are there any particularly good routes between you and Vegas? We like the scenic stuff, and would be coming from southwestern Wyoming.
 
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