I was wondereing about longevity as well, will this tranny hold up in a daily driver? Does it have the same reliability, if not more, as the stock unit, on a BPU car?
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Tilton clutch Vs SP auto tranny
does anyone have experience with the tilton clutch?....i talked at length with Ara from bullish this weekend at moroso.....must say he was a very cool guy and was willing to help me out with anything i had questions about....also got to see him run a [email protected] is running a tilton 3disc clutch....wanted to know if anyone has it and how it holds up to street driving...
and to SP...your auto tranny has proved to hold power....but how long does it last with street and track driving?...i know ethan had some issues...possibly related to the TC..and he is on some other ideas now...about what to do for a tranny......
thanks for the help..Jeff
and to SP...your auto tranny has proved to hold power....but how long does it last with street and track driving?...i know ethan had some issues...possibly related to the TC..and he is on some other ideas now...about what to do for a tranny......
thanks for the help..Jeff
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He only ran a 9.70 @ 140? heheSC300TURBO said:does anyone have experience with the tilton clutch?....i talked at length with Ara from bullish this weekend at moroso.....must say he was a very cool guy and was willing to help me out with anything i had questions about....also got to see him run a [email protected] is running a tilton 3disc clutch....wanted to know if anyone has it and how it holds up to street driving...
From what I gather the Tilton actually gets better with heat in it?! could be wrong there....as for the SP tranny - Mark C - has put down Several 10sec passes on his with NO problems...
Jay
Tilton is a Carbon-Carbon Clutch, which is a Material used for F1 Brakes, Etc...It's a Race Clutch, but it withstands heat better than any clutch material.
You can Slip this Clutch from 8000+ RPM's and Cut yourself some incredible 60ft Times...paired with a 2-Step and a Shot of Nitrous from the Line, and expect 1.4x 60fts. Well, if you can Drive.
Entry Level for this Clutch is $3500, but it will never Burn out and is only $200\year to rebuild once you pay for it.
It's the clutch that all the Quick Class Racers use who are in the 9s.
This is also the clutch that LeMans uses and also, Top Fuel.
It works better when it is heated, therefore...You can still use it on the street but when you do a nice burnout with a slip...and heat it up...its ready for track action...
Suprdave
You can Slip this Clutch from 8000+ RPM's and Cut yourself some incredible 60ft Times...paired with a 2-Step and a Shot of Nitrous from the Line, and expect 1.4x 60fts. Well, if you can Drive.
Entry Level for this Clutch is $3500, but it will never Burn out and is only $200\year to rebuild once you pay for it.
It's the clutch that all the Quick Class Racers use who are in the 9s.
This is also the clutch that LeMans uses and also, Top Fuel.
It works better when it is heated, therefore...You can still use it on the street but when you do a nice burnout with a slip...and heat it up...its ready for track action...
Suprdave
RPS now has a clutch out similar to the Tilton. It is a Carbon/Carbon unit that is completely badass... It retails for about $2700 or so. I will have mine installed this friday...
your right on with the 1.4x short times....i watched bullish pull several with exactly like your saying it...slipping the clutch at 8k...and he was telling me it was $4500 and the rebuild was $200......is the RPS a tripple disc?.......ill have to give them a call about it....
philly...what all have you had done at bullish?...Jeff
philly...what all have you had done at bullish?...Jeff
RPS??
I also took a great interest in the Tilton clutch and also talked to Ara for quite some time, but the price is a little out there, although I know its worth it. I would love to hear more about the RPS Carbon/Carbon, please keep us informed. What is the power ratings for the RPS?? Thanks! Peace!
I also took a great interest in the Tilton clutch and also talked to Ara for quite some time, but the price is a little out there, although I know its worth it. I would love to hear more about the RPS Carbon/Carbon, please keep us informed. What is the power ratings for the RPS?? Thanks! Peace!
they have been testing it on a very high hp supra in alot of conditions with awsome results...and there looking at a cost of around 2500.......the price is definitly high for the tilton...but definitly looks to work awsome....Jeff
The RPS carbon/carbon is a twin disc clutch...
Imagine this. Put your car in second gear and pull the e-brake up. You are sitting in one place and rev to 7k rpm. Start to slip the clutch until the back end is squating and you are making 1 bar of boost. Sort of like a TQ convertor on an automatic... This was done umpteen times in a very high hp car, the clutch was ragged on for a week and when the clutch was pulled out, it looked as if it were barely used. If you tried this technique with any other clutch (trd twin, etc...) it would be toast after the first time. I will post pics and impressions on saturday...
