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I think the fact that the Supra was so far ahead of its time back in the 90s is what makes it still a very fun and neat car to drive. You really dont have to compromise much if you chose to daily drive a Supra instead of a newer car. They're comfortable, elec. seat, cruise control, traction control, cd/tape player, etc. All in all they were built to be a nice, luxury sports care, and they still are today! They have the essentials that anyone would want if they were to drive it on a daily basis. The only luxurious thing, arguably, they may be missing are heated seats - but thats too heavy, and not everyone really cares for those.
 

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Supras sold in Canada has OEM heated seats.

The Summit Racing catalog I got in the mail yesterday has an aftermarket seat heater kit that can be easily applied to any car seat ...for about $100.



And jeremyhelling recently posted a good solution he found to another vital missing link, cup holders.
 

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hmm someone should start on aftermarket stock parts .

I think in the next 10 years, as less and less supra are going to be around, the prices will go up and as some ppl get older they will remember on there youth ,about what car they always wanted and as in the 10 years they should have a good sum of money and able to be buy as they say a '' piece of there youth back'' :p

My uncle 65 years old and retired now, just bought a 1967 ford mustang convertible for 30K, while he alrdy had a brand new 2008 ford mustang GT I knew he loved the mustang I asked him why he bought it, he told me 24 years ago he didn't have the money to buy the mustang as time pasted he had different cars, but as soon as he saw 1 for sale he told me he felt young again like the first time he saw the car and fell in love with it :p
 

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I think those that believe the MKIV is going to INCREASE in value over the next 10 years are sadly mistaken.

Maybe the ones <30k miles, but your average MKIV isn't going to be anything wildly special on the market. Maybe 30-40 years from now when I'm rolling in a Hydro fuel cell car the MKIV will become more of a collectable because it uses primitive dino fuel, but take a look at the quality and power of cars coming out right now. And comparing a MKIV to a supercar/exotic is very unrealistic at best.
 

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As I keep saying, the "glory years" of the MKIV are gone. Back in the day, this car was very advanced, but times have changed. Yes, the cars are rare, and potent, but as new technology emerges, these cars will become obsolete. When you have cars like the GTR that can destroy most Supras modified or not, in even stock form, the enthusiast base will shift to other cars.

I really like my car, but who am I kidding??? I'm only holding on to this car until I can get what I really want.....the GTR. I would love to keep the car as I'm puttin a lot of time and money into it, but I guess we'll see.

The car will SLOWLY die down in the next 10 years. However, in around 20 years, I believe this car will be a collectors item for sure.
 

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Supras sold in Canada has OEM heated seats.

The Summit Racing catalog I got in the mail yesterday has an aftermarket seat heater kit that can be easily applied to any car seat ...for about $100.

And jeremyhelling recently posted a good solution he found to another vital missing link, cup holders.
Thats a cool kit, I didn't know Summit carried those. I guess it would be neat to do, if you were going to get your seats recovered anyways!
 

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look at cars like the Grand National, you have to consider a decent GN is selling for damn near 87 sticker price.....and Those are hardly as rare as MKIV turbo's
I don't forsee the market ever going lower, not with inflation being what it is...hell a base 350z will run you 29k...they were just south of 26 when I bought mine.....I agree technology is taking cars to the next level, but with a cost....yes the LFA is badass, and for 200k, i'll probably never know first hand. You can hardly find a model of a MKIV, it isn't becasue there is a demand issue....
when mkiv's are selling for mullet mobile price it will be a glorious day, then I can have one in each color ;)

someone please help me, I must have missed the day in economics where they said increased demand and decreased supply = declining market
 

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someone please help me, I must have missed the day in economics where they said increased demand and decreased supply = declining market
Hah, so true. Very valid point, but I dont think that is getting across to some people.
 

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I think those that believe the MKIV is going to INCREASE in value over the next 10 years are sadly mistaken.

Maybe the ones <30k miles, but your average MKIV isn't going to be anything wildly special on the market. Maybe 30-40 years from now when I'm rolling in a Hydro fuel cell car the MKIV will become more of a collectable because it uses primitive dino fuel, but take a look at the quality and power of cars coming out right now. And comparing a MKIV to a supercar/exotic is very unrealistic at best.
Ok. Think about that.

Now did the "quality and power of cars coming out" really cause a significant decline in demand for "classic muscle"? I don't think so. In my opinon, if ANYthing really caused a significant decline in demand for "muscle" - it was the rising cost of gas and the much better fuel economy of the newer technology. (Some of us remember the 70's -sitting in lines at the pumps for a couple gallons).

That being said -- Do I feel the appreciation or admiration for muscle cars went away? No. It just became more economically(and ergonomically) feasible to drive a more fuel efficient/comfortable vehicle and "garage" the beasts for pleasure drives.

You know how it feels when you're cruising down the road in a Supra?... Well, cruising down the road in a '69 Z-28(or other classic muscle) is just as thrilling -- just a different type. The Supra may have a lot more "creature comforts" and be far more technologically advanced than the '69, but that doesn't make the '69 obsolete or make people run out and "dump" them. The "quality and power of cars coming out right now" doesn't make me suddenly lose my appreciation for a Supra, first gen Camaro, Mopar, or any other classically styled car. I appreciate them for what they ARE. Hence we get the term -- "CLASSIC".

