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I hope this is the right place for this...

We all know how rare 95 Hardtops are...

But there is a 1995 White Hardtop with stock twins. The seller advertises low miles and claims it as a turbo car.

I ran the Carfax.... boy oh boy...

This car is a 1995 N/A Hardtop with a GTE swap, and the latest reported mileage on carfax is 164,790.....not the advertised 65k (which could be engine mileage).

Definitely 100% misleading.

VIN is JT2JA81L5S0031345 (so 81L is N/A right?)

How do I report this to ebay???

1995 TOYOTA SUPRA
JT2JA81L5S0031345
LIFTBACK 3 DR
3.0L L6 FI / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
CARFAX Safety & Reliability Report

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The last reported odometer reading was 164,790







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The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX
Year purchased 1995 2005 2005
Type of owner Personal --- ---
Estimated length of ownership 9 yrs. 10 mo. 15 days 1 yr. 8 mo.
Owned in the following states/provinces Alabama Kansas Kansas
Estimated miles driven per year 15,695/yr --- ---
Last reported odometer reading 147,640 164,756 164,790




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1995 TOYOTA SUPRA W-SPORT ROOF
Body Style: Liftback 3 Dr
Engine Type: 3.0L L6 FI
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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 9 record(s) for this 1995 TOYOTA SUPRA (JT2JA81L5S0031345).




Purchased: 1995
Type: Personal
Where: Alabama
Est. miles/year: 15,695/yr
Est. length owned: 8/15/95 - 7/11/05
(9 yrs. 10 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
Not Reported NICB Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer
08/15/1995 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Harvest, AL First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
06/18/1998 54,102 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Fuel system serviced
Brakes serviced
11/03/2004 147,640 Alabama
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Harvest, AL
Title #33352469 Title issued or updated
Duplicate title issued
07/11/2005 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Topeka, KS Vehicle purchase reported





Purchased: 2005
Where: Kansas
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 7/13/05 - 7/28/05
(15 days)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/13/2005 164,756 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Topeka, KS
Title #P0066757 Title or registration issued
New owner reported
Exempt from odometer reporting
07/28/2005 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Topeka, KS Vehicle purchase reported
07/28/2005 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Topeka, KS
Title #P0087216 Title issued or updated
Duplicate title issued
Exempt from odometer reporting





Purchased: 2005
Where: Kansas
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 8/22/05 - present
(1 yr. 8 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
08/22/2005 164,790 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Topeka, KS
Title #P0195617 Title or registration issued
New owner reported
Exempt from odometer reporting
 

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Good call. I saw the same car. Figured it was an NA from the wheels. Plus he said the color was Diamond Pearl White or something like that. The fake hardtop guys never want to say it's a 5MT either.

Ken.
 

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Very nice service. Thanks for the diligence! :bigthumb:
 

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^^^Thanks. Didn't know that.

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dude, i gave him a mean message! haha, it feels good.

Daniel, I noticed your car on ebay?? I thought you sold it already? buyer flaked out??? Hope you kept the deposit!
 

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Just noticed the repost, sorry about that. I was just shocked that someone was trying to pull that.

dude, i gave him a mean message! haha, it feels good.

Daniel, I noticed your car on ebay?? I thought you sold it already? buyer flaked out??? Hope you kept the deposit!
Rich,

The original buyer made a deposit based on a sure fire cash buyer on his own Supra. Unfortunately that guy flaked on him, but he was up front with me on the status to begin with and is a 100% respectable guy.

I really want to keep this thing, so I'm going to cross my fingers and see if Hagerty will cover the car and I for a reasonable price (if I cant get my asking price).

-Daniel
 

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I ran the Carfax.... boy oh boy...

This car is a 1995 N/A Hardtop with a GTE swap, and the latest reported mileage on carfax is 164,790.....not the advertised 65k (which could be engine mileage).


That pic is from his auction. He must of swaped odometers. Odometer fraud is a felony in kansas.
 

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How stupid do people have to be to bid on cars like these and not run carfax?
I agree but you'd be surprised how dumb some people are in this world, especially the ones that fall for the nigerian ebay scams. Oh...you're gonna send me a check for $4k more than my car and you want me to send you back the extra $4k and ship you my car...okay...sounds good! :ugh2:
 

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Most supra sellers are very very dishonest people this is not surprising at all. I remember one white car on ebay that the seller listed as perfect flawless and mint. Yet the carfax reported a front impact with a tree. When asked the seller said it was just a minor accident. bwhahahahah I have never seen a minor front impact with a tree. But that's supra seller business model. Polish a turd and expect top dollar.


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How stupid do people have to be to bid on cars like these and not run carfax?

Sometimes carfax is not enough cars can be wrecked and have a clean carfax. that's when a good eye for paint work tape lines and a trusty paint meter come into play. I cant tell you how many supras i went to look at before i got mine that were advertised as clean no accidents yet when i went to see them they had paint work everywhere. a fresh coat of paint is one thing but bondo everywhere is a whole different story. Always assume someone selling a car is dishonest until you can prove otherwise.


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Sometimes carfax is not enough cars can be wrecked and have a clean carfax.
Cheers,
Especially when the owner pockets the insurance money, and gets the car fixed for cheap, somewhere else.
 

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Sometimes carfax is not enough cars can be wrecked and have a clean carfax. that's when a good eye for paint work tape lines and a trusty paint meter come into play. I cant tell you how many supras i went to look at before i got mine that were advertised as clean no accidents yet when i went to see them they had paint work everywhere. a fresh coat of paint is one thing but bondo everywhere is a whole different story. Always assume someone selling a car is dishonest until you can prove otherwise.


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Care to elaborate on what a paint meter is and how to spot tape lines? I can usually tell from looking at a car with polarized glasses but it'd always be nice to learn something new.
 
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