Got me a 60mm black face :drool: . Not installed yet :scratch: . Will be in several weeks time though. Worried about the looks of it on the car. Iternet pics do not portray how solid and good looking this piece reallly is. The thing is inside the car at the tuners shop. I was planning on going there today. Tell you the truth I kind of went and had too much alcohol in my system last night at a local pub WHEW!!!!!! Got a late start today but thursdays are slow days. The literature included in it is way more than I've seen while looking elsewhere. If possible I'll go around and get them papers. Maybe we could then discuss this EBC further unless someone else chimes in first.