Another thing that comes to mind. You have the "modifiers/tuners" and you have "stock/#'s matching" crowds. Newer technology has always affected the "modifier/tuner" demand much more than the "stock/#'s matching" group. Modified and/or high HP cars get a lot of publicity. (magazine covers, car shows, etc) This translates into more demand and recognition. However, as the "modifiers/tuners" move on to other cars - historically, a lot of those cars are "restored" to original due to the the demand for "originals". The fact that so many WERE modified only serves to INCREASE demand for unmolested examples. I'm not saying that modifying a car is bad -- only trying to show where the two different "crowds" feed off of one another. One thing BOTH crowds appreciate is what the car CAN be.

Another thought to consider. Think 12,000 Supras weren't enough to really create a wide enough "mass-market" appeal? (Compare the 700,000 first gen Camaros to 12,000 MKIV Supras) -- For example: How many people don't know what a first gen Camaro is? LOL Well, don't forget that there's a huge # of people that grew up playing video games that had Supras in them -- and that in itself is a huge boost to the car's recognition.

And as for exotic/supercars... ask someone that is fortunate enough to have a supercar if they still like the "Classics", or if they still smile and think "Cool car" when they see a nice one. Yea -- I don't think their supercar erased their basic appreciation for the other models.

I do agree that comparing Supras to exotic/supercars is unrealistic. Supras were made available at a much lower price point, many more were produced, and were designed for everyday use. But that's another discussion altogether. ;P
 

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Damn, very well put Spooled Rotten. The car will always carry a demand, I guess the question is will it still keep the HUGE demand that it has enjoyed the past 8-10 years? I don't think so, but there will always be people that love these cars.

The state of the economy has a big factor in the demand as well.
 

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The demand may actually stay constant in my mind, particularly if the number of "nice" examples continue to lessen over time. That way you obviously need less people overall to have the same overall level of demand. I guess you could say the demand for low mileage and unmolested Supras is likely to stay pretty constant
 

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someone please help me, I must have missed the day in economics where they said increased demand and decreased supply = declining market
Where's the Increased Demand? It's more like Turn-Over. Folks get bored with their MKIV's that they put thousands of miles on in the last couple years, and then sell it to the Newest 2F2F Fanboy that just learns about the Supra's potential - Like many of you Newbies that have replied in this thread.

Bottom line is I don't see an increase in demand at all going on. Don't be fooled by our little Micro-Economy that takes place here in Supraforums World. When you get out in the real world many folks that are huge sports car enthusiasts, while respect the Supra, could give a damn about a Supra.

Hey I love this car and will probably keep it for a long time. But I guess I'm alittle more realistic when it comes to Depreciating Assets.
 

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all the folks that are going to want a 100k gtr and can't touch one will turn to old faithful.....The next best thing for 1/3rd the price that will get-r done and still turn heads...like i said, glorious day when the mkiv supras are plentiful and 5k like camaro's....I think the market is still fairly strong for well modified and stock cars..the ragged body kits and poorly executed swaps will only make the prestine and propper more desireable....
 

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Eggzachery! I think the demand will still be there. If anything it might fade off a bit in a few years, but it isn't going to go dead. I see no current trends that indicate less people wanting Supras. In the next 5 years the demand will most likely go up (not astronomically, but up) from all the people that have wanted the car, but couldn't afford it, or were in school, or what have you. When people see a quality car they will recognize it as is noticed by the prices people are getting for their MKIV's in the past few years.

The aftermarket is already ingrained into this car so that isn't a worry. Yeah, there may not be any new innovations coming out anytime soon, but I bet if we start seeing variable geometry turbos on the aftermarket (I hope!!!) you are going to see people having their cake and eating the shit out of it! Hell all these 90's era Japanese cars might see a rise in demand.

I too hope they come down to around $5k, but I don't see that happening in the next 10 years, or 20 for that matter. And since the GT-R came up, if you are looking for a GT-R I don't think your biggest decision to make will be whether you want the Supra or the GT-R. That car is at such a high price-point, and limited production numbers, it is not going to interfere with the current, or future, Supra demand.

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I've got one more thing to add, then I'm done - Promise.

Let's just pretend we get some Tree-Hugging Democrat in office in the next 10 years. And by that time this whole Gore-instigated Global Warming crap gets WAY out of Control. Now we are in a time where ALL Vehicles that don't meet strict MPG Laws OR are NOT a Hybrid/Electric/Hydrogen (fill in the blank) Automobile - you can only use on a Track or Road Course? What happens then to not only our cars but everyone elses??

If you think I'm crazy, check out some of the things these foreign countries have done with Gun Control. If you don't think that somebody will make the case that Gas Guzzling Vehicles KILL - your crazy. Just talk to your local "Granola" and he'll tell you that your car's exhaust is Killing the WORLD!! Hahah - they are crazy, but the way we are heading - that day is coming.
 

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You guys in the US are fortunate to have had the supra sold as a new model locally in low numbers. However, the supra seems to have a small following compared to other vehciles, thus attracting specific enthusiasts. In a decade from now other high priced cars (Vipers, Z06s, Porsches, M3s, GTRs etc) will have come down in value and only the hard core enthusiasts will be willing to pay any sort of premium for low milage supras, whereas the high milage ones will have devalued enough so that the younger crowd will be able to afford them.

Its already happening here with the large number of high milage good/average (JDM) examples. Right now I am also seeing (at auction) a few '98-99 models for as little as $25K and a few '00-01(!) models at around $35K.

I have had 3 supras in the last 7yrs and in another decade I wouldve moved onto something else. For the young people on this thread... 10yrs is a long time, and you may find that with an increase in income and availability of better performing used cars entering the market, your desire to get a supra may diminish.
 
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