Unless the stock lines are damaged, the better pedal feel that people experience after installing braided lines is due to the good bleeding of the system that is required after opening it to install the lines. Braided lines DO NOT swell any less than a good condition "rubber" line. This comes from both my own experience, but perhaps more importantly from an engineer who works at Performance Friction in the department where they design and build the brakes for Nextel Cup cars and other race cars. He says that the ONLY "performance" advantage of braided lines is that they are a bit more resistant to being torn loose by flying road debris, etc., but that they do not swell any less or cause any more of a "spongy" pedal than regular lines in good condition.Hua said:You could also do braided lines for better pedal feel.
i felt a much better pedal feel after installing my braided lines and i had bled my system with new fluid with the stock lines couple months ago. of course this is just my personal experience..Boost Junkie said:Unless the stock lines are damaged, the better pedal feel that people experience after installing braided lines is due to the good bleeding of the system that is required after opening it to install the lines. Braided lines DO NOT swell any less than a good condition "rubber" line. This comes from both my own experience, but perhaps more importantly from an engineer who works at Performance Friction in the department where they design and build the brakes for Nextel Cup cars and other race cars. He says that the ONLY "performance" advantage of braided lines is that they are a bit more resistant to being torn loose by flying road debris, etc., but that they do not swell any less or cause any more of a "spongy" pedal than regular lines in good condition.
i don't see how the stock pads or not would affect your parking brake because supras use an internal parking brake that looks like a drum brake assembly inside the rotor.twistedmethod333 said:This is one of the areas where results seem to vary ALOT from car to car. When I first got my car I believe it had Hawk HPS pads on it, they squeaked but they bit in really well and stayed with it the whole time.
Im back on stock pads now and I hate them. The most unusuall part is the change in the parking brake. With the aftermarket pads it was hard to pull the brake up all the way, and it locked up the wheels all the way. Now with the OEM pads, its easy as hell to pull the brake up all the way, and it doesnt lock the rears up NEAR as much.
I had the rotors machined at the same time, so this may have something to do with it. Anyone have an idea?
Ditto.Hua said:If your stock rotors are within the runout spec, I would just resurface them and put new Hawk HPS pads on them. You really can't beat the stock braking system, short of a full $3k big brake Brembo or StopTech upgrade. You could also do braided lines for better pedal feel.
DITTO. tried many others and always went back to stock. cant beat the surface area of the stockers. brembo sports arent bad. stay away from the hawk pads.KLH2004a said:A lot of people say just go with OEM Toyota rotors, and try the TRD pads.
drift tt 23 said:DITTO. tried many others and always went back to stock. cant beat the surface area of the stockers. brembo sports arent bad. stay away from the hawk pads.
i would use the brembo sports with goodridge lines and stock pads with the brembo 5.1 fluid.
cord4530 said:The statement about rubber lines not having more flex (ballooning) than braided isn't necessarily correct. On an old 4x4 trail rig I built I ended up having to run two front hoses that were ~24" long. Initially I ran some 12" hoses, but had to limit articulation while waiting for the longer hoses. When I put the long hoses on, the pedal was VERY squishy.