the reason i sounded upset is for the stated cause. when people pose all kinds of crazy questions about something without knowing much about the subject, they tend to piss off people who do know about a subject and know something that completely contradicts what people say. kind of like the anti-gun nuts who think guns are literally whats killing everybody every day, and not everything else in the world around them.A lot of variables, to be honest. I keep seeing a lot of armchair detectives, (me included) making guesses about bullets. "A 5.56 round is designed to tumble".. At 400 im not sure if, it would pass though one person into the next, I havent done that math and likely wont. If fyrarms, is still around he would likely be able to answer that. I know a 308 would.
One of the newest YouTube videos is a sound expert claiming after analysis their had to be 2 shooters because time variance between echoes in the videos.. plausible, however, we don't know if every round was 55 grain or if he was using different grains of 5.56. Also we don't know when he was using 5.56 vs 308. By the pictures, he had both but we have no other information.
I'm sorry about your buddy and my condolences to his family it's a horrible situation. I hope he can find some resemblance of peace in this madness. I truly hope the best for all y'all.
Kacin, while some of that is valid points I am just asking questions no need for the asshole replies.. like "fuck" I seriously don't know if /b/ is still around won't go there anymore. Only reason I knew /pol/ was is because im an idiot and curiosity got the better of me so I clicked the link.
I'm going shooting this weekend with a bunch of tests and two cellphone camera's.. I hope I don't accidently shoot my phone.. (hehehehe) I'm really interested to answer some of my questions on my own sound wise tho. I'll post results. Maybe via YouTube.
here's why, you didn't say "i don't know what the effective range is, but that seems farther than it would be." you literally skipped a 2 seconds google search and typed "He had bumpstocks firing into a massive crowd at distances beyond the maximum effective range of a 5.56 round.."
so i'm sorry if i came off as a jackass as always, but you should know how the assumptions of truth without evidence can set people off. especially when it comes to things like this.
I hate to speculate on all kinds of things because all that does is drag other people into your speculation, none of us are there to see whats going on. I work in troubleshooting all day every day, and when you do it long enough you look at things differently than other people. You use the socratic method for basically everything.... If this happened, then why did it happen, why did that in turn happen, why did that happen to cause that, where is the root cause. Whenever i deal in getting to the root of issues, i have people around me throwing crazy ideas out that make no sense because they don't understand how hybrid electric systems work or why they work, so the ideas they are throwing out are completely asinine and don't help. In the end you end up with people working a job for 20 years that literally thought something worked a certain way that entire time, but they were wrong for 20 straight years.
what are you going to test exactly? how fast to fire a bumpstock? how far you can shoot a 5.56/.223? before any of this happened there are plenty of example showing how far you can reach with one.