Imagine this. Put your car in second gear and pull the e-brake up. You are sitting in one place and rev to 7k rpm. Start to slip the clutch until the back end is squating and you are making 1 bar of boost. Sort of like a TQ convertor on an automatic... This was done umpteen times in a very high hp car, the clutch was ragged on for a week and when the clutch was pulled out, it looked as if it were barely used. If you tried this technique with any other clutch (trd twin, etc...) it would be toast after the first time. I will post pics and impressions on saturday...
Was that Bryce's car with the RPS carbon-carbon? Any plans on taking it to the strip to see how it holds up there? I really wonder what kind of times and mph his car is capable of. I still can't get over that video of his dyno.
-Amir
-Amir
Yes, that was in bryce's car. He took the clutch out to see the wear after the testing, he is awaiting a new one.
forcefeed said:Was that Bryce's car with the RPS carbon-carbon? Any plans on taking it to the strip to see how it holds up there? I really wonder what kind of times and mph his car is capable of. I still can't get over that video of his dyno.
-Amir
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When you say he is awaiting a new one, is it because he wore out the old one after testing heavily finally?? I am very interested in this setup if it proves to be worthy. Peace!
When you say he is awaiting a new one, is it because he wore out the old one after testing heavily finally?? I am very interested in this setup if it proves to be worthy. Peace!
Re: ??
No, he pulled the clutch and sent it to Rob Smith to examine it after the abuse. There was virtually no wear and tear on the clutch. Put it this way, this clutch is so good that Saad of AZ is running this unit (not the AZ clutch). Email me privately if you are interested, pics will be up on saturday...
Thanks
No, he pulled the clutch and sent it to Rob Smith to examine it after the abuse. There was virtually no wear and tear on the clutch. Put it this way, this clutch is so good that Saad of AZ is running this unit (not the AZ clutch). Email me privately if you are interested, pics will be up on saturday...
Thanks
n disgii said:When you say he is awaiting a new one, is it because he wore out the old one after testing heavily finally?? I am very interested in this setup if it proves to be worthy. Peace!
huston T...please email me......i have some questions......Jeff
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Sounds SWEET!
What else would i need for install?? Just curious so i can get my cards in order. Right now i am using a SP Engineering pressure plate on stock disk, stock pilot bearing, stock throw out bearing, and stock flywheel. What will I need to go with this clutch, everything??? Should I get a light flywheel with it?? Thanks! Peace!
What else would i need for install?? Just curious so i can get my cards in order. Right now i am using a SP Engineering pressure plate on stock disk, stock pilot bearing, stock throw out bearing, and stock flywheel. What will I need to go with this clutch, everything??? Should I get a light flywheel with it?? Thanks! Peace!
Re: Sounds SWEET!
The clutch comes with a lightweight mueller flywheel. It comes with a pilot bearing, throw out bearing, flywheel bolts, and ring. You basically do not need to buy anything except for the clutch...
The clutch comes with a lightweight mueller flywheel. It comes with a pilot bearing, throw out bearing, flywheel bolts, and ring. You basically do not need to buy anything except for the clutch...
n disgii said:What else would i need for install?? Just curious so i can get my cards in order. Right now i am using a SP Engineering pressure plate on stock disk, stock pilot bearing, stock throw out bearing, and stock flywheel. What will I need to go with this clutch, everything??? Should I get a light flywheel with it?? Thanks! Peace!
is this clutch gonna make all the noise that a normal clutch with lightweight flywheel makes......thats my only draw back...does the tilton make all that noise?....Jeff
YES, all clutches with lightweight flywheels make the tranny rattle...
SC300TURBO said:is this clutch gonna make all the noise that a normal clutch with lightweight flywheel makes......thats my only draw back...does the tilton make all that noise?....Jeff
Question??
Ok, sounds like it comes with everything which is awesome. About the flywheel, when do you hear this flywheel noise and how bad is it?? I have a rattle everytime I turn my car off right now and heard it is normal. Is this the same kind of noise?? How does this affect the durability/reliability of the tranny/drivetrain?? Is the noise just when you take off, or all the time?? And you say that there is NO official price yet or is there?? Thanks! Peace!
Ok, sounds like it comes with everything which is awesome. About the flywheel, when do you hear this flywheel noise and how bad is it?? I have a rattle everytime I turn my car off right now and heard it is normal. Is this the same kind of noise?? How does this affect the durability/reliability of the tranny/drivetrain?? Is the noise just when you take off, or all the time?? And you say that there is NO official price yet or is there?? Thanks! Peace!
The rattle happens at idle... This clutch is easy on the driveline and so it won't effect the durability/reliability of the car.
Retail on the clutch is $2695
Retail on the clutch is $2695
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