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yeah and if you want to play, make sure you have plenty of room to run-off. Example: I bought new tires for the mr2 today, but it would have been a shame if the old ones weren't completely corded before getting rid of them, so I went out and was having fun sliding around. I slide around somewhat frequently, but I still looped it 4 or 5 times. IMHO, if you never exceed the limit then you don't really know where it is... And as long as you don't run into any curbs/embankments/cars you're golden 8)
 